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Breaking News at WXNT!!

ZV said:
If you actually listened to their product, you'd realize their news is often days ahead of WIBC. They break more stories than IBC and do a much better job of getting the info out there.

Of course, perception is reality, and WIBC does have the image of being the news leader... but WXNT is consistently putting out a much better news product than them, and with a tiny little staff to boot.

Too bad people like you will never give them the credit.

The only thing I ever hear on WXNT, in terms of breaking news, is political stories. That's all well and good, but the majority of the population doesn't care about that stuff.

Maybe Garrison and Wilson are annoying, but I'd bet money the next time a storm comes to Indy, you will know where it is a lot faster by listening to WIBC than listening to WXNT.
 
It's not just a marketing problem. Their syndication is fine. Abdul may work hard at local political stories too, but when it comes to breaking local news, even WXNT listeners are likely to seek other sources. A radio station that allows news, traffic and/or weather reports that are hours or even weeks old to air has limited credibility. Perhaps that hasn't happened in the last couple of months, but credibility takes a while to earn. Abdul may be a great guy, but how many Hoosiers will identify with an out of state guy who comes across as having a large ego (and the name Abdul) over a jovial self-depreciating local guy named Dave or Jeff. Their content is apples and oranges, but style can be more important than substance. It's great to have WXNT here. They provide some very good shows. They're better than 93.9. They are not a credible local news source when it matters though.
 
it'd be very easy for xnt to simply hire a RADIO guy (capable of pacing a talk show) to talk local issues, take calls, etc for afternoon drive. ANY alternative to ibc pm drive would be welcomed. give a little better traffic than just the 30-second blur with 90-second sponsorship, no blatant political leaning, and give more than comedians - I'd listen!

It'd be nice to hear about more than the personal lives of the broadcasters all the way home.
 
WXNT isn't even in the same league with WIBC. Anyone who says WXNT beats WIBC in ANYTHING must surely work there. Heritage calls, experienced professional staff, seemingly unlimited revenue potential, dominant signal, ratings success... need I go on? It was good that WXNT entered the fray, considering that the market was underserved in News/Talk... and great radio stations need competition, weak or not, to keep them on their toes... but now that WFT has launched, I'm not sure 'XNT can survive. Revenue-wise, it must have been difficult being the second-ranked news-talker in town... but now a distant third...? I have to say Abdul gives it everything he can... and I like having a local-origination show in the timeslot... but he's not armed to compete in this battle.
 
indplsradio said:
Anyone who says WXNT beats WIBC in ANYTHING must surely work there.

Hmm...perhaps anyone that calls WIBC a great station must surely work there. I would call WIBC a good station, but their local talk content is less than compelling. Relying on heritage calls and a dominant signal doesn't make you a great station, you have to do great things with those resources. When WIBC uses its numerous advantages to make consistent runs at the #1 ranking in the market or makes an effort to skew younger (away from its rapidly dying 65+ audience) then maybe calling them a great station would be accurate.

Now as far as WFT, get real, how is this station a clear second in the news/talk competition in the market? You just praised WIBC for local content, heritage, extensive news and weather coverage, guess what? WFT has NONE of those things. Where's the logic there? WXNT doesn't have the resources of WIBC, that is true, but come on, if you really listen to all three of these stations you have to admit that even "resource starved" WXNT does a better job of covering news and weather and providing local content than WFT.
 
No question, WIBC's lineup qualifies them for nothing more than a "good" label... that might be pushing it a little for some of their programming... "great" is their staying power and revenue.

I should have been a little clearer when I opined that WFT has jumped into second place in the news/talk wars... I was referring only to revenue. No way does 'XNT find a way to bill what WFT can. WFT has also built a nice show lineup, and taking so many of them from 'XNT has to be considered a competitive slam.

No question, 'XNT's local newscasts beats WFT's by many measures. I like what Cumulus does with Channel 13, but it is certainly a more compact newscast than 'XNT's. I think "breaking news" will also make it to WFT, given WTHR's resources... we'll see.

The term "resource starved" sums it up, as it relates to WXNT. The only reason they haven't started to catch up with WIBC is because of the numerous obvious challenges. It's not for lack of effort on the part of the rank and file at Entercom... they clearly love what they do... they just don't have the advantages of their counterparts at WIBC. Personally, I wish the playing field WERE equal... it would be a great battle, and news-talk fans would be the winners.
 
indplsradio said:
WFT has also built a nice show lineup, and taking so many of them from 'XNT has to be considered a competitive slam.

Or, a complete lack of originality... all depends on how you look at it. :D
 
You want WXNT to be a better news source, with a bigger news room, but you love that Channel 13 does the news for WFT?

You say the strength of WXNT is their political coverage and talk, but they do too much of it? You'd like more weather, traffic and AP copy?

No one really has big complaints about WXNT. Their biggest complaint is that a station that has been on air for 5 years can't compete with an AM station that has been on air for 30, and has the Pacers and now the Colts! Why do you think they have endless resources and capital? It isn't their brilliant programming and weather updates. It's the fact that they get to put their logo all over the most visible spots in Indy, our sports venues. In fact, everytime WIBC and WFT are mentioned on this board, it goes like this: W--- is great, BUT...

Here are some examples of news breaking on WXNT this week:

- During the car chase earlier this week, less than a minute after it broke on the FIRST local TV station, we had the audio feed on air, with traffic updates so motorists could stay as far away from the routes as possible. WFT had Mancow. I am not sure what WIBC ran, but it was the top of the hour, so maybe weather? (How many cars have a temperature gauge in their car now?)

- Last Friday Afternoon, we reported, accurately, the timeline of the two students, how the administration, and the fate of all the students involved. WFT aired Sporting News Radio. WIBC probably was doing a traffic update (Which WXNT does 4 times an hour) I am not sure whom Dave was interviewing.

Breaking news is not how fast you can put AP copy on the air... sometimes it means having the courage to report on things not yet confirmed by a talking head. We are staffed 24 hours a day with board ops who are extremely bright and passionate about the station, the product, and the listener. From 6 am to 6 pm, we have the two best news anchors in town. With today's technology, you don't need a staff of 14 to cover a city the size of Indy. A local news outfit (which almost every station uses for traffic and local news) covers the city with essentially one reporter.

And the Warren Township talking head? We aired her unedited comments to the public the next day to let the public hear her words, and then let the audience comment on them. We give them the freedom to think for themselves, and the freedom to comment. We don't always choose the soundbite they need to hear, and sometimes we have the courage to discuss a topic most in the city won't. I'd much rather be at home right now, watching American Idol for my show prep. Instead, I am at work, 9 hours before I have to be back, working my bu__ off to bring original news stories and topics to the masses putting on their make-up and ties in the morning.

Frankly, WXNT respects the audience enough to not fill their ears with things that don't really matter. One poster said that Abdul is self-absorbed. Truth be told, Abdul wakes up everyday asking how to inform his listeners on the subjects that truly effect their lives. Every segment is designed with that paradigm in mind. I don't think any other local talk program can claim that.

Every News/Talk station wishes they had the resources that WIBC has. There are very few radio stations in the country that do have a newsroom of their size. Modern radio of any format follows one principle: Make the most out of the least. Five years from now, WFT will have the resources of WXNT. Five years from now, WXNT will be bigger, and more people will know about Abdul. Their ratings will be higher. Their revenue streams will be larger.

I will personally miss Andrew Lee. He did a lot for myself, and he changed this station for the better. Two years ago on this board, WXNT was getting murdered for having bad programming, horrible automation, newscasts and weather reports that had run the previous day, a new morning show host with PSAs running to fill the commercial breaks, board-ops who were less reliable then the automation, and no credibility in political and news gathering services. Two years later, you, radio-info board poster, cannot say these things about WXNT. Abdul and Andrew have changed all of these.

No one can dispute that WXNT has great, unique content. Andrew has built a great foundation at WXNT, and Entercom has taken the bittersweet opportunity to promote within their ranks some talented, passionate people. Within 5 years, WXNT will rival WIBC in town for Newstalk listeners.

You have to have patience, and you have to work the under station under the table.
 
WIBC has good ratings because old people have nothing better to do then fill out arbitrary diaries. Plus it's something to do during Dave the King Wilson's awesome show.
 
TalkRadioGeek said:
WIBC has good ratings because old people have nothing better to do then fill out arbitrary diaries.
To old. They have there kids fill them out.
 
jezus1stjinglepimp said:
cspangle said:
Within 5 years, WXNT will rival WIBC in town for Newstalk listeners.
Tasty Kool-aid

Within 5 years, WXNT will either have been donated to a church by it's then owner or will be a "cash and carry" religious format.
 
cspangle said:
- During the car chase earlier this week, less than a minute after it broke on the FIRST local TV station, we had the audio feed on air, with traffic updates so motorists could stay as far away from the routes as possible. WFT had Mancow. I am not sure what WIBC ran, but it was the top of the hour, so maybe weather? (How many cars have a temperature gauge in their car now?)

- Last Friday Afternoon, we reported, accurately, the timeline of the two students, how the administration, and the fate of all the students involved. WFT aired Sporting News Radio. WIBC probably was doing a traffic update (Which WXNT does 4 times an hour) I am not sure whom Dave was interviewing.

but what was WXNT's REGULAR content during that time? A BIG BAND station can be the best news station in town, but if you can't stand big band music, you won't be listening to hear the "better" news.

I go back to my suggestion of paying just a FEW bucks to bring in a SOLID radio guy who doesn't shock, doesn't self-promote his own businesses, knows how to bring in pace callers on local topics, THEN break away to that BREAKING NEWS.

You have to TAKE people from the end of Limbaugh and pull them over to XNT for pm drive - good luck using your "generic" third-string syndicated talk.
 
cspangle said:
You want WXNT to be a better news source, with a bigger news room, but you love that Channel 13 does the news for WFT?

You say the strength of WXNT is their political coverage and talk, but they do too much of it? You'd like more weather, traffic and AP copy?

- During the car chase earlier this week, less than a minute after it broke on the FIRST local TV station, we had the audio feed on air, with traffic updates so motorists could stay as far away from the routes as possible. WFT had Mancow. I am not sure what WIBC ran, but it was the top of the hour, so maybe weather? (How many cars have a temperature gauge in their car now?)

Why did they have a TV feed? Because they have ZERO reporters. Credibility, at least in my eyes, has to be more than taking a TV feed that the board op spots on TV. WIBC had a reporter on scene and did the same traffic reports about what areas to avoid. No comparison.
 
WBRI 1500 AM has been the religious talk station in Indianapolis since 1964 and the people who want to listen to that format already know about it. It's too late for WXNT or any other station to pick up that particular format.

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Within 5 years, WXNT will either have been donated to a church by it's then owner or will be a "cash and carry" religious format.
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Herschel Sills said:
WBRI 1500 AM has been the religious talk station in Indianapolis since 1964 and the people who want to listen to that format already know about it. It's too late for WXNT or any other station to pick up that particular format.

Within 5 years, WXNT will either have been donated to a church by it's then owner or will be a "cash and carry" religious format.

i believe in "cash and carry" he means paid religious programming with no regard to locale - if you can't sell the ads, why not save some souls - for a fee of course. Religious MUSIC is another story - no profit there - but give a preacher a platform for self-indulgence and he'll come up with the cash.
 
Slurp said:
Why did they have a TV feed? Because they have ZERO reporters. Credibility, at least in my eyes, has to be more than taking a TV feed that the board op spots on TV. WIBC had a reporter on scene and did the same traffic reports about what areas to avoid. No comparison.

I listened to both stations that morning and never heard an 'on-scene' report from WIBC. In fact, based on what I heard, XNT won the information battle that morning.
 
ZV said:
Slurp said:
Why did they have a TV feed? Because they have ZERO reporters. Credibility, at least in my eyes, has to be more than taking a TV feed that the board op spots on TV. WIBC had a reporter on scene and did the same traffic reports about what areas to avoid. No comparison.

I listened to both stations that morning and never heard an 'on-scene' report from WIBC. In fact, based on what I heard, XNT won the information battle that morning.
and How many radio stations including WIBC going back to september 11, 2001 wasnt carrying at one point in time including abc Radio, CNN Radio and CBS Radio carrying TV Audio of the 9/11 terrorist attacks including one WIBC.
 
MikeStandardsFromIndiana said:
ZV said:
Slurp said:
Why did they have a TV feed? Because they have ZERO reporters. Credibility, at least in my eyes, has to be more than taking a TV feed that the board op spots on TV. WIBC had a reporter on scene and did the same traffic reports about what areas to avoid. No comparison.

I listened to both stations that morning and never heard an 'on-scene' report from WIBC. In fact, based on what I heard, XNT won the information battle that morning.
and How many radio stations including WIBC going back to september 11, 2001 wasnt carrying at one point in time including abc Radio, CNN Radio and CBS Radio carrying TV Audio of the 9/11 terrorist attacks including one WIBC.

Exactly. The source of the information isn't as important to the listener as the information itself.
 
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