Brian Maloney Progressive Talk Interview in All Access 11/29/05 (link)

[Tom_]

Re: Attacks on the credibility of Maloney instead of his arguments.

> you new here?? these guys are like a pack of wolves ready to
> slaughter anybody not pumping up air america 24-7.

It's really unfortunate, isn't it! I posted this because I thought it was insightful commentary on progressive talk. I hoped posters would debate the issues in the article. Instead, they have attacked the credibility of Mr. Maloney.

Do these attacks come from their political viewpoints? Or do they have legitimate reasons to think that Mr. Maloney is incompetent?

I have read several of his articles on talk radio. The issues and concerns that he addresses are worth serious consideration by progressive talk programmers. They are consistent with those offered by many others in the industry, both on this forum and elsewhere.

The goal is always ratings and revenue. Any article that provides insights into how to syndicate a successful progressive talk show is worth taking the time to read. Indeed, I could care less of the political persuasion of whoever writes an article on (progressive) talk radio. When I read an article, what really counts is wheter or not the author presents information that stimulates thought. Indeed, Mr. Maloney is biased, but so am I and so is everyone reading this board. We're all biased, even though we all strive to be independent. It's human nature to "take sides."

 

[Tom_]

Re: A "Radio Equalizer" Correction Or Two

This is EXACTLY the type of post that I had *HOPED* would be generated when I posted the AA article.


> Just a note, because I've known Brian for a while and I know
> he reads this board...
>
> This one sentence comment on his blog needs some
> clarification:
>
> "Lots of shakeups related to liberal talk radio reported in
> Phoenix, Ohio and Texas. More details coming soon."
>
> The "Ohio" link is to an article about the recent sacking of
> Clear Channel/Cleveland market manager/regional VP/GM Jim
> Meltzer.
>
> Really, Brian...it's only tangentially related to liberal
> talk radio. Yes, CC/Cleveland's big AM gun, WTAM/1100, airs
> Jerry Springer in middays (on a schedule otherwise filled
> with conservative talk and sports). And yes,
> CC/Akron-Canton's WARF/1350 is libtalk Radio Free Ohio. But
> the situation is much more complicated than that, and it's
> unlikely either of the above scenarios had much to do with
> what happened with Mr. Meltzer.
>
> The above sentence makes it sound like the "shakeup" had to
> do with liberal talk radio in the local CC clusters, which
> it probably does not.
>
> And please, Brian...next time you point out the inability of
> KOMY/1340 in the Monterey/Salinas/Santa Cruz market to sell
> time on its liberal talk shows, don't neglect to mention the
> quirky owner who, well, once aired you as a host on sister
> KSCO/1080. No discussion of that operation is complete
> without full disclosure on the nature of Mr. Zwerling and
> his colorful history as the station's owner. You know full
> well what's going on there.
>
> Now, could it be difficult to sell libtalk even WITHOUT the
> presence of MZ, even with the other libtalk operation in the
> market (KRXA/540)? Sure. But ignoring a mention of your
> former employer and some of his history is ignoring the
> elephant in the middle of the room.
>
> You know me, and you know I'm no automatic defender of the
> libtalk format. And some of your criticisms of how the AAR
> folks are doing business are certainly on target. But I
> believe you'd be better served by taking some of the above
> thoughts into account.
>
> -OA
>

 

[Tom_]

KGO LIBERAL HOURS CALCULATED

> Don't forget John Rothmann and Dr Bill - both are very much
> moderates.....me thinks somelone hasn't taken time to listen
> to a stream. The only advice KGO could offer is to acquire a
> library of very good radio hosts.....KGO has a batting
> lineup that would do well in many cities....they hit most of
> the spectrum....


KGO LIBERAL HOURS

KGO n/t 810kHz SAN FRANCISCO ABC RADIO

50kW CLASS A DIRECTIONAL-SAME PATTERN DAY AND NIGHT-THREE TOWERS

M-F BERNIE WARD 10P-1A 15HRS/WK

M-F RAY TALLIAFERRO 1A-5A 20HRS/WK

SAT/SUN JOHN ROTHMANN 1A-5A SAT AND 1A-6A SUN 9HRS/WK

SAT/SUN BOB BRINKER 1P-4P 6HRS/WK (FISCAL CONSERVATIVE/LIBERAL-ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND SOCIAL SECURITY)

SAT/SUN KAREL 7P-10P 6HRS/WK

SAT/SUN WATTENBURG 10P-1A 6HRS/WK (FISCAL C0NSERVATIVE/SOCIAL LIBERAL)

SUN BERNIE WARD 6A-9A 3HRS/WK

...AND OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED HERE ON GENE BURNS (7P-10P M-F, 15HRS/WK), and RONN OWENS (9A-NOON M-F 15HRS/WK)...I have not heard Owens, Burns, or BRIAN COPELAND Wattenburg and Brinker are unpredictable and both offer conservative viewpoints in addition to liberal perspectives.

 

[doc9464]

Correction: KGO LIBERAL HOURS CALCULATED

John Rothmann is not a liberal. He'll tell you 100 times consistently. Ive spoken to him about his being a moderate (for example - our discussion on the war). To me he is what Ed Schultz thinks he's doing...but of course John Rothmann is a way better host than Ed will ever be....

Neutral party....

Dr. Edell - neutral - as his time is not really political....


> M-F BERNIE WARD 10P-1A 15HRS/WK
>
> M-F RAY TALLIAFERRO 1A-5A 20HRS/WK

These two guys are liberals.....
>
> SAT/SUN JOHN ROTHMANN 1A-5A SAT AND 1A-6A SUN 9HRS/WK

again he is not liberal..hes a proud, self-described moderate
>
> SAT/SUN BOB BRINKER 1P-4P 6HRS/WK (FISCAL
> CONSERVATIVE/LIBERAL-ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND SOCIAL
> SECURITY)

doesnt make him liberal, moderate at best.....
>
> SAT/SUN KAREL 7P-10P 6HRS/WK

Loud liberal....LOL
>
> SAT/SUN WATTENBURG 10P-1A 6HRS/WK (FISCAL
> C0NSERVATIVE/SOCIAL LIBERAL)

not a liberal, moderate at best....
>
> SUN BERNIE WARD 6A-9A 3HRS/WK

liberal......
>
> ...AND OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED HERE ON GENE BURNS (7P-10P M-F,
> 15HRS/WK), and RONN OWENS (9A-NOON M-F 15HRS/WK)...I have
> not heard Owens, Burns, or BRIAN COPELAND Wattenburg and
> Brinker are unpredictable and both offer conservative
> viewpoints in addition to liberal perspectives.


I have not listened to Copeland. Burns is a Libratarian, Owens is a bucket head....ok seriously hes more conservative than Burns sometimes.....lol...i just dont like him...but he's no liberal..
>

 

[dampier]

Re: Attacks on the credibility of Maloney instead of his arguments.

> Do these attacks come from their political viewpoints? Or
> do they have legitimate reasons to think that Mr. Maloney is
> incompetent?

> I have read several of his articles on talk radio. The
> issues and concerns that he addresses are worth serious
> consideration by progressive talk programmers. They are
> consistent with those offered by many others in the
> industry, both on this forum and elsewhere.

Really? I've read his blog. It spent ALL summer soaking in a ridiculous loan affair with the Boys and Girls club, which he suggested was an enormous scandal that could involve jail time. He accused Al Franken of stealing money from poor children. He also claims that "nobody is listening to AAR," that "affiliates are leaving in droves," and "it's a failed formula," and that the network was "sinking" in lawsuits over Multicultural Broadcasting and brokered airtime. He then turns up on O'Reilly as a pretend unbiased industry observer to say Randi Rhodes was out of control and threatening the life of the president, that the entire network's lineup was a disaster which proves Air America was a failure. He co-wrote at least one of his "exposes" with conservative blogger Michelle Malkin. Read part one on his blog, part two on hers. That's impartial, Fox style!

If he wanted to be taken seriously, he wouldn't be running the kind of hit pieces that are backed up entirely by anonymous sources, claims of investigations that turn out to be totally untrue when an ordinary citizen does what he hopes you won't - pick up the phone and check it out for yourself, and sweeping conclusions of imminent failure at a time when the facts are polar opposite of what he's reporting. "AAR stations are leaving in droves" when the network is adding affiliates. "Nobody is listening," when stations in his neck of the woods in the Pacific Northwest, like KPOJ, are doing stunning ratings.

> The goal is always ratings and revenue. Any article that
> provides insights into how to syndicate a successful
> progressive talk show is worth taking the time to read.

So if Adolf Hitler wrote an article on solving overcrowded Jewish housing conditions in Jerusalem, you would read that article and accept it on face value alone?

When the stuff he writes doesn't check out or is blatantly in opposition of facts on the ground, I'm not about to consider his views when he can't even get the basic facts straight.

 

[Scribbler]

Re: Maloney Has No Credibility

>
> do you even work in radio??? cbs news and infinity
> broadcasting are different animals.

I worked for what Brian Maloney and other right-wingers call a "CBS/Infinity" station for more than four years. Maloney, World Net Daily, and much of the rest of the right-wing blogosphere regularly accuse "CBS/Infinity" of all sorts of left-wing perfidy.
>
> Maloney was fired from his
> > weekend job and KIRO dismissed as nonsense his later claim
>
> > that the firing was over the Rather issue. There are
> plenty
> > of CBS affiliates that carry right-wing talkers who were
> all
> > over Rather and the only one that was fired was Maloney.
> Do
> > you actually believe that with all the heavyweight
> > conservative talkers obsessing over the Rather issue, CBS
> > bothered to pressure Entercom to fire one obscure weekend
> > talker in Seattle?
>
> why don't you show where all of this was asserted, network
> pressure and all, or is this just your crapola? Wasn't
> A.A.R. the topic anyway??

The topic was Maloney's thoughts on progressive talk radio. The right wing media and blogosphere were full of "crapola" more than a year ago about Maloney's claims that CBS affiliate KIRO fired him for saying bad things about Rather. The strong implication was that CBS was behind the firing. Most people wrongly assume that CBS controls its affiliates. Do a Google search.

 

[Spindoctor]

> > Brian Baloney Maloney is a has-been weekend guy with a
> chip
> > on his shoulder and an axe to gring. His opinions mean
> > nothing except to Michelle Malkin, Bill O'Reilly and
> vermin
> > that prowl back alleys.
>
> I thought it was an excellent interview, and Mr Maloney made
> several comments worth serious consideration, especially
> about syndication of progressive talkers by Jones and the
> success of mostly liberal KGO n/t 810. I agree when he says
> that if he was running AAR, he would have called KGO for
> advice on liberal programming.
>
> I would hope that people would discuss the issues in the
> interview instead of attacking the guy.
>
Sorry Guy, the majority of the people on this board are wonderfully
full of not only themselves, but the same ol' leftist hate they claim
they NEVER spout. You seem well-read as well as educated, here you
are the minority.
And there's no need for the "loving crowd" to respond with
the rhetoric, I've heard everything you have to same because
IT"S ALL THE SAME SCRIPT!
The Spindoctor
P.s. I'd love to visit the world some of you live in. It is so
diametrically opposed to reality. Oh sorry, did I use a word with
more than 1 syllable?

 

[Spindoctor]

> >
> > I thought it was an excellent interview, and Mr Maloney
> made
> > several comments worth serious consideration, especially
> > about syndication of progressive talkers by Jones and the
> > success of mostly liberal KGO n/t 810. I agree when he
> says
> > that if he was running AAR, he would have called KGO for
> > advice on liberal programming.
> >
> > I would hope that people would discuss the issues in the
> > interview instead of attacking the guy.
> >
> you new here?? these guys are like a pack of wolves ready to
> slaughter anybody not pumping up air america 24-7.
>
Amen!

 

[Spindoctor]

Re: Attacks on the credibility of Maloney instead of his arguments.

> So if Adolf Hitler wrote an article on solving overcrowded
> Jewish housing conditions in Jerusalem, you would read that
> article and accept it on face value alone?

Aah, THERE IT IS. Why is it when your point is failing, your side
of the equation consistently pulls up a name like Adolf Hitler to
attempt to make your point. Give me a break. Come back at this guy
with intelligent discourse. Not the same pile of crap the libs like to
shovel on AAR. You were about to make a point that COULD have had some
relevance but no, you had to throw the Hitler card. PREDICTABLE. Go
back to your crayons and paste.
The Spindoctor
>
> When the stuff he writes doesn't check out or is blatantly
> in opposition of facts on the ground, I'm not about to
> consider his views when he can't even get the basic facts
> straight.
Sir, have you actually read any of your own posts?

 

[NewsVet]

Re: Maloney Has No Credibility

> > The idea that CBS would pressure KIRO to fire a weekend
> talk
> > show host because he dissed Dan Rather is silly.
> >
> do you have a link for this, that anyone claimed network
> pressure, think the issue was the local manager, who was
> also fired..

I was responding to somebody else's post. No I don't have a link, but I remember many conservatives expressing outrage that "CBS" or a "CBS affiliate" had fired Maloney. Many people think an "affiliate" is the same thing as an owned and operated station and that when a network says "jump" the affiliates say "how high?" As a former CBS Radio employee I know how wrong that is.

 

[dampier]

Re: Attacks on the credibility of Maloney instead of his arguments.

Your handle speaks louder than you do.

> Aah, THERE IT IS. Why is it when your point is failing,
> your side of the equation consistently pulls up a name like Adolf
> Hitler to attempt to make your point.

My point is hardly "failing." Your "spindoctor" reply draws the impression I am comparing anyone with Hitler, which I'm not. Nice try... if you want comparisons that meet this criteria, you should consult Bill O'Reilly's appearance on Today last week and Ann Coulter on Fox, both of which who accused liberals of BEING Nazis or Nazi-like, or desiring appeasement of them.

> Give me a break. Come back at this guy with intelligent discourse.

Obviously you're also new here. We've been through Baloney's "suggestions" in this board all spring and summer. Feel free to read back through those if you want to be enlightened. Nobody is attacking the guy who quoted the Unequalizer.

> You were about to make a point that COULD have had some
> relevance but no, you had to throw the Hitler card.
> PREDICTABLE. Go back to your crayons and paste.

Apparently you weren't able to get past your personal misintepretation and spin of the Hitler reference to manage to understand the greater point. You can lead some people to water, but you can't make 'em drink.

> Sir, have you actually read any of your own posts?

These salad shooter attacks are the Cool Whip of the News/Talk forum... light, fluffy, and otherwise lacking of substance. How about you provide specific examples instead of the usual dismissals I read from people without facts on their side...

"You're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong. I can't tell you why you are... but you are!"

 

[Tom_]

Re: Correction: Second correction: KGO "left-leaning hosts"

> John Rothmann is not a liberal. He'll tell you 100 times
> consistently. Ive spoken to him about his being a moderate
> (for example - our discussion on the war). To me he is what
> Ed Schultz thinks he's doing...but of course John Rothmann
> is a way better host than Ed will ever be....

Thanks for the corrections... I shouldn't have used "liberal" in the previous post - I SHOULD have referred Ward,Karel,Talliaferro,Rothmann as "left-leaning hosts."

John Rothmann has become my favorite talk host over the past year. I listen both night and day. Last weekend John said that he swiched paties from Republican to Democrat (he used to work for Nixon). John's positions on foreign policy and social issues are consistent with moderate Democrats.

John had an interesting interview with Michael Medved a few months ago (book = "A Right Turn," or something similar). They knew each other when they were younger, but each ultimately went into politically opposite directions.

And -

> Neutral party....
>
> Dr. Edell - neutral - as his time is not really
> political....

Dr Edell might be a "social liberal," based on his comments on various medical issues.

> > SAT/SUN BOB BRINKER 1P-4P 6HRS/WK (FISCAL
> > CONSERVATIVE/LIBERAL-ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND SOCIAL
> > SECURITY)
>
> doesnt make him liberal, moderate at best.....

Yes, Bob is politically unpredictable and is pro-alternative energy and the fed govt increasing gas mileage to reduce foreign oil imports. Bob is against social security privitization.

 

[Tom_]

Re: Doc94? You called Rothmann??? I think I heard it!

> > John Rothmann is not a liberal. He'll tell you 100 times
> > consistently. Ive spoken to him about his being a moderate
>
> > (for example - our discussion on the war).

Doc94 - Are you referring to an on-air call that you made to Rothmann? I wonder if you're one of his many regulars. The loyality of John's listeners is phenomenal. We will stay up all night with insomnia or listen to the KGO archives.

(Actually, now that I think of it, I do recall a caller from BACK EAST SOMEWHERE last weekend discussing the war, was that you? John responded to the caller's question on the war that he was ORIGINALLY for REMOVING the WMD if they were a threat, yet at the same time, John explained that he always knew we could NEVER occupy a country in the Middle East for an extended period.)

You might try to find the article on John's book collection in the Books Passage bookstore 11/12/05 pdf newsletter.

It's buried within this huge pdf newsletter file, entitled "The KGO Connection - John Rothmann."

http://www.bookpassage.com/newsletter/11-12-05.pdf

Or this one on Owens and Rothmann:

"Hate Talk: Jewish Radio Hosts Attacked by Anti-Israel Voices."

in http://jewishsf.com

 

[doc9464]

Re: Doc94? You called Rothmann??? I think I heard it!

The stream is what allowed me to get back to listening to KGO for its quality again. I used to live in CA until the last few years. Now I live in S. Mass.
I've been listening to KGO even before AAR's launch.....regarding the conversation....no it wasn't me last weekend but i am a regular. He knows my area from some past connection so when i get on i get a little bit more time because of that....we sparred on Kerry, the war, etc.

I can respect him because his views are well framed and explained...i disagree with him but moderates and liberals can't always see eye to eye. Like you I do find his shows enjoyable...Ed Schultz should understand what a true left-leaning moderate should be. Ed Schultz should also learn that you don't have to act or sound like Rush to make a valid point.

KGO is my favorite all time talk station...so I do follow them regularly....especially Ray and Bernie.


> Doc94 - Are you referring to an on-air call that you made to
> Rothmann? I wonder if you're one of his many regulars. The
> loyality of John's listeners is phenomenal. We will stay up
> all night with insomnia or listen to the KGO archives.
>
> (Actually, now that I think of it, I do recall a caller from
> BACK EAST SOMEWHERE last weekend discussing the war, was
> that you? John responded to the caller's question on the
> war that he was ORIGINALLY for REMOVING the WMD if they were
> a threat, yet at the same time, John explained that he
> always knew we could NEVER occupy a country in the Middle
> East for an extended period.)
>
> You might try to find the article on John's book collection
> in the Books Passage bookstore 11/12/05 pdf newsletter.
>
> It's buried within this huge pdf newsletter file, entitled
> "The KGO Connection - John Rothmann."
>
> http://www.bookpassage.com/newsletter/11-12-05.pdf
>
> Or this one on Owens and Rothmann:
>
> "Hate Talk: Jewish Radio Hosts Attacked by Anti-Israel
> Voices."
>
> in http://jewishsf.com
>

 

[Les]

Kinda off topic....

> The stream is what allowed me to get back to listening to
> KGO for its quality again. I used to live in CA until the
> last few years. Now I live in S. Mass.

Good Lord! I was born in Fall River and escaped to California
and beyond. I still delight in showing people where Fall River
is: Raise your left arm in a muscle-builder pose. Tell 'em
to imagine the arm represents Cape Cod, the great LEFT arm of
The United States. Then, point into the armpit. Fall River.

If you're really in or near FR and haven't been there very
long, e-mail me through my profile and I'll lead you to some
good restaurants. I was there just a few weeks ago for that
greatest of Fall River amusements: A funeral!

> I've been listening to KGO even before AAR's
> launch.....

I share your opinion of KGO, particularly Bernie, but for
morning talk I much prefer the sister station and Lee Rogers.
Mind you, not necessarily for the politics, for the entertainment.
Unfortunately neither station puts much of a signal up this
way until sunrise.

<P ID="signature">______________
Misanthropy:

Not just a hobby...a WAY OF LIFE!</P>

 

[kaufcom]

Re: Attacks on the credibility of Maloney instead of his arguments.

This is the third post on this string promoting Maloney's blog. I think everyone on this board knows about Maloney's blog and if they are interested will check it out from time to time. I'll tell you what I told that racoon guy who always posts clips from Maloney's blog. If Maloney has something to say on this board, he is welcome to post.

> > you new here?? these guys are like a pack of wolves ready
> to
> > slaughter anybody not pumping up air america 24-7.
>
> It's really unfortunate, isn't it! I posted this because I
> thought it was insightful commentary on progressive talk. I
> hoped posters would debate the issues in the article.
> Instead, they have attacked the credibility of Mr. Maloney.
>
>
> Do these attacks come from their political viewpoints? Or
> do they have legitimate reasons to think that Mr. Maloney is
> incompetent?
>
> I have read several of his articles on talk radio. The
> issues and concerns that he addresses are worth serious
> consideration by progressive talk programmers. They are
> consistent with those offered by many others in the
> industry, both on this forum and elsewhere.
>
> The goal is always ratings and revenue. Any article that
> provides insights into how to syndicate a successful
> progressive talk show is worth taking the time to read.
> Indeed, I could care less of the political persuasion of
> whoever writes an article on (progressive) talk radio. When
> I read an article, what really counts is wheter or not the
> author presents information that stimulates thought.
> Indeed, Mr. Maloney is biased, but so am I and so is
> everyone reading this board. We're all biased, even though
> we all strive to be independent. It's human nature to "take
> sides."
>
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