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Browns and Indians on Cleveland Radio

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CleveFan

This is the first night with the Browns on The Fan, WKNR and WNCX. Yet, the Tribe is on WMMS and WTAM, two former flagships of the Browns.

Who do you think would score the bigger audience and how did the Browns sound on their new homes in your opinion?

I thought they sounded good on the FM, but KNR was a little spotty at times.
 
The distribution across the network was interesting.

WNCX had the most robust and wide audio, while affiliate stations sounded like poo. WONE/Akron, WYFM/Youngstown and WHBC-FM/Canton were all running the game with an obvious audio difference between the network audio and local audio. Network commercials were playing in mono and sounded like a low bit rate. These were followed by a local liner screaming out of the speakers. Often the audio of the announcers would become distorted on the affiliate stations, but not WNCX.

If you know anything about ISDN it sounded like feed from the studios to the uplink was set to a low algorithm like G.722 and had no audio compression/limiting (Think of the difference between a sound file recorded at a 96,000 bit rate compared to an file recorded at 22,050) I've heard high school football broadcasts with better audio quality.

and Reghi is no Jim Donovan.
 
Oh my god, "The Fifth Quarter" was horrible last night.

The Browns need to do like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and move all production in-house with the pre and post game shows using talent that is hired and paid for by the Browns themselves rather than using talent that works for WKNR.
 
FM 100 Means Music said:
Oh my god, "The Fifth Quarter" was horrible last night.

The Browns need to do like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and move all production in-house with the pre and post game shows using talent that is hired and paid for by the Browns themselves rather than using talent that works for WKNR.
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"5th Quarter" is a WKNR local show hosted by Greg Brinda.

92.3 The Fan has the network postgame show hosted by Jeff Phelps and Dustin Fox.

Ouside of Cleveland, the network affiliates get both the pregame and postgame show.

92.3 has to "roll their own" pregame show as WKNR has the network pregame show, and it's vice versa postgame.
 
John Baylor said:
The distribution across the network was interesting.

WNCX had the most robust and wide audio, while affiliate stations sounded like poo. WONE/Akron, WYFM/Youngstown and WHBC-FM/Canton were all running the game with an obvious audio difference between the network audio and local audio. Network commercials were playing in mono and sounded like a low bit rate. These were followed by a local liner screaming out of the speakers. Often the audio of the announcers would become distorted on the affiliate stations, but not WNCX.

If you know anything about ISDN it sounded like feed from the studios to the uplink was set to a low algorithm like G.722 and had no audio compression/limiting (Think of the difference between a sound file recorded at a 96,000 bit rate compared to an file recorded at 22,050) I've heard high school football broadcasts with better audio quality.

and Reghi is no Jim Donovan.
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Hopefully, the kinks get worked out before September 8, when the games will actually count.

I always felt Mike Snyder did a decent job holding down the fort for Donovan during preseason games.
 
Mike Snyder is good but no way he goes anywhere near the Browns network with Clear Channel not holding the rights. Jeff Phelps is a good choice for Pre and Post game shows on the network as well as halftime. Hopefully Rizzo can tone down the clownish and buffoonery that seems to go with his shows when doing a network pre game show. Jerrod Cherry provides excellent analysis as always and Dustin Fox (who I have been hard on) actually is a perfect fit for the Post game show.
 
SonoSational18 said:
"and Reghi is no Jim Donovan."
... and neither one of them can hold a candle to Tom Hamilton, Joe Tait, or the late Nev Chandler.
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Tait or Chandler, maybe. Hamilton is falling way too much in love with screaming and the constant hyperbole over everything, especially now that the Indians are contending. It's also painfully obvious listening to other teams' broadcasts that he has no interest in creating any kind of chemistry with Jim Rosenhaus.
 
I found that interesting as well Schmave about Hamilton and Rosenhaus. I have noticed when Rosenhaus is doing the play by play it seems Hamilton takes those innings off and you rarely hear him at all till it is his time to do play by play again. Rosenhaus gets a bad rap here with many people criticizing his play by play. I think he does a decent job, Hamilton does yell a lot. My favorite baseball play by play guys were Joe Tait and Herb Score. Herb even with his goofs and gaffes brought a lot of knowledge to the broadcast.
 
Unfortunately, under the new set-up on radio, the Browns can no longer be heard on the airwaves in Southwestern Ohio. Not only is there now no station here on the PNC Browns Radio Network, but with WKNR the AM outlet in Cleveland, its power doesn't take it to night-time points like WTAM, the previous AM the Browns used. Of course, with the Indians playing at basically the same time on Thursday night, it would not have aired the Browns anyway.

The only way that I was able to hear the Browns' radio feed was via the Browns' website. Interestingly, there was little delay on it and the TV coverage.

It's the first time in my memory (and that covers well over 50 years of radio listening) that Southwestern Ohio doesn't have a station in this area picking up the Browns' games and there are many fans of the team here going all the way back to 1946.
 
I hope you'll be able to hear all Browns games via their website ... unless Dayton does get an affiliate, that is, and even so, you might still need the web depending on the frequency, time of day, etc. Some websites have extremely small delays, such as MLB. Their Gameday Audio feeds sometimes are ahead of various TV feeds, which I think is remarkable. I've heard Blackhawks games on WGN radio's feed that are as much as 45-60 seconds behind TV.
I didn't get to listen to the Browns Thursday night ... was too busy with work and paying attention to the Bengals. I am curious to listen to at least some of the next game. Was it a clean network feed or a particular station they were streaming?
As for Rosenhaus, yes, he gets a bum rap from some Indians fans because he isn't Tom Hamilton, and that's a shame. I enjoyed Herb Score in the same vein as Harry Caray (I'm a Cubs fan so I am biased there). Overall, the broadcasts have gone downhill since Matt Underwood was given a prominent role. He sounded like his dog was shot in the 12th inning the other night, and usually sounds like he's five seconds from just dozing off at any given time anyway.
 
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