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British Columbia station calls

livingfruitvirus said:
According to Radio Locator, there's an AM station in British Columbia with the calls CACLNA. Now, how is this feasible? The CA calls belong to Chile.

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=CACLNA&x=0&y=0&sr=Y&s=C

Actually there is no such station.

The Canadians have coordinated this frequency with the US - they've got the FCC to agree not to allow any stations that would interfere with any station they might authorize on 1210. My guess is that someone in Canada *applied* for a new station on 1210 here, but the station has not yet been approved. (it's quite possible it's already been denied but they didn't get around to telling the US we don't have to protect it anymore. We notify "phantom records" to Canada and Mexico as well.)

If you go to http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html and input CACLNA as the calls, you'll see the same placeholder in the FCC database.

Try it again with the calls XENVA. You'll get 256 records for stations all across Mexico and throughout the AM band. None of which actually exist. "NVA" stands for "Nueva" - "New" - and these are coordinated "placeholder" records for Mexico.

It should however be noted that the Canadians *do* have quite a few stations on the air whose call letters *do* use Chilean assignments -- most CBC stations have calls starting with "CB", a prefix which, like "CA", is assigned to Chile. I suppose they get away with it because the stations cannot be heard in Chile (except by the most serious of DXers<grin>) - and they almost never use the calls on the air...
 
w9wi said:
livingfruitvirus said:
According to Radio Locator, there's an AM station in British Columbia with the calls CACLNA. Now, how is this feasible? The CA calls belong to Chile.

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=CACLNA&x=0&y=0&sr=Y&s=C

Actually there is no such station.

The Canadians have coordinated this frequency with the US - they've got the FCC to agree not to allow any stations that would interfere with any station they might authorize on 1210. My guess is that someone in Canada *applied* for a new station on 1210 here, but the station has not yet been approved. (it's quite possible it's already been denied but they didn't get around to telling the US we don't have to protect it anymore. We notify "phantom records" to Canada and Mexico as well.)

If you go to http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html and input CACLNA as the calls, you'll see the same placeholder in the FCC database.

Try it again with the calls XENVA. You'll get 256 records for stations all across Mexico and throughout the AM band. None of which actually exist. "NVA" stands for "Nueva" - "New" - and these are coordinated "placeholder" records for Mexico.

It should however be noted that the Canadians *do* have quite a few stations on the air whose call letters *do* use Chilean assignments -- most CBC stations have calls starting with "CB", a prefix which, like "CA", is assigned to Chile. I suppose they get away with it because the stations cannot be heard in Chile (except by the most serious of DXers<grin>) - and they almost never use the calls on the air...

Unless the station is community based, I don't think it exsists.
Usually a Canadian radio station maintains 4 call letters, and the second one is limited to being an H, I, J, K, or F, and sometimes B.
 
Just a guess here... The call letters are not CACLNA. The calls are CLNA. The "CA" means Canada. Just my guess. ???
 
al_atl said:
Just a guess here... The call letters are not CACLNA. The calls are CLNA. The "CA" means Canada. Just my guess. ???

If the calls are CLNA, then it must be some sort of Community station.
Even then, I think the CRTC is very strict and would never grant a licence unless "Proper" calls are used.

Could it be a Pirate?
 
al_atl said:
Just a guess here... The call letters are not CACLNA. The calls are CLNA. The "CA" means Canada. Just my guess. ???

I do believe the CA means Canada.

The CL prefix belongs to Cuba. Canada gets CF through CK. (also CY/CZ, VX-VZ, possibly one or two more)

Twelve CBC stations are the only remaining 3-letter calls in Canada. Unless you count a station with a -FM or -TV suffix as a 3-letter call. (like CBL-FM or CKY-TV. The US FCC would consider these five-letter calls, not sure whether the CRTC/IC does, they probably don't even think it matters and they'd be right!) I *believe* only three private 3-letter calls ever existed (quiz: name them!) and two of the three only very recently disappeared, moving to FM.

There are many TV stations with five-letter calls even if you don't count the -TV suffix or the numbers attached to relay transmitters.

I note a few stations with "abherrent" calls in Canada -- for example, "CRC-DT-1".."CRC-DT-4" in Ottawa on channels 46 and 54, or "CBCSECADJ" on 97.3 in Vancouver. I doubt the CRTC authorized these stations but I'm pretty sure Industry Canada did; the Ottawa stations were involved in early ATSC testing before regular digital TV broadcasts began.

You can rest assured this 1210KHz station does not exist.
 
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