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I've been an Imus fan for years and, although I disagree with his dismissal, I was deeply saddened by his comments last week.
What I'd like to see now is for Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, et al to make good on their promise to "go after" hip-hop & rap artists as well as record companies who have made millions degrading women.
As the saying goes, "the proof is in the pudding". Let's see if those who called for Imus' ouster continue the fight they've promised.
What I'd like to see now is for Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, et al to make good on their promise to "go after" hip-hop & rap artists as well as record companies who have made millions degrading women.
As the saying goes, "the proof is in the pudding". Let's see if those who called for Imus' ouster continue the fight they've promised.
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wc3434
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No, this is about ending talk radio. This is about animals, criminals setting the talk radio table.
Free Speech on talk radio was killed today.
The Day the Talk Radio Died.. Walter
Free Speech on talk radio was killed today.
The Day the Talk Radio Died.. Walter
I don't think anyone should be saddened by his comments. Even though his show has become more political over the years, it is STILL a Comedy Show. Nobody tunes in Imus expecting to hear "MEET THE PRESS". That's not what his show is all about. For him to be fired over some off handed remark that Bernard started in the first place... is just completely ridiculous. I just came from Stern Fan Network. Those people hate Imus... but many of them are still saying that his firing is WRONG! It puts a dent in free speech. When you really give the situation a close look, Imus wasn't really fired for his stupid comment. Imus was fired because people started blowing the whole thing out of proportion. It created a giant snowball effect and people started flipping out. People would like to to believe that there is No such thing as "Bad press". Oh there isn't? Go call Imus and see what he has to say about that today.
Skynet74 said:
I was saddened by his comments in the context that he and Bernard made them towards a group of college girls who play basketball. They're not public figures so, in my opinion, they're "hands off".
This is such a sham...it is sad. Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson have spent more time over the last 25 years creating all of the disharmony between the races...anyone remember Hymietown? Or Sharpton's comments about the guilt of the Duke Lacrosse players within the last year and yet, he's still on the air even though that got blown out of the water and, maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear an apology.
George Orwell wrote about a society becoming like this in 1984....we have Vanilla Super Bowl shows, Stern on satellite, no more Imus...yet the conglomerates that placed the contraints on these things wholeheartedly promote and distribute some of the most heinous material under the guise of "artistic freedom" with Rap albums.....double standard, thy name be "Politically Correct" because a white male could not even attempt to say/sing some of the material that they are producing and get away with it; but it is perfectly acceptable for the black rap artists can (remember all the flack that Eminem got into about his comments on gays).
I am not a black/white person...could care less your race, creed, gender, orientation....but at this point, i weep for the stupidity being perpetuated not only in this industry; but the country as a whole.
George Orwell wrote about a society becoming like this in 1984....we have Vanilla Super Bowl shows, Stern on satellite, no more Imus...yet the conglomerates that placed the contraints on these things wholeheartedly promote and distribute some of the most heinous material under the guise of "artistic freedom" with Rap albums.....double standard, thy name be "Politically Correct" because a white male could not even attempt to say/sing some of the material that they are producing and get away with it; but it is perfectly acceptable for the black rap artists can (remember all the flack that Eminem got into about his comments on gays).
I am not a black/white person...could care less your race, creed, gender, orientation....but at this point, i weep for the stupidity being perpetuated not only in this industry; but the country as a whole.
I was saddened by his comments in the context that he and Bernard made them towards a group of college girls who play basketball. They're not public figures so, in my opinion, they're "hands off".
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I disagree....they wanted to go to a D1 school, play for a D1 program with the potential to be in their conference tournament and possibly the NCAA tourney. They could have chosen to go to a D2 or D3 school and not have the opportunity to be on TV (or nationwide TV); but they made that decision, so with it comes the stigma of being a Public Figure.
Not every actor/actress/athlete/government official want to be a public figure; but it comes with the territory. You don't have to put yourself in that position by choosing another path in life, you can not be naive that you will not be a public figure because by the mere plying of your craft, you are in the public eye (even at a D2 or D3 school, too)
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I disagree....they wanted to go to a D1 school, play for a D1 program with the potential to be in their conference tournament and possibly the NCAA tourney. They could have chosen to go to a D2 or D3 school and not have the opportunity to be on TV (or nationwide TV); but they made that decision, so with it comes the stigma of being a Public Figure.
Not every actor/actress/athlete/government official want to be a public figure; but it comes with the territory. You don't have to put yourself in that position by choosing another path in life, you can not be naive that you will not be a public figure because by the mere plying of your craft, you are in the public eye (even at a D2 or D3 school, too)
wknd92:
We can agree to disagree. My point of view is that I'm part of the broadcast team for a D1 school. I would never consider taking the liberty, under the guise of free speech, of making any comment that would disparage the appearance of college athletes, unless serious circumstances warranted.
Thug-like actions on a court or field would qualify for appropriate commentary, but not physical appearance.
Again, we have our separate opinions, but that's why these forums are available.
We can agree to disagree. My point of view is that I'm part of the broadcast team for a D1 school. I would never consider taking the liberty, under the guise of free speech, of making any comment that would disparage the appearance of college athletes, unless serious circumstances warranted.
Thug-like actions on a court or field would qualify for appropriate commentary, but not physical appearance.
Again, we have our separate opinions, but that's why these forums are available.
Randy,
Let me throw this one at you for a case in point.....if I remember correctly, there was a team in the College World series a couple of years ago that either dyed their hair a color or did funky haircuts. That made national news....it was a team building/personal thing involving appearence that did garner extra commentary.
If you were to be broadcasting the game, are you saying that you wouldn't even comment on it?
I'm not saying that Imus' comments were appropriate; but just as in the last Seinfeld episode where they were ridiculed for not helping out the person who got robbed and then vilified for their comments, this seems much in the same line, unfortunately it is reality as opposed to being fiction like on the sitcom
Let me throw this one at you for a case in point.....if I remember correctly, there was a team in the College World series a couple of years ago that either dyed their hair a color or did funky haircuts. That made national news....it was a team building/personal thing involving appearence that did garner extra commentary.
If you were to be broadcasting the game, are you saying that you wouldn't even comment on it?
I'm not saying that Imus' comments were appropriate; but just as in the last Seinfeld episode where they were ridiculed for not helping out the person who got robbed and then vilified for their comments, this seems much in the same line, unfortunately it is reality as opposed to being fiction like on the sitcom
wknd92 said:
Sure, I'd comment on it. It'd be newsworthy. It'd be fun. Would I make fun of it? Not my style.
Think CBS blew it replacing Howard Stern? Watch 'em now!
http://nz.entertainment.yahoo.com/070412/5/p/b10.html
http://nz.entertainment.yahoo.com/070412/5/p/b10.html
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primativeradiogod said:
Out of that bunch I'd go for Mr Potato Head.
As far as Imus, if he had to be fired for anything it would have to be stupidity for thinking there wouldn't be repercussions. Maybe he didn't think it would go this far. As far as the "self esteem" card Rutgers is playing, since when does anything Imus says affect anyone's self esteem? People are responsible for their own self esteem. If you're affected by what people say that much, you've got head problems to begin with.
Wow!
I was not expecting this one at all. It hasn't hit Drudge yet to my knowledge. This is some crazy stuff.
Congratulations Jessy and Al. I'm waiting for a duke apology now. Oh, that's right. We won't get one.
So, who wants to bet that within the next 6 months, "South Park" who is on a Viacom-owned network by the way, will have an episode about this?
Absolutely ridiculous!
I was not expecting this one at all. It hasn't hit Drudge yet to my knowledge. This is some crazy stuff.
Congratulations Jessy and Al. I'm waiting for a duke apology now. Oh, that's right. We won't get one.
So, who wants to bet that within the next 6 months, "South Park" who is on a Viacom-owned network by the way, will have an episode about this?
Absolutely ridiculous!
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