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BREAKING MINE NEWS: 12 DEAD 1 CRITICAL
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orangemonster2k1
Guest
From WAJR Radio-Morgantown: Survivor is reported as 26 or 27 year old Randal McCloy, husband and father of 2. He was taken to St. Joesph Hospital in Buckhannon, WV and was soon to be transfered to West Virginia University/Ruby Memorial in Morgantown, WV...a Level 1 Trauma Center.
O
orangemonster2k1
Guest
From WAJR Radio-Morgantown: Mr McCloy is now in "Serious Condition" at West Virginia University/Ruby Memorial Hospital in Morgantown, WV. ABCRadio and West Virginia MetroNews are reporting that he was on a ventilator before he left St. Joesph Hospital in Buckhannon, WV.
Live Link for WAJR Radio: http://www.wajr.com/images/?site=18&id=2408&name=2408&maxx=150<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by orangemonster2k1 on 01/04/06 11:40 AM.</FONT></P>
Live Link for WAJR Radio: http://www.wajr.com/images/?site=18&id=2408&name=2408&maxx=150<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by orangemonster2k1 on 01/04/06 11:40 AM.</FONT></P>
CNN Coverage 'Best' on Mining Accident
CNN turns out to have had the best coverage of the mining accident in both good ways and bad. They were the first to misreport the miners apparently being found alive (which everyone was saying last night) and they were also the first to report they were not, thanks to a relationship Anderson Cooper established with a local family who dashed from the church to report to Cooper that earlier reports were wrong. Dr. Sanjay Gupta also made a HUGE difference in the quality of medical reporting that nobody else came close to.
MSNBC fell on its face several times last night missing important aspects of the story - let Rita "Sucrets" Cosby cover the missing white women and people disappearing on cruise ships - MSNBC dropped the ball letting her be the star of the show. Fox's coverage relied way too much on anchor people and an overworked Bill Hemmer. When the report came through that the miners were actually not alive, Fox was last to cover it.
Fox decided the best thing they could do to make a bad situation worse was to deploy Geraldo. Haven't the families suffered enough?
After we learned the initial reports were wrong, you could watch Anderson Cooper's blood pressure growing as he grew increasingly angry over the earlier incorrect reports. It wasn't as heated as his Katrina outrage, but came close to the level of Frank Reynolds snapping on-air about misreporting over James Brady back during the Reagan shooting in the early 1980s.
By 4am you were in Spin Cycle as company officials came out and gave an obviously carefully constructed line on what went wrong (with the CEOs lawyer carefully posed behind him). The media had not yet formed the pack attack mentality that will likely occur this morning, so a lot of the questions asked were softball. The governor seemed stunned and forgiving in public appearances, but I have a feeling there will be butt covering and behind the scenes dagger fights with company officials over the ultimate blame for this debacle. The media will blame the company and governor for jumping on air with any news tidbit they can find instead of considering whether or not it's responsible for any of this. Family members were certainly including the media in the blame circle.
All of this is simply outrageous for the poor family members who were forced to ride this circus emotional roller coaster. Heads should roll all over the place.
CNN turns out to have had the best coverage of the mining accident in both good ways and bad. They were the first to misreport the miners apparently being found alive (which everyone was saying last night) and they were also the first to report they were not, thanks to a relationship Anderson Cooper established with a local family who dashed from the church to report to Cooper that earlier reports were wrong. Dr. Sanjay Gupta also made a HUGE difference in the quality of medical reporting that nobody else came close to.
MSNBC fell on its face several times last night missing important aspects of the story - let Rita "Sucrets" Cosby cover the missing white women and people disappearing on cruise ships - MSNBC dropped the ball letting her be the star of the show. Fox's coverage relied way too much on anchor people and an overworked Bill Hemmer. When the report came through that the miners were actually not alive, Fox was last to cover it.
Fox decided the best thing they could do to make a bad situation worse was to deploy Geraldo. Haven't the families suffered enough?
After we learned the initial reports were wrong, you could watch Anderson Cooper's blood pressure growing as he grew increasingly angry over the earlier incorrect reports. It wasn't as heated as his Katrina outrage, but came close to the level of Frank Reynolds snapping on-air about misreporting over James Brady back during the Reagan shooting in the early 1980s.
By 4am you were in Spin Cycle as company officials came out and gave an obviously carefully constructed line on what went wrong (with the CEOs lawyer carefully posed behind him). The media had not yet formed the pack attack mentality that will likely occur this morning, so a lot of the questions asked were softball. The governor seemed stunned and forgiving in public appearances, but I have a feeling there will be butt covering and behind the scenes dagger fights with company officials over the ultimate blame for this debacle. The media will blame the company and governor for jumping on air with any news tidbit they can find instead of considering whether or not it's responsible for any of this. Family members were certainly including the media in the blame circle.
All of this is simply outrageous for the poor family members who were forced to ride this circus emotional roller coaster. Heads should roll all over the place.
C
ClearThinker
Guest
Re: CNN Coverage 'Best' on Mining Accident
> > CNN turns out to have had the best coverage of the mining
> > accident in both good ways and bad. They were the first
> to
> > misreport the miners apparently being found alive (which
> > everyone was saying last night) and they were also the
> first
> > to report they were not, thanks to a relationship Anderson
>
> > Cooper established with a local family who dashed from the
>
> > church to report to Cooper that earlier reports were
> wrong.
> > Dr. Sanjay Gupta also made a HUGE difference in the
> quality
> > of medical reporting that nobody else came close to.
> >
> > MSNBC fell on its face several times last night missing
> > important aspects of the story - let Rita "Sucrets" Cosby
> > cover the missing white women and people disappearing on
> > cruise ships - MSNBC dropped the ball letting her be the
> > star of the show. Fox's coverage relied way too much on
> > anchor people and an overworked Bill Hemmer. When the
> > report came through that the miners were actually not
> alive,
> > Fox was last to cover it.
> >
> > Fox decided the best thing they could do to make a bad
> > situation worse was to deploy Geraldo. Haven't the
> families
> > suffered enough?
> >
> > After we learned the initial reports were wrong, you could
>
> > watch Anderson Cooper's blood pressure growing as he grew
> > increasingly angry over the earlier incorrect reports. It
>
> > wasn't as heated as his Katrina outrage, but came close to
>
> > the level of Frank Reynolds snapping on-air about
> > misreporting over James Brady back during the Reagan
> > shooting in the early 1980s.
> >
> > By 4am you were in Spin Cycle as company officials came
> out
> > and gave an obviously carefully constructed line on what
> > went wrong (with the CEOs lawyer carefully posed behind
> > him). The media had not yet formed the pack attack
> > mentality that will likely occur this morning, so a lot of
>
> > the questions asked were softball. The governor seemed
> > stunned and forgiving in public appearances, but I have a
> > feeling there will be butt covering and behind the scenes
> > dagger fights with company officials over the ultimate
> blame
> > for this debacle. The media will blame the company and
> > governor for jumping on air with any news tidbit they can
> > find instead of considering whether or not it's
> responsible
> > for any of this. Family members were certainly including
> > the media in the blame circle.
> >
> > All of this is simply outrageous for the poor family
> members
> > who were forced to ride this circus emotional roller
> > coaster. Heads should roll all over the place.
> >
> I thought I heard that the son of one of the victims gave
> the governor a HUGE piece of his mind over this tragedy;
> also, some of the local people were attacking the media
> (figuratively, not literally) for even being there. That
> mine has been cited for something like 46 safety violations,
>
> so if anybody's going to play the blame game they should
> start with the owners. In the meantime, my sympathies go
> out to the victims' families, especially in light of the
> emotional rollercoaster they had to endure.
>
Anyone seen Mike Brown nearby? This seems like a FEMA operation.
> > CNN turns out to have had the best coverage of the mining
> > accident in both good ways and bad. They were the first
> to
> > misreport the miners apparently being found alive (which
> > everyone was saying last night) and they were also the
> first
> > to report they were not, thanks to a relationship Anderson
>
> > Cooper established with a local family who dashed from the
>
> > church to report to Cooper that earlier reports were
> wrong.
> > Dr. Sanjay Gupta also made a HUGE difference in the
> quality
> > of medical reporting that nobody else came close to.
> >
> > MSNBC fell on its face several times last night missing
> > important aspects of the story - let Rita "Sucrets" Cosby
> > cover the missing white women and people disappearing on
> > cruise ships - MSNBC dropped the ball letting her be the
> > star of the show. Fox's coverage relied way too much on
> > anchor people and an overworked Bill Hemmer. When the
> > report came through that the miners were actually not
> alive,
> > Fox was last to cover it.
> >
> > Fox decided the best thing they could do to make a bad
> > situation worse was to deploy Geraldo. Haven't the
> families
> > suffered enough?
> >
> > After we learned the initial reports were wrong, you could
>
> > watch Anderson Cooper's blood pressure growing as he grew
> > increasingly angry over the earlier incorrect reports. It
>
> > wasn't as heated as his Katrina outrage, but came close to
>
> > the level of Frank Reynolds snapping on-air about
> > misreporting over James Brady back during the Reagan
> > shooting in the early 1980s.
> >
> > By 4am you were in Spin Cycle as company officials came
> out
> > and gave an obviously carefully constructed line on what
> > went wrong (with the CEOs lawyer carefully posed behind
> > him). The media had not yet formed the pack attack
> > mentality that will likely occur this morning, so a lot of
>
> > the questions asked were softball. The governor seemed
> > stunned and forgiving in public appearances, but I have a
> > feeling there will be butt covering and behind the scenes
> > dagger fights with company officials over the ultimate
> blame
> > for this debacle. The media will blame the company and
> > governor for jumping on air with any news tidbit they can
> > find instead of considering whether or not it's
> responsible
> > for any of this. Family members were certainly including
> > the media in the blame circle.
> >
> > All of this is simply outrageous for the poor family
> members
> > who were forced to ride this circus emotional roller
> > coaster. Heads should roll all over the place.
> >
> I thought I heard that the son of one of the victims gave
> the governor a HUGE piece of his mind over this tragedy;
> also, some of the local people were attacking the media
> (figuratively, not literally) for even being there. That
> mine has been cited for something like 46 safety violations,
>
> so if anybody's going to play the blame game they should
> start with the owners. In the meantime, my sympathies go
> out to the victims' families, especially in light of the
> emotional rollercoaster they had to endure.
>
Anyone seen Mike Brown nearby? This seems like a FEMA operation.
K
KMRichards
Guest
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While this is a tragic story, it does NOT belong on this board.
I thank those who have tried to turn this thread to something on-topic, which is how the television networks have covered the story.
Right now, for a variety of reasons, Radio-Info is running slowly. Off-topic postings (and please note that this story is being discussed on the Off The Air board, where it should be) only overload the database.
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orangemonster2k1
Guest
Re: MODERATOR NOTE!
I did not realize that there was an Off The Air board....I just post were a post was already begun with information provided via a Morgantown radio station (WAJR) and CNN.
This was in no way a "cross post" nor was I trying to.
Tybois Uphold
I did not realize that there was an Off The Air board....I just post were a post was already begun with information provided via a Morgantown radio station (WAJR) and CNN.
This was in no way a "cross post" nor was I trying to.
Tybois Uphold
K
KMRichards
Guest
Re: MODERATOR NOTE!
> I did not realize that there was an Off The Air board....I
> just post were a post was already begun with information
> provided via a Morgantown radio station (WAJR) and CNN.
You are by no means to blame for starting the thread. But in order for it to be on-topic for this board, the discussion needs to be about how television is covering the story, rather than about the story itself.
> This was in no way a "cross post" nor was I trying to.
"FMFreq" is the person guilty of the crossposting and the starting of an off-topic thread. Not you.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> I did not realize that there was an Off The Air board....I
> just post were a post was already begun with information
> provided via a Morgantown radio station (WAJR) and CNN.
You are by no means to blame for starting the thread. But in order for it to be on-topic for this board, the discussion needs to be about how television is covering the story, rather than about the story itself.
> This was in no way a "cross post" nor was I trying to.
"FMFreq" is the person guilty of the crossposting and the starting of an off-topic thread. Not you.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
E
EARCANDY
Guest
Re: CNN Coverage 'Best' on Mining Accident
> CNN turns out to have had the best coverage of the mining
> accident in both good ways and bad. They were the first to
> misreport the miners apparently being found alive (which
> everyone was saying last night) and they were also the first
> to report they were not, thanks to a relationship Anderson
> Cooper established with a local family who dashed from the
> church to report to Cooper that earlier reports were wrong.
CNN's coverage was outstanding - they continually had something
interesting going on - not just repetition and they had a lot of
time to fill in those hours of waiting for the miners to make
it to the church. It was heartwrenching to hear of the 'miscommunication'
and to see the devastation in Anderson Cooper's face.
> Dr. Sanjay Gupta also made a HUGE difference in the quality
> of medical reporting that nobody else came close to.
>
This guy was phenominal!! Interestingly, he tried not to show his total
surprise upon hearing the miners would be brought to the church. He did
display some surprise and even spoke of it lightly, but his surprise made
me wonder. I figured that was why the wait was so long after the rescue,
that they had a triage at the mine entry.
But Dr. Gupta really shed light in alot of areas as he has contined to do
tonight with the Prime Minister of Israel.
> Fox decided the best thing they could do to make a bad
> situation worse was to deploy Geraldo. Haven't the families
> suffered enough?
I saw on Geraldo tonight where it looked like he was even in the church at
one point! How does he get into some of these places that the rest of the
media can't get to?
> CNN turns out to have had the best coverage of the mining
> accident in both good ways and bad. They were the first to
> misreport the miners apparently being found alive (which
> everyone was saying last night) and they were also the first
> to report they were not, thanks to a relationship Anderson
> Cooper established with a local family who dashed from the
> church to report to Cooper that earlier reports were wrong.
CNN's coverage was outstanding - they continually had something
interesting going on - not just repetition and they had a lot of
time to fill in those hours of waiting for the miners to make
it to the church. It was heartwrenching to hear of the 'miscommunication'
and to see the devastation in Anderson Cooper's face.
> Dr. Sanjay Gupta also made a HUGE difference in the quality
> of medical reporting that nobody else came close to.
>
This guy was phenominal!! Interestingly, he tried not to show his total
surprise upon hearing the miners would be brought to the church. He did
display some surprise and even spoke of it lightly, but his surprise made
me wonder. I figured that was why the wait was so long after the rescue,
that they had a triage at the mine entry.
But Dr. Gupta really shed light in alot of areas as he has contined to do
tonight with the Prime Minister of Israel.
> Fox decided the best thing they could do to make a bad
> situation worse was to deploy Geraldo. Haven't the families
> suffered enough?
I saw on Geraldo tonight where it looked like he was even in the church at
one point! How does he get into some of these places that the rest of the
media can't get to?
Re: CNN Coverage 'Best' on Mining Accident
> CNN turns out to have had the best coverage of the mining
> accident in both good ways and bad. They were the first to
> misreport the miners apparently being found alive (which
> everyone was saying last night) and they were also the first
> to report they were not, thanks to a relationship Anderson
> Cooper established with a local family who dashed from the
> church to report to Cooper that earlier reports were wrong.
> Dr. Sanjay Gupta also made a HUGE difference in the quality
> of medical reporting that nobody else came close to.
>
> MSNBC fell on its face several times last night missing
> important aspects of the story - let Rita "Sucrets" Cosby
> cover the missing white women and people disappearing on
> cruise ships - MSNBC dropped the ball letting her be the
> star of the show. Fox's coverage relied way too much on
> anchor people and an overworked Bill Hemmer. When the
> report came through that the miners were actually not alive,
> Fox was last to cover it.
>
> Fox decided the best thing they could do to make a bad
> situation worse was to deploy Geraldo. Haven't the families
> suffered enough?
>
> After we learned the initial reports were wrong, you could
> watch Anderson Cooper's blood pressure growing as he grew
> increasingly angry over the earlier incorrect reports. It
> wasn't as heated as his Katrina outrage, but came close to
> the level of Frank Reynolds snapping on-air about
> misreporting over James Brady back during the Reagan
> shooting in the early 1980s.
>
> By 4am you were in Spin Cycle as company officials came out
> and gave an obviously carefully constructed line on what
> went wrong (with the CEOs lawyer carefully posed behind
> him). The media had not yet formed the pack attack
> mentality that will likely occur this morning, so a lot of
> the questions asked were softball. The governor seemed
> stunned and forgiving in public appearances, but I have a
> feeling there will be butt covering and behind the scenes
> dagger fights with company officials over the ultimate blame
> for this debacle. The media will blame the company and
> governor for jumping on air with any news tidbit they can
> find instead of considering whether or not it's responsible
> for any of this. Family members were certainly including
> the media in the blame circle.
>
> All of this is simply outrageous for the poor family members
> who were forced to ride this circus emotional roller
> coaster. Heads should roll all over the place.
>
Somebody please correct me if I missed something in the chain of events after the miners were reported alive and for the few hours following. During all the on-site anchor commentary there was only one ambulance shown and talked about as it passed the camera positions and moving toward the mine. My first question to myself was, "Twelve miners obviously needing some sort of medical attention, one ambulance. Why aren't there more?" Then it occurred to me that perhaps the other ambulances, of which there turned out apparently to be none, could have taken another route, although approches to a mine usually aren't served by a complex road or highway system. Perhaps I missed commentary and video on movement of any other ambulances and medical personnel while away from the television for a minute or so every now and then. Or could a lone ambulance going to and leaving the mine been a first clue that something still was seriously wrong? IIRC, none of the reporters mentioned the anomaly, but then maybe I just missed it if they did talk about it.
> CNN turns out to have had the best coverage of the mining
> accident in both good ways and bad. They were the first to
> misreport the miners apparently being found alive (which
> everyone was saying last night) and they were also the first
> to report they were not, thanks to a relationship Anderson
> Cooper established with a local family who dashed from the
> church to report to Cooper that earlier reports were wrong.
> Dr. Sanjay Gupta also made a HUGE difference in the quality
> of medical reporting that nobody else came close to.
>
> MSNBC fell on its face several times last night missing
> important aspects of the story - let Rita "Sucrets" Cosby
> cover the missing white women and people disappearing on
> cruise ships - MSNBC dropped the ball letting her be the
> star of the show. Fox's coverage relied way too much on
> anchor people and an overworked Bill Hemmer. When the
> report came through that the miners were actually not alive,
> Fox was last to cover it.
>
> Fox decided the best thing they could do to make a bad
> situation worse was to deploy Geraldo. Haven't the families
> suffered enough?
>
> After we learned the initial reports were wrong, you could
> watch Anderson Cooper's blood pressure growing as he grew
> increasingly angry over the earlier incorrect reports. It
> wasn't as heated as his Katrina outrage, but came close to
> the level of Frank Reynolds snapping on-air about
> misreporting over James Brady back during the Reagan
> shooting in the early 1980s.
>
> By 4am you were in Spin Cycle as company officials came out
> and gave an obviously carefully constructed line on what
> went wrong (with the CEOs lawyer carefully posed behind
> him). The media had not yet formed the pack attack
> mentality that will likely occur this morning, so a lot of
> the questions asked were softball. The governor seemed
> stunned and forgiving in public appearances, but I have a
> feeling there will be butt covering and behind the scenes
> dagger fights with company officials over the ultimate blame
> for this debacle. The media will blame the company and
> governor for jumping on air with any news tidbit they can
> find instead of considering whether or not it's responsible
> for any of this. Family members were certainly including
> the media in the blame circle.
>
> All of this is simply outrageous for the poor family members
> who were forced to ride this circus emotional roller
> coaster. Heads should roll all over the place.
>
Somebody please correct me if I missed something in the chain of events after the miners were reported alive and for the few hours following. During all the on-site anchor commentary there was only one ambulance shown and talked about as it passed the camera positions and moving toward the mine. My first question to myself was, "Twelve miners obviously needing some sort of medical attention, one ambulance. Why aren't there more?" Then it occurred to me that perhaps the other ambulances, of which there turned out apparently to be none, could have taken another route, although approches to a mine usually aren't served by a complex road or highway system. Perhaps I missed commentary and video on movement of any other ambulances and medical personnel while away from the television for a minute or so every now and then. Or could a lone ambulance going to and leaving the mine been a first clue that something still was seriously wrong? IIRC, none of the reporters mentioned the anomaly, but then maybe I just missed it if they did talk about it.
E
EARCANDY
Guest
Re: CNN Coverage 'Best' on Mining Accident
> >
> Somebody please correct me if I missed something in the
> chain of events after the miners were reported alive and for
> the few hours following. During all the on-site anchor
> commentary there was only one ambulance shown and talked
> about as it passed the camera positions and moving toward
> the mine. My first question to myself was, "Twelve miners
> obviously needing some sort of medical attention, one
> ambulance. Why aren't there more?" Then it occurred to me
> that perhaps the other ambulances, of which there turned out
> apparently to be none, could have taken another route,
> although approches to a mine usually aren't served by a
> complex road or highway system. Perhaps I missed commentary
> and video on movement of any other ambulances and medical
> personnel while away from the television for a minute or so
> every now and then. Or could a lone ambulance going to and
> leaving the mine been a first clue that something still was
> seriously wrong? IIRC, none of the reporters mentioned the
> anomaly, but then maybe I just missed it if they did talk
> about it.
>
CNN did report on the ambulances arriving at the mine. I do not
remember the total number, but there were alot and they did seem
to come in one by one. On some of the coverage you can see the
various ambulances in the background.
When Anderson Cooper was told of the news (that there was only 1
survivor) he even points out the line of ambulances that they believed
were carrying the survivors to the church. When they saw the ambulances
lining up, they were wondering if they were finally going to see the
survivors but the ambulances held back while the govenor and mine owners
went into the church to deliver the news.
> >
> Somebody please correct me if I missed something in the
> chain of events after the miners were reported alive and for
> the few hours following. During all the on-site anchor
> commentary there was only one ambulance shown and talked
> about as it passed the camera positions and moving toward
> the mine. My first question to myself was, "Twelve miners
> obviously needing some sort of medical attention, one
> ambulance. Why aren't there more?" Then it occurred to me
> that perhaps the other ambulances, of which there turned out
> apparently to be none, could have taken another route,
> although approches to a mine usually aren't served by a
> complex road or highway system. Perhaps I missed commentary
> and video on movement of any other ambulances and medical
> personnel while away from the television for a minute or so
> every now and then. Or could a lone ambulance going to and
> leaving the mine been a first clue that something still was
> seriously wrong? IIRC, none of the reporters mentioned the
> anomaly, but then maybe I just missed it if they did talk
> about it.
>
CNN did report on the ambulances arriving at the mine. I do not
remember the total number, but there were alot and they did seem
to come in one by one. On some of the coverage you can see the
various ambulances in the background.
When Anderson Cooper was told of the news (that there was only 1
survivor) he even points out the line of ambulances that they believed
were carrying the survivors to the church. When they saw the ambulances
lining up, they were wondering if they were finally going to see the
survivors but the ambulances held back while the govenor and mine owners
went into the church to deliver the news.
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