Brief WADO-am Music aircheck

[LinoNYC]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sgqhz1 1min 40sec wav 16mb

Recorded from their overnight (Mexican) music show. Their 7KW night power does not allow me more than mono (core) mode, a better radio or antenna would help. Daytime the 50K signal locks at all times including storms.

Lino

 

[wgliradio]

Do you live on Patterson Plank Rd?

 

[SUPERCASTER]

Why did you post this?
No one seems to know or care.
I used to have noisy Hispanic neighbors who would argue loudly, complete with crashing sound effects, in super hi-fi stereo surround sound all night.
Want to hear 'um?

 

[LinoNYC]

Why did you post this?
No one seems to know or care.
I used to have noisy Hispanic neighbors who would argue loudly, complete with crashing sound effects, in super hi-fi stereo surround sound all night.
Want to hear 'um?

Nineteen people have downloaded the file.

You can heckle all you want Sup, the facts are AM faces two alternatives as the last of it's audience fades out. One is that iboc stabilizes the situation and maybe, in time, allows stations to offer formats that interest those under 50.

The other is preachers, other hucksters oh and more ethnic formats catering to likes that tormented you in your double-wide.

A laughing Lino

 

[SUPERCASTER]

Why did you post this?
No one seems to know or care.
I used to have noisy Hispanic neighbors who would argue loudly, complete with crashing sound effects, in super hi-fi stereo surround sound all night.
Want to hear 'um?

Nineteen people have downloaded the file.

You can heckle all you want Sup, the facts are AM faces two alternatives as the last of it's audience fades out. One is that iboc stabilizes the situation and maybe, in time, allows stations to offer formats that interest those under 50.

The other is preachers, other hucksters oh and more ethnic formats catering to likes that tormented you in your double-wide.

A laughing Lino

Perhaps out of curiosity as to why you bothered posted this.
Only one even bothered to make any comment, and all he wanted to know or say was

Do you live on Patterson Plank Rd?

(wgliradio)

 

[kenglish]

You can heckle all you want Sup, the facts are AM faces two alternatives as the last of it's audience fades out. One is that iboc stabilizes the situation and maybe, in time, allows stations to offer formats that interest those under 50.
The other is preachers, other hucksters oh and more ethnic formats catering to likes that tormented you in your double-wide.

A laughing Lino

I'm bettin' on the preachers, myself .

 

[RadioFixerCLE]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sgqhz1 1min 40sec wav 16mb

Recorded from their overnight (Mexican) music show. Their 7KW night power does not allow me more than mono (core) mode, a better radio or antenna would help. Daytime the 50K signal locks at all times including storms.

Lino

I consistently copy Radio WADO's HD signal in upper Manhattan at night. You have to adjust the loop antenna juuuuust right. There may be occasional bursts of noise (generated from my building's elevator motor) that throw the radio back into analog, but it quickly recovers. I'm using a Radiosophy HDR-100.

Someone's gotta do something about that diversity delay though....it's off by about a second. :-\

 

[Savage]

Hey Lee-know - in the well-known fashion among attorneys of already knowing the answer, when you ask a witness a question:

Can you cite any examples of AM stations in decline where HD-AM "stablilizes the situation" or makes possible "formats that interest those under 50?"

Or even one? Callsign and before-and-after Arbitron numbers, or accounts of format switches benefitted by marvelous IBOC stereo AM digital thingy?

 

[SignalSeeker]

I hope that a moderator is watching Supercaster. I don't know why he had to place the racial innuendo in this forum. The forum is technically driven. His bias against HD radio can't be as strong as his other bias against certain ethnic classes. Leave the forum for those who wish to discus intelligently the subject of HD radio. Leave your prejudice at home in your own miserable life.

ATTENTION MODERATOR; WATCH THIS GUY, HE IS A DANGER TO AMERICA !

 

[LinoNYC]

Hey Lee-know - in the well-known fashion among attorneys of already knowing the answer, when you ask a witness a question:

Can you cite any examples of AM stations in decline where HD-AM "stablilizes the situation" or makes possible "formats that interest those under 50?"

Or even one? Callsign and before-and-after Arbitron numbers, or accounts of format switches benefitted by marvelous IBOC stereo AM digital thingy?

Well, Mr. Sausage I see your reading comprehension hasn't improved since we last conviened.

In my original statement, in which I'll highlight the pertiinent point for your sake:

"the facts are AM faces two alternatives as the last of it's audience fades out. One is that iboc stabilizes the situation and maybe, in time, allows stations to offer formats that interest those under 50."

In keeping with the tradition of the Profession for which you trained but (understanably) did not practice, I'll in-turn ask:

Where, in which case, using the accepted metric Arbitron has it been demonstrated that AM iboc has damaged AM radio listening?

Have an answer, counsel?... or should we call for adjournment.

Lino

 

[Savage]

Okee dokee! We'll all just take your response as a "no, I can't cite a single example of how IBOC has helped rebuild audiences for AM." Just as I, and most of us, thought.

While you're publicly braying about the educational shortcomings of other posters here, you might want to consider spelling your insults correctly. The word is "convened." As in convention, not "convenient." As in, "conventional methods of modulation of the analog variety generally sound better than IBOC's cobbled faked error-choked codec."

While we're at it: "pertinent" has one "i", not two, and "understandably" contains a "d". "Profession" is not a proper noun and thus does not need capitalization.

Maybe one of your parents or some other responsible adult should review your posts before you unleash them, thus to mitigate your embarassing yourself here.

 

[LinoNYC]

Okee dokee! We'll all just take your response as a "no, I can't cite a single example of how IBOC has helped rebuild audiences for AM." Just as I, and most of us, thought.

While you're publicly braying about the educational shortcomings of other posters here, you might want to consider spelling your insults correctly. The word is "convened." As in convention, not "convenient." As in, "conventional methods of modulation of the analog variety generally sound better than IBOC's cobbled faked error-choked codec."

While we're at it: "pertinent" has one "i", not two, and "understandably" contains a "d". "Profession" is not a proper noun and thus does not need capitalization.

Maybe one of your parents or some other responsible adult should review your posts before you unleash them, thus to mitigate your embarassing yourself here.

Okee dokee! We'll all just take your response as a "no, I can't cite a single example of how IBOC has helped rebuild audiences for AM." Just as I, and most of us, thought.

You're evasion of my question answers it.

In your little hamlet you have nonetheless heard of "red herring" have you not?

Asking if am iboc has "helped" an am station is a good example. The tech is too new, and you know that.

I have a fair picture of what you are, but am missing the motivating factor in your obsession and vitriol regarding iboc.

Help me out here, I have two theories: First that you are a sentimentalist and can't stand seeing major change to the AM band.

The second is more practical in that you are aware of what is happening to the medium you have invested so much in and you are fearful that when it comes time to sell your operation the possibility that it won't be digital-ready will lower the price.

Unlike some of the other jokers here you atleast have a legitimate concern but you put on quite a show.

Lino

 

[Savage]

Holey moley! Thanks, Lino - you have absolutely made my day!!!

Yeah, I'm SO TIRED from those long nights of tossing-and-turning over how the market value of my station has been DIMINISHED because I HAVEN'T INSTALLED a nifty new iBiquity Decepticon! (Much in the same way I have to shoulder my way past the HD-hungry radio listeners forming a double-line filing into the local Radio Shack to buy Accurians, whenever I have to pick up an XLR connector.)

The "tech of HD is too new??" Lino, it's BEEN IN USE by the vast majority of operating IBOC stations for FIVE YEARS!! If there was an IBOC success story, we'd be hearing about it. Don't you think??

"Help you out here?" What could I possibly do? You've got all the answers. And you got 'em from Bob Struble.

I enjoy jousting with you, Lino - I really do, I'm serious! Have a great day!

 

[LinoNYC]

Holey moley! Thanks, Lino - you have absolutely made my day!!!

Yeah, I'm SO TIRED from those long nights of tossing-and-turning over how the market value of my station has been DIMINISHED because I HAVEN'T INSTALLED a nifty new iBiquity Decepticon! (Much in the same way I have to shoulder my way past the HD-hungry radio listeners forming a double-line filing into the local Radio Shack to buy Accurians, whenever I have to pick up an XLR connector.)

The "tech of HD is too new??" Lino, it's BEEN IN USE by the vast majority of operating IBOC stations for FIVE YEARS!! If there was an IBOC success story, we'd be hearing about it. Don't you think??

"Help you out here?" What could I possibly do? You've got all the answers. And you got 'em from Bob Struble.

I enjoy jousting with you, Lino - I really do, I'm serious! Have a great day!

The "tech of HD is too new??" Lino, it's BEEN IN USE by the vast majority of operating IBOC stations for FIVE YEARS!! If there was an IBOC success story, we'd be hearing about it. Don't you think??

Now you are being a typical lawyer, there at present 240 AM iboc stations most of those have signed on within the last 2 years.

Recievers have only begun to be of the practical types that people actually buy, a fact that you and other detracter often allude to.

As for MR Strudel or whatever, remember I have only a cheap radio invested, it's you and the other AM broadcasters that are facing extinction.

And do have that nice day!

Lino

 

[R.F. Burns]

Holey moley! Thanks, Lino - you have absolutely made my day!!!

Yeah, I'm SO TIRED from those long nights of tossing-and-turning over how the market value of my station has been DIMINISHED because I HAVEN'T INSTALLED a nifty new iBiquity Decepticon! (Much in the same way I have to shoulder my way past the HD-hungry radio listeners forming a double-line filing into the local Radio Shack to buy Accurians, whenever I have to pick up an XLR connector.)

The "tech of HD is too new??" Lino, it's BEEN IN USE by the vast majority of operating IBOC stations for FIVE YEARS!! If there was an IBOC success story, we'd be hearing about it. Don't you think??

"Help you out here?" What could I possibly do? You've got all the answers. And you got 'em from Bob Struble.

I enjoy jousting with you, Lino - I really do, I'm serious! Have a great day!

The "tech of HD is too new??" Lino, it's BEEN IN USE by the vast majority of operating IBOC stations for FIVE YEARS!! If there was an IBOC success story, we'd be hearing about it. Don't you think??

Now you are being a typical lawyer, there at present 240 AM iboc stations most of those have signed on within the last 2 years.

Recievers have only begun to be of the practical types that people actually buy, a fact that you and other detracter often allude to.

As for MR Strudel or whatever, remember I have only a cheap radio invested, it's you and the other AM broadcasters that are facing extinction.

And do have that nice day!

Lino

Not that Mr. Savage needs me to defend his point of view but I believe that when it comes to presenting his point of view on the subject of IBOC radio we must take what he says as his honest opinion and I truly believe that if any of us were in his position, we might take a similar tact. At least he is being honest here. My problem with many of the anti IBOC people is the vitriol they use when responding to those of us who have had different experiences. On the other hand, by suggesting that AM facilities will either go under or sell out to the shady infomercial client in the next 5 or 10 years, is only a matter of opinion. No one really can predict what may or may not occur in the future. As has been brought up in other threads, HD's effectiveness in cities such as NY might be different than what other less populated areas of the country might be experiencing. Unfortunately we can only base our comments on our own experiences. We might as well be speaking different languages here and that is a major problem when trying to sensibly discuss this subject. Months ago I wrote the following; because each of us has a love for this medium, we take differing comments made here by others to heart but if most of us met in a room, we’d all get along famously, because each of us has that common love of radio. I stand by my statement with the exception of a few here who tend to go over the top. I think this is a point which we should all keep in mind.

 

[Savage]

Well-put, RF. And there is another possibility here nobody is talking about.

Suppose we're ALL WRONG??

There remains the possibility that we're all debating the gauge of railroad tracks while, half a mile away, an interstate system is being built.

After all, it looked like radio was doomed when TV started sucking all the long-form entertainment audience away in the early 50s. Circa 1946 nobody would have predicted the rise and preeminence of format-specific radio. I personally think that the web, satradio and iPods may eventually point to new ways for radio to reinvent itself - yet again.

Ours is an industry with an almost unbelievable degree of resilience. Detroit whines about how imports have taken away 60 percent of their 1950s domestic market penetration. How about the fact that radio has experienced a 900% increase in commercial station population during the era when TV was supposed to have taken the shovel to us as an industry - and has thrived and prospered?

Much is made of the threats posed to radio by the internet and personal music devices. But view them in historical perspective: all of the scariness of satradio, iPods, cellphone media and the Internet COMBINED, pale with the threat posed to radio by TV in the 50s.

We survived that and moved on, to use Winston Churchill's phrase, to "broad sunlit uplands." Does anyone want to bet along with me that radio will do it yet again?

(We might have to bind and gag Mark Mays and the Fields and stow them in the basement, though.....)

 

[SUPERCASTER]

I hope that a moderator is watching Supercaster. I don't know why he had to place the racial innuendo in this forum. The forum is technically driven. His bias against HD radio can't be as strong as his other bias against certain ethnic classes. Leave the forum for those who wish to discus intelligently the subject of HD radio. Leave your prejudice at home in your own miserable life.

ATTENTION MODERATOR; WATCH THIS GUY, HE IS A DANGER TO AMERICA !

I posted no "racial innuendo in this forum", therefore your accusations are false, and your statement "WATCH THIS GUY, HE IS A DANGER TO AMERICA !" is not only false but inflammatory.

 

[RadioFixerCLE]

(We might have to bind and gag Mark Mays and the Fields and stow them in the basement, though.....)

Not to mention Farid Suleman, Sumner Redstone, etc. etc. Clear Channel aren't the only "bad guys" around, unfortunately. :-\

 

[Savage]

Right you are, Steph. Mark and The Fields were my examples, but they're not the only culprits. At least Farid Suleman had the good sense to let Martin Stabbert act on his conscience when it comes to HD-AM at night.

There do exist, fortunately, those in the radio industry with courage and common sense when it comes to IBOC, instead of stubbornly insisting on swimming out to sea with an anchor lashed to their backs simply because they told their bosses and shareholders "it's gonna work out great!" Even CC filed comments with the Commission urging a 6db digital power reduction at night to mitigate adjacent-channel skywave problems.

But...thanks to Glynn Walden's corrupt ego......but, NOOO!!!