Brief vid about some rap thug and the Imus issue

[LinoNYC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpeb5t1dYCw&mode=related&search=

A Paula Zahn piece about some dreg simulating rape of a 15 year old on-stage. It also ties in the Imus firing and the double standard involved. Not surprisingly, the rapper involved is an ex-con with a lenghtly record of violence and drug pushing. Only the best for hip-hop.

Lino

 

[Brooklyndon]

15-year old love did wonders for R. Kelly's career....

Isn't Akon a youth ambassador for Senegal?

 

[Walter Graff]

You ought to get the facts correct. The piece shown on You Tube was not simulated rape. It was a simulated mutual sex act. It was a concert where all attendees were supposed to be 18. The club didn't bother to check everyones IDs and a 14 year old girl got in and was the person seen on stage in the simulation. Whether it was right or wrong is not the issue here, it was NOT simulated rape.

This kind of music is very sexual. This happened to get in the news but I've seen some where girls actually give BJs to the performers on stage. No that is not correct but the issue here is society as a whole and how we accept this. I have a lot more hope that Don Imus would be less likely to say such things, but obviously he did and that carries more weight than some rapper. And remember as was shown in the link you posted, IMUS has been calling people names for years. He simply got his hand caught in the cookie jar this time around. It was ten years due and because CBS expected higher standards from Imus and got tired of Imus' derogatory comments and saw the future of Imus' programming fading, he lost his job. As for Akon, I don't expect the same standards. In fact I don't think there are standards. Sometimes Parents need to be parents and one, know what there kids are doing and two, instill values in them.

IMUS lost his job because it was time and the best way for CBS to fire him was to find a reason.

 

[LinoNYC]

You ought to get the facts correct. The piece shown on You Tube was not simulated rape. It was a simulated mutual sex act.

Please, save the childish semantics. The facts as publicly available state that this person went to this show to participate in a dance contest, not to be mounted and thrown to the floor.

The original video seems to have been removed from YouTube but this clip is indicative enough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OS1ai989Mw

This kind of music is very sexual. This happened to get in the news but I've seen some where girls actually give BJs to the performers on stage. No that is not correct but the issue here is society as a whole and how we accept this.

Again, more childish excuses. Simply, a person who attends a show should not be assaulted by the performers.

As for Akon, I don't expect the same standards. In fact I don't think there are standards.

Cop-out answer excuse the bastard bacause we don't haven't codified a set of rules.

How about decency and respect.

IMUS lost his job because it was time and the best way for CBS to fire him was to find a reason.

Awkward spectulation, at best. If it was infactit was "time" for Imus to go it's doubtful that CBS would have signed him to a five year contract. If CBS had wanted to rid itself of Imus it could have been handled without the rancor and lawsuits that will probably cost them all, or most of his contract, legal fees and continuing losses at WFAN and the stations that he was syndicated on.

Then again, we are talking about CBS.

Lino

 

[Walter Graff]

Since neither you nor I was at this event and all you can do is speculate as to what happened, it is not appropriate to discuss it as if you were. This was a rappers dance competition. Have you been to any of these types of events? I have. Every one I have been to is sexual in nature with heavy blatant sexual undertones. Unless the video lies, it's clear this girl was not forced to do anything and was a willing participant. She did not leave the stage in disgust but stayed there and participated as the performance went on. It was not rape, nor a simulation of it so if you want to talk about excuses not being made, simply don't make excuses for the premise of your original post. It was not a simulation of rape as your posts states.

As for Imus, your attempt at comparison is clearly weak as is Paula Zahns presentation. It's two different arenas with two different standards. How about making a radio comparison since we have a few other radio perosnalities in the same boat. But even then I don't think Imus was released for what he said. It was much deeper than that so I understand.

And contracts are great but I have been told by a good source that CBS had been looking for an out for some time and found it. Anyway Imus is finally gone. To me he was a sad excuse for a radio personality who had little interesting to say and who lost his shtick a long time ago as his very clear 65% drop in syndicated stations in the last few years.

 

[LinoNYC]

Since neither you nor I was at this event and all you can do is speculate as to what happened, it is not appropriate to discuss it as if you were. This was a rappers dance competition. Have you been to any of these types of events? I have

reality: This incident has caused outrage both in the country in which it occured and here. "Artistic license" not withstanding, the girl was humped like a dog, thrown to the floor and dragged around like a mop. Only the crudest types would find this "entertaining".

As for Imus, your attempt at comparison is clearly weak as is Paula Zahns presentation. It's two different arenas with two different standards.

My "attempt" was to present a clip that illustrated the double standard here with regard to Imus' verbal assualt vs. some rapper's physical one. Your response highlights the problem

And contracts are great but I have been told by a good source that CBS had been looking for an out for some time and found it.

Well, the "some time" must not include a year ago when they granted him a five year, 50 million dollar contract.. They expected to keep cashing-in on this character just as his other employers had done for the previous 39 years.

As for his drop in syndication outlets this was more likely due to the new indecency fines that could be ruinious to the sort of lame stations that would rely on fare such as this. Ask Howard Stern.

Lino

 

[Walter Graff]

"My "attempt" was to present a clip that illustrated the double standard here with regard to Imus' verbal assualt vs. some rapper's physical one. "

Guess it didn't work!

 

[rapking]

Akon was drop by Verizon and R.Kelly will get his day in Court ( someday ) . Only double standard is the Pro-Imus Junk, on this Board .