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Broadcasting & Cable article on classic TV shows

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Interesting article in the coming week's "Broadcasting & Cable" magazine regarding the success of old TV shows on local TV stations. It can be found at the magazine's website <www.broadcastingcable.com> but unfortunately that is a subscription-only site. For those interested, here are some excerpts:

> Oldies and Goodies
Evergreen shows can be money trees
By Allison Romano -- Broadcasting & Cable, 1/2/2006

> In nearly every local market, station managers struggle with counter-programming Oprah Winfrey's juggernaut. Competitors throw court shows or talk shows against her. But in Knoxville, Tenn., WVLT is enjoying success with a down-home approach: reruns of The Andy Griffith Show. It rarely beats Oprah but routinely pulls in a 4 household rating and sometimes even spikes to a 7 rating.

> In more than a dozen Southern markets, including Greensboro and Raleigh-Durham, N.C., and Macon, Ga., stations are running the 1960s hit and enjoying similar success. Other evergreens have the same magic.

> “Andy has almost a cult following in the South,” says WVLT General Manager Chris Baker.

> Little House on the Prairie, I Love Lucy and Matlock are also strong performers at some stations nationwide.

> In Raleigh, on UPN affiliate WRDC, Good Times averaged a 2.7 household rating at 11 p.m. in November, beating reruns of Friends and Seinfeld. [...]

My comment here: Can you imagine how much more those Friends & Seinfeld reruns cost compared to Good Times? Talk about a deal for WRDC...

> On the local level, loading up on evergreen product works for non-traditional affiliates, which have more programming hours to fill. LIN Television's WNDY Indianapolis, a UPN affiliate, packs its afternoons with classics and gets impressive numbers. A 12:30 p.m. ET run of I Love Lucy posted a 2.1 rating in November sweeps, better than Jerry Springer and Millionaire. Similarly, Matlock beats The Tyra Banks Show and Cops.

[...]

> Some independent stations devote the bulk of their schedule to the genre. In Chicago, Weigel Broadcasting relaunched its low-power outlet WWME as “Me-TV” and stocked up The Honeymooners, I Love Lucy, Bewitched and The Partridge Family. In Las Vegas, a town not usually associated with family values, independent KEEN sprinkles old shows between religious broadcasts. In the afternoon, it airs Little House on the Prairie, Flipper, Hazel and Green Acres.

> Going forward, as local TV stations launch new digital broadcast channels, viewers may have even more opportunity to watch old-time favorites. In Roanoke, Va., CBS affiliate WDBJ has created a general entertainment channel on one of its digital slots and offers classics like Little House and Andy Griffith. [...]

My comments again: Like many folks on this particular board, I believe that the classic TV strategy could be successful for more stations if they gave it a shot. In particular, I believe that these programs could be successful if given better promotion and good time slots. As an example, how many of us live in markets where three stations (typically, the Fox, UPN, and WB affiliates) are all running similar types of recent sitcom reruns in the early evening hours? Usually, the bottom station is attempting to compete against "The Simpsons" and "Friends" with second-tier product like "Yes Dear" or "Becker" -- and getting its butt kicked in the process. How much better might these stations do slotting in "Bewitched" or "Andy Griffith" instead?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Tom Desmond on 12/31/05 09:25 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> Interesting article in the coming week's "Broadcasting &
> Cable" magazine regarding the success of old TV shows on
> local TV stations. It can be found at the magazine's
> website but unfortunately that is a subscription-only site.
> For those interested, here are some excerpts:
>
> > Oldies and Goodies Evergreen shows can be money trees By
> Allison Romano -- Broadcasting & Cable, 1/2/2006
>
> > In nearly every local market, station managers struggle
> with counter-programming Oprah Winfrey's juggernaut.
> Competitors throw court shows or talk shows against her. But
> in Knoxville, Tenn., WVLT is enjoying success with a
> down-home approach: reruns of The Andy Griffith Show. It
> rarely beats Oprah but routinely pulls in a 4 household
> rating and sometimes even spikes to a 7 rating.
>
> > In more than a dozen Southern markets, including
> Greensboro and Raleigh-Durham, N.C., and Macon, Ga.,
> stations are running the 1960s hit and enjoying similar
> success. Other evergreens have the same magic.
>
> > “Andy has almost a cult following in the South,” says WVLT
> General Manager Chris Baker.
>
> > Little House on the Prairie, I Love Lucy and Matlock are
> also strong performers at some stations nationwide.
>
> > In Raleigh, on UPN affiliate WRDC, Good Times averaged a
> 2.7 household rating at 11 p.m. in November, beating reruns
> of Friends and Seinfeld. [...]
>
> My comment here: Can you imagine how much more those
> Friends & Seinfeld reruns cost compared to Good Times? Talk
> about a deal for WRDC...
>
> > On the local level, loading up on evergreen product works
> for non-traditional affiliates, which have more programming
> hours to fill. LIN Television's WNDY Indianapolis, a UPN
> affiliate, packs its afternoons with classics and gets
> impressive numbers. A 12:30 p.m. ET run of I Love Lucy
> posted a 2.1 rating in November sweeps, better than Jerry
> Springer and Millionaire. Similarly, Matlock beats The Tyra
> Banks Show and Cops.
>
> [...]
>
> > Some independent stations devote the bulk of their
> schedule to the genre. In Chicago, Weigel Broadcasting
> relaunched its low-power outlet WWME as “Me-TV” and stocked
> up The Honeymooners, I Love Lucy, Bewitched and The
> Partridge Family. In Las Vegas, a town not usually
> associated with family values, independent KEEN sprinkles
> old shows between religious broadcasts. In the afternoon, it
> airs Little House on the Prairie, Flipper, Hazel and Green
> Acres.
>
> > Going forward, as local TV stations launch new digital
> broadcast channels, viewers may have even more opportunity
> to watch old-time favorites. In Roanoke, Va., CBS affiliate
> WDBJ has created a general entertainment channel on one of
> its digital slots and offers classics like Little House and
> Andy Griffith. [...]
>
> My comments again: Like many folks on this particular
> board, I believe that the classic TV strategy could be
> successful for more stations if they gave it a shot. In
> particular, I believe that these programs could be
> successful if given better promotion and good time slots.
> As an example, how many of us live in markets where three
> stations (typically, the Fox, UPN, and WB affiliates) are
> all running similar types of recent sitcom reruns in the
> early evening hours? Usually, the bottom station is
> attempting to compete against "The Simpsons" and "Friends"
> with second-tier product like "Yes Dear" or "Becker" -- and
> getting its butt kicked in the process. How much better
> might these stations do slotting in "Bewitched" or "Andy
> Griffith" instead?
>

I keep hoping that if PAX/i eventually folds that maybe it will open the opportunity for more classic TV shows on their formar stations, unless they decide to stay with home shopping or infomercials.
 
Those older sitcoms and dramas have something about them you can't find in many "Friends" or "Yes, Dear" episodes-good writing. I'd rather watch the upteenth rerunning of a Dick Van Dyke episode over a new episode of "Will & Grace" or "According to Jim".

Another factor-when you include cable/satellite, how many sources of "Seinfeld" and "Home Improvement" can one take? You can catch a program on TBS as well as your local WB affiliate, or WGN SuperStation. What you can't catch are multiple program feeds for "The Honeymooners", "Good Times", etc.

Plus, the release of many classic shows on DVDs seems to be putting the spotlight on programs that, heaven forbid, weren't in production before 1999. Hence, a whole new audience may be out there.

And I'm no old fart who wishes for the "good 'ol days". As a child, I preferred "Carol Burnett & Friends" reruns to current episodes of "Full House".
 
> Interesting article in the coming week's "Broadcasting &
> Cable" magazine regarding the success of old TV shows on
> local TV stations. It can be found at the magazine's
> website but unfortunately that is a subscription-only site.
> For those interested, here are some excerpts:
>
> > Oldies and Goodies Evergreen shows can be money trees By
> Allison Romano -- Broadcasting & Cable, 1/2/2006
>
> > In nearly every local market, station managers struggle
> with counter-programming Oprah Winfrey's juggernaut.
> Competitors throw court shows or talk shows against her. But
> in Knoxville, Tenn., WVLT is enjoying success with a
> down-home approach: reruns of The Andy Griffith Show. It
> rarely beats Oprah but routinely pulls in a 4 household
> rating and sometimes even spikes to a 7 rating.
>
> > In more than a dozen Southern markets, including
> Greensboro and Raleigh-Durham, N.C., and Macon, Ga.,
> stations are running the 1960s hit and enjoying similar
> success. Other evergreens have the same magic.
>
> > “Andy has almost a cult following in the South,” says WVLT
> General Manager Chris Baker.
>
> > Little House on the Prairie, I Love Lucy and Matlock are
> also strong performers at some stations nationwide.
>
> > In Raleigh, on UPN affiliate WRDC, Good Times averaged a
> 2.7 household rating at 11 p.m. in November, beating reruns
> of Friends and Seinfeld. [...]
>
> My comment here: Can you imagine how much more those
> Friends & Seinfeld reruns cost compared to Good Times? Talk
> about a deal for WRDC...
>
> > On the local level, loading up on evergreen product works
> for non-traditional affiliates, which have more programming
> hours to fill. LIN Television's WNDY Indianapolis, a UPN
> affiliate, packs its afternoons with classics and gets
> impressive numbers. A 12:30 p.m. ET run of I Love Lucy
> posted a 2.1 rating in November sweeps, better than Jerry
> Springer and Millionaire. Similarly, Matlock beats The Tyra
> Banks Show and Cops.
>
> [...]
>
> > Some independent stations devote the bulk of their
> schedule to the genre. In Chicago, Weigel Broadcasting
> relaunched its low-power outlet WWME as “Me-TV” and stocked
> up The Honeymooners, I Love Lucy, Bewitched and The
> Partridge Family. In Las Vegas, a town not usually
> associated with family values, independent KEEN sprinkles
> old shows between religious broadcasts. In the afternoon, it
> airs Little House on the Prairie, Flipper, Hazel and Green
> Acres.
>
> > Going forward, as local TV stations launch new digital
> broadcast channels, viewers may have even more opportunity
> to watch old-time favorites. In Roanoke, Va., CBS affiliate
> WDBJ has created a general entertainment channel on one of
> its digital slots and offers classics like Little House and
> Andy Griffith. [...]
>
> My comments again: Like many folks on this particular
> board, I believe that the classic TV strategy could be
> successful for more stations if they gave it a shot. In
> particular, I believe that these programs could be
> successful if given better promotion and good time slots.
> As an example, how many of us live in markets where three
> stations (typically, the Fox, UPN, and WB affiliates) are
> all running similar types of recent sitcom reruns in the
> early evening hours? Usually, the bottom station is
> attempting to compete against "The Simpsons" and "Friends"
> with second-tier product like "Yes Dear" or "Becker" -- and
> getting its butt kicked in the process. How much better
> might these stations do slotting in "Bewitched" or "Andy
> Griffith" instead?
>


In Philly, it seems neither WB17 or UPN57 is slotting any classic TV programs, or even regular comedies during the day. OTOH, I know WWOR runs Charles in Charge, Who's the Boss among other shows. KTTV-11 (FOX) in L.A. seems to been running I Love Lucy in daytime for the last 7 years or more. I know that the latter, cuz I used to receive FOX-W(KTTV) on Dish Net, here on the East coast.

WGTW-48 used to carry some programs like Hawaii Five-O, but their focus wasn't really into classic TV. I wish WMCN would see the light, get out of infomercials, and be an indy, now. Maybe they could succeed running Andy Griffith, I Love Lucy, etc.

WB17's lineup consists of Maury (3x), Montel (2x) and Jerry Springer (3x). WB17 hasn't run classic TV or any comedy in daytime, since the 90's.

UPN57 has most of the court room shows.

FOX29 has MASH, but that's it.

There is WFMZ-DT that reaches well into Philly and on satellite/cable thru must-carry. They carry The Fugitive, Happy Days, Laverne&Shirley, Mork&Mindy and The Brady Bunch daily. Those shows are nice to have around during the daytime, over what's on the other stations. TV Land alters their schedule way too frequent.

I know DirecTV carries Lifetime Real Women, Hallmark, World Harvest TV(religious), TV One and WGN, that are not on Comcast, and these extra channels provide a few more classic shows not on TV Land. Though none of these channels really are meant as classic TV cable nets.

With a DVR, these classic shows can be taped. But I don't have DirecTV, and even with TiVo( I have Comcast with DVR), I tape too many other things. And, then there are the DVD sets, but that involves the viewer spending money($40 or more) for something available free, to some.
 
Also, local TV stations could purchase the rights to older classic shows for less money than to buy the rights to more recent off-network fare.
 
> My comments again: Like many folks on this particular
> board, I believe that the classic TV strategy could be
> successful for more stations if they gave it a shot. In
> particular, I believe that these programs could be
> successful if given better promotion and good time slots.
> As an example, how many of us live in markets where three
> stations (typically, the Fox, UPN, and WB affiliates) are
> all running similar types of recent sitcom reruns in the
> early evening hours? Usually, the bottom station is
> attempting to compete against "The Simpsons" and "Friends"
> with second-tier product like "Yes Dear" or "Becker" -- and
> getting its butt kicked in the process. How much better
> might these stations do slotting in "Bewitched" or "Andy
> Griffith" instead?
>

Here in the Tupelo/Columbus/West Point, MS market, the local CBS station, WCBI-4-Columbus, airs "Andy Griffith" in the 6:30 prime access slot up against "Wheel Of Fortune" on WTVA-9-Tupelo and "Millionaire" on WTVA's LMA, WKDH-45-ABC. From what I've heard, they have been running it successfully for years. Incidently, WCBI also airs re-runs of "Friends" at 4:00 or 4:30 weekdays against Oprah on WTVA.

WKDH, meanwhile, runs "Who's The Boss" in the afternoons in between "Malcom In The Middle" and a couple other newer sitcoms (I think "That 70s Show" is one).
 
> Also, local TV stations could purchase the rights to older
> classic shows for less money than to buy the rights to more
> recent off-network fare.
>
I agree there is an untapped market for these old shows. But I think the best example is WWME-CA in Chicago. You will note these shows are airing on a low power station and also as a subchannel of WCIU-TV (parent to WWME-CA)

I think the profit margin just isn't there for a full power station. But I think as a supplemental market these shows are great.

With DVD sets coming out though these older shows are going to be bought more and more. I currently get DVD sets of "The Simpsons" for less than $20.00 a season from used CD stores. And I have picked up "Dick Van Dyke" even cheaper.

So I see these old shows as a GREAT marketing piece to a multichannel station that does not want or cannot afford HDTV broadcasts.

Unfortunately infomercials are simply a cash cow. They are almost 100% profit for the station. So that will discourage displacement of them for old TV shows on main stations.<P ID="signature">______________
Once I figured out the meaning of life....Then I forgot to write it down.</P>
 
WWME ratings?

> I agree there is an untapped market for these old shows. But
> I think the best example is WWME-CA in Chicago. You will
> note these shows are airing on a low power station and also
> as a subchannel of WCIU-TV (parent to WWME-CA)

WWME-CA is a station that is frequently discussed here, and looking at their schedule, it looks like an excellent station. But has anyone ever seen any actual ratings for this station?
 
> > Also, local TV stations could purchase the rights to older
>
> > classic shows for less money than to buy the rights to
> more
> > recent off-network fare.
> >
> I agree there is an untapped market for these old shows. But
> I think the best example is WWME-CA in Chicago. You will
> note these shows are airing on a low power station and also
> as a subchannel of WCIU-TV (parent to WWME-CA)
>
> I think the profit margin just isn't there for a full power
> station. But I think as a supplemental market these shows
> are great.

Equity Broadcasting in Little Rock has created "RTN"-- the Retro TV Network.
They're running classic shows on several of their stations around the country...
KEGS, Las Vegas... KCBU, Salt Lake City... WNGS, Buffalo... KDEV, Denver... KYPX, Little Rock. (I think this is an accurate list of RTN stations, Equity seems to change things frequently.)

Here's the schedule from Titan TV for WNGS for Monday, January 2nd...

7:00 AM Happy Days Richie Branches Out
7:30 AM Laverne & Shirley Supermarket Sweep
8:00 AM Brady Bunch Today I Am a Freshman
8:30 AM Family Ties Family Ties Vacation
9:00 AM Beverly Hillbillies Jethro in the Reserve
9:30 AM Gomer Pyle, USMC Gomer, the Recruiter
10:00 AM My Three Sons The Heartbeat
10:30 AM Hogan's Heroes An Evening of Generals
11:00 AM Wild Wild West Night of the Arrow
12:00 PM Hawaii Five-O Strangers in Our Own Land
1:00 PM Happy Days The Lemon
1:30 PM Laverne & Shirley Bachelor Party
2:00 PM Brady Bunch 54-40 and Fight
2:30 PM Family Ties The Way We Were
3:00 PM Beverly Hillbillies That Old Black Magic
3:30 PM Gomer Pyle, USMC Guest in the Barracks
4:00 PM My Three Sons Red Tape Romance
4:30 PM Hogan's Heroes At Last---Schultz Knows Something
5:00 PM Kojak Die Before They Wake
6:00 PM A-Team Harder than It Looks
7:00 PM Quincy Quincy's Wedding
8:00 PM Hawaii Five-O The Grandstand Play
9:00 PM Magnum, P.I. AAPI
10:00 PM Rockford Files Find Me if You Can
 
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