Bruce Drennan Returns July 5th

[in_the_quasi_biz]

Heres a release from SportsTalkCleveland.com


Bruce Drennan Returns July 5 to sportstalkCLEVELAND.com
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Bruce Drennan begins broadcasting on sportstalkCLEVELAND.com Tuesday July 5, 2005.

His show will air M-F 10a - 12p and will talk sports & entertainment on a local and national level.

Bruce's additional duties will include programming duties for the station.

Paul Belfi Quotes:

'Who better in the city of Cleveland knows talk radio than Bruce Drennan? Bruce is a passionate talk show host and can talk about a multitude of things from sports to politics to entertainment. I am excited that Bruce is joining our staff and I am twice as excited that he will be handling programming duties for the station as well. It will be refreshing to work with a person in programming who understands sports talk as well as entertainment and delivering a product that the fans really want to hear.'

'Bruce has a loyal following from a fan perspective and advertising perspective. I can't begin to tell you the number of emails I have received asking that Bruce return to broadcasting. I am happy on a professional and personal level that Bruce Drennan is with us.'

http://p097.ezboard.com/fsportstalkcleveland44136frm1.showMessage?topicID=2.topic

 

[ajhenderson]

> that Bruce return to broadcasting.

In this case, "broadcasting".

 

[Paul_Belfi]

I'm excited about Bruce coming back... I know he's pumped too! It'll be fun and different.

I hope you all can join in on the show - it promises to be informative and entertaining as hell.

Paul




> Heres a release from SportsTalkCleveland.com
>
>
> Bruce Drennan Returns July 5 to sportstalkCLEVELAND.com
--------------------> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Bruce Drennan begins broadcasting on
> sportstalkCLEVELAND.com Tuesday July 5, 2005.
>
> His show will air M-F 10a - 12p and will talk sports &
> entertainment on a local and national level.
>
> Bruce's additional duties will include programming duties
> for the station.
>
> Paul Belfi Quotes:
>
> 'Who better in the city of Cleveland knows talk radio than
> Bruce Drennan? Bruce is a passionate talk show host and can
> talk about a multitude of things from sports to politics to
> entertainment. I am excited that Bruce is joining our staff
> and I am twice as excited that he will be handling
> programming duties for the station as well. It will be
> refreshing to work with a person in programming who
> understands sports talk as well as entertainment and
> delivering a product that the fans really want to hear.'
>
> 'Bruce has a loyal following from a fan perspective and
> advertising perspective. I can't begin to tell you the
> number of emails I have received asking that Bruce return to
> broadcasting. I am happy on a professional and personal
> level that Bruce Drennan is with us.'
>
http://p097.ezboard.c> om/fsportstalkcleveland44136frm1.showMessage?topicID=2.topic
>

 

[westsidecleve]

will Bruce "man up?"

now i want to know if bruce will "man up" and discuss his departure from KNR and the cleveland airwaves...? on his show he would get on athletes or not owning up to their mistakes or actions, so now bruce , are you going to fess up, or give us a catagoric denial if you did NOT do the things you are accused of? i truely enjoyed your show on KNR (much more than any other personality they can offer locally) now is the time to talk, and not act like nothing has happened!


give it to us straight....it is either "Yeah I did commit these crimes, and I am man enough to take any punishment that is coming to me."
or

"I did not do any of these things which i am accused of, and i will fight to clear my good name."

btw,,, maybe you should cut ties with "amazing tickets" after what he has been up to.....alledgedly....


wsc

 

[JohnnyMorganWXJX]

Re: will Bruce "man up?"

> now i want to know if bruce will "man up" and discuss his
> departure from KNR and the cleveland airwaves...? on his
> show he would get on athletes or not owning up to their
> mistakes or actions, so now bruce , are you going to fess
> up, or give us a catagoric denial if you did NOT do the
> things you are accused of? i truely enjoyed your show on
> KNR (much more than any other personality they can offer
> locally) now is the time to talk, and not act like nothing
> has happened!
>
>
> give it to us straight....it is either "Yeah I did commit
> these crimes, and I am man enough to take any punishment
> that is coming to me."
> or
>
> "I did not do any of these things which i am accused of, and
> i will fight to clear my good name."
>
> btw,,, maybe you should cut ties with "amazing tickets"
> after what he has been up to.....alledgedly....
>
>
> wsc
>

Come on...you well know that it's not that simple, especially since federal and/or state criminal charges are still open and available. His legal counsel, I hope, told him not to comment at all about the accusations and charges (if any). If he did, it could be used in court against him--not a pretty situation.

Plus, there's a big difference between Bruce Drennan's outstanding legal troubles and commenting on them, and taking a sports figure to task for a fielding mistake, or a past indiscretion that has been adjudicated.

But, what I'd like to see is Bruce Drennan actually talking about sports, which he did for so many years before he got the showtune-pop culture bug. He was great as a sports talk host, and went downhill when he started talking about other things.

 

[westsidecleve]

Re: will Bruce "man up?"

> Come on...you well know that it's not that simple,
> especially since federal and/or state criminal charges are
> still open and available. His legal counsel, I hope, told
> him not to comment at all about the accusations and charges
> (if any). If he did, it could be used in court against
> him--not a pretty situation.
>
> Plus, there's a big difference between Bruce Drennan's
> outstanding legal troubles and commenting on them, and
> taking a sports figure to task for a fielding mistake, or a
> past indiscretion that has been adjudicated.
>
> But, what I'd like to see is Bruce Drennan actually talking
> about sports, which he did for so many years before he got
> the showtune-pop culture bug. He was great as a sports talk
> host, and went downhill when he started talking about other
> things.
>
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i would disagree, while a lawyer will tell him to be quiet, what harm could come from either admitting, "yes, i did these things", and NO harm could come from telling us "he did NOT do these things" (unless he is lying)..... if he did it, he should take the punishment, and not try to wheel and deal with the DA for a deal if he helps against others in trouble.....

... bruce has jumped on others for criminal behaviors, (dui, assault, drugs)..so own up to his mistakes...

....finally i agree that bruce is a fabulous sports (mostly baseball) talker, although i think he thinks he is WAY more baseball smart than most baseball fans(which he is not), he does a good job describing the details of baseball that sometimes get lost....and i actually DO enjoy his movie/actor reviews and comments.....

 

[JohnnyMorganWXJX]

Re: will Bruce "man up?"

> i would disagree, while a lawyer will tell him to be quiet,
> what harm could come from either admitting, "yes, i did
> these things",

Lots. If he admitted he did those things, on the air no less, it can (and will) be used against him in any prosecutions that may arise related to this activity. Called a statement against interest, it can be used against any criminal defendant.

> and NO harm could come from telling us "he
> did NOT do these things" (unless he is lying)

Again, harm could come from it--if it can be shown to somehow implicate him in activity that he publicly disavows knowledge of, etc. Same statement against interest thing.

> ..... if he did
> it, he should take the punishment, and not try to wheel and
> deal with the DA for a deal if he helps against others in
> trouble.....

The criminal justice system is based on a belief of innocence until proven guilty. Whether a criminal defendant committed the deed or act and "should take the punishment" is a personal moral decision. But, in the criminal justice system the the prosecution bears the burden of proving each and element of the crime--the defendant is under no obligation to make the prosecution's job easier. Any statement admitting guilt, etc. should be used only if the defendant understands the consequences, etc.

If the prosecution has a weak case against a defendant, why make their job easier? If you have doubt established, don't throw the state a lob for them to smash you out of the park.

Deals are the way of the criminal justice world--most criminal cases don't go to trial; they are either plea bargained or dismissed. So, just because you may find objections with a defendant's moral belief of guilt, that does not mean that he should, ab initio, forego his constitutional right to trial and have each element proven against him. That proof does not mean the defendant must admit anything--he needs only appear and establish doubt in the prosecution's case.

For those reasons, I doubt Drennan will say anything about--other than it's still on-going (or not, if it's over), and that his counsel advises him not to say anything else. That's his own personal decision.

And there's a difference between jumping on someone for a criminal behaviour, and asking for a declaration of guilt or innocence. You can believe anything you want about a person or their actions--and you can even speak out against the alleged act. But you shouldn't urge someone to declare their guilt or innocence when it is against their interest.

You want the story, get the court pleadings. They're public records.

Carl B. Stokes Federal Courthouse, 801 W. Superior Avenue.

 

[OldAkronite]

Bruce, Well, Can't

> give it to us straight....it is either "Yeah I did commit
> these crimes, and I am man enough to take any punishment
> that is coming to me."
> or
>
> "I did not do any of these things which i am accused of, and
> i will fight to clear my good name."

I was not going to post anything on this thread, but one point:

He can't. He really, really can't. All he can say on the radio, on an Internet webcast or even if for some reason he showed up here, is whatever he said on his return show on WKNR. That's it. The lawyers have the rest nailed down, and until his case is resolved, he can't say any more than that. Statements are picked apart and if he even said ONE word that could be jumped on, lawyers would jump on it.

It's an interesting pickup for Mr. Belfi and STC. It gets them some notice picking up a guy who until recently was doing mornings on the market's only over-air sports talk station. But I can't help but wonder: How much of this, for Paul, is a "zing" at 'KNR, since their relationship didn't quite end amicably?

Since you're here, Paul, you don't have to answer that if you don't want to. It's just a rhetorical question...

-OA

 

[cxn28]

Re: will Bruce "man up?"

> > now i want to know if bruce will "man up" and discuss his
> > departure from KNR and the cleveland airwaves...? on his
> > show he would get on athletes or not owning up to their
> > mistakes or actions, so now bruce , are you going to fess
> > up, or give us a catagoric denial if you did NOT do the
> > things you are accused of? i truely enjoyed your show on
> > KNR (much more than any other personality they can offer
> > locally) now is the time to talk, and not act like
> nothing
> > has happened!
> >
> >
> > give it to us straight....it is either "Yeah I did commit
> > these crimes, and I am man enough to take any punishment
> > that is coming to me."
> > or
> >
> > "I did not do any of these things which i am accused of,
> and
> > i will fight to clear my good name."
> >
> > btw,,, maybe you should cut ties with "amazing tickets"
> > after what he has been up to.....alledgedly....
> >
> >
> > wsc
> >
>
> Come on...you well know that it's not that simple,
> especially since federal and/or state criminal charges are
> still open and available. His legal counsel, I hope, told
> him not to comment at all about the accusations and charges
> (if any). If he did, it could be used in court against
> him--not a pretty situation.
>
> Plus, there's a big difference between Bruce Drennan's
> outstanding legal troubles and commenting on them, and
> taking a sports figure to task for a fielding mistake, or a
> past indiscretion that has been adjudicated.
>
> But, what I'd like to see is Bruce Drennan actually talking
> about sports, which he did for so many years before he got
> the showtune-pop culture bug. He was great as a sports talk
> host, and went downhill when he started talking about other
> things.
>

how small is the minority that liked the non sports drennan? i loved it.

 

[NeilParks]

> I hope you all can join in on the show - it promises to be
> informative and entertaining as hell.

If I happen to be sitting by a computer with speakers and an internet connection when he's on I'll be sure to try it sometime.

 

[network]

Re: will Bruce "man up?"

> i would disagree, while a lawyer will tell him to be quiet,
> what harm could come from either admitting, "yes, i did
> these things", and NO harm could come from telling us "he
> did NOT do these things" (unless he is lying).....

Are you serious with this crap? You go against your lawyer and decide to run your mouth to all of NE Ohio, you WILL BE selling your own butt up the river. AND WITHOUT a lawyer. Guaranteed. If you don't think for a minute everyone involved wouldn't be listening and recording every single second and every single word Drennan speaks, you need to educate yourself a lil' more.

> if he did
> it, he should take the punishment, and not try to wheel and
> deal with the DA for a deal if he helps against others in

It's easy for you to say this sitting at your computer, but if you -- or anyone else -- was in the exact same situation as Drennan, you'd be wheeling and dealing as well. And spare us the "no I wouldn't" response because you'd be lying. Just read the paper.

> ... bruce has jumped on others for criminal behaviors, (dui,
> assault, drugs)..so own up to his mistakes..

Umm...we're not talking about a DUI here. The stakes (pun intended) are alot higher than not being able to recite the ABC's in order or walk a straight line.

Plus, it's none of our business!

 

[nate81]

Re: will Bruce "man up?"

My lone comment here:

I to liked Bruce as only a sports/talker, right up to when WTAM let him go. It only made whenever he deviated from sports more striking, and yes, a bit of a novelty. (The Sunday morning show that he did following Princess Di's death back in '97 easily comes to mind...)

I have no doubt that people will listen to Bruce's new show at STC, but it may not be for the reason that Bruce and Paul have in mind here. That's the inherent risk, and it would exist for anyone that would have hired Bruce - or if WKNR had kept him.

Until it's finally resolved one way or the other, this mess will hang over Bruce's head like nothing I want to imagine in my lifetime.

Court Clerk: (yelling at Curley) "DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR!?!"
Curley: "No, but I know all the words!"

- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio

http://www.lorainccc.edu</P>

 

[westsidecleve]

Re: will Bruce "man up?"

i hate to tell you, if i did a crime, and was arrested, i would admit it...just because most people wouldn't doesn't mean that ALL would not.... it is called being accountable... forunately i don't engage in illegal activities, do i don't have to worry about it...

btw,, it is our business , because bruce has spent years and years convincing us to trust his reputation and use companies and services that he backs and stands behind.... if he is a shady character, that brings all his testimonial ads into question..... especially now that we know what amazing tickets is accused of....


i guess i am an idealist.. i just wish someone would be accountable for their actions....

 

[network]

Still Not Getting It

> i hate to tell you, if i did a crime, and was arrested, i
> would admit it...just because most people wouldn't doesn't
> mean that ALL would not.... it is called being
> accountable... forunately i don't engage in illegal
> activities, do i don't have to worry about it...

Well, good for you...but wheeling and dealing to spend less time in the slammer and/or save a few thousand dollars in fines doesn't mean you're not being held accountable.

> btw,, it is our business , because bruce has spent years and
> years convincing us to trust his reputation and use
> companies and services that he backs and stands behind....

Trust his reputation when it comes to what you have trust in him for -- sports talk. The crime(s) he is/are allegedly accused of should have absolutely no factor on whether you trust him for sports. You'd have a point if he was doing some sort of Gambling For Dummies show or anything related to legalize gambling/betting, etc.

And I really hate to break the reality of this to you, but , as much as you would like to believe it, it is not any of your business! Or mine. Or the other people reading this post. This is a misconception among alot of people in this industry. Just because someone is on the air doesn't make their personal life and what's happening within public business. Hell, just look at when someone leaves a station. People want to know what happened. Again, it's none of anyone's freaking business.

> if he is a shady character, that brings all his testimonial
> ads into question..... especially now that we know what
> amazing tickets is accused of....

Again, how?! Is his doing ads for Thistledown or Northfield Park or how to beat the odds in Vegas or Atlantic City or the weekend charity poker thing going on in the Flats? If he's doing an ad for a men's wardrobe place, you have reason not to trust him because of his current problems? Problems that have absolutely nothing to do with men's clothing? That's stupid (unless he's tying it in to a brand of boxers that gives him good luck at the tables LOL).

Who cares if he's shady. Almost everyone has a shady side to them. How long has management been throwing their staff into the line of fire instead of taking the shots themselves? Let's not even go that far...look at many of the people all over this forum. They won't hesistant talking ish about someone they don't even know.

If Mr. Drennan wants to address his situation when he's legally able to, then he will. If he doesn't, that is HIS choice. The only people he owes answers to are his family and those he hurt. No one else. Not even you.

 

[Paul_Belfi]

Re: Bruce, Well, Can't

I'm happy to answer the question OA...

Bruce Drennan is a friend who I have been chasing to get on STC since he parted company with 1100 3+ years ago.

As fate would have it we both ended up being with 850 and as such he was with STC via our mutual relationship with 850.

I've always wanted to have Bruce on STC because I have a high regard for his ability and his appeal to listeners and advertisers.

Most people reading this won't believe it but it's nothing more or less.

Paul


> > give it to us straight....it is either "Yeah I did commit
> > these crimes, and I am man enough to take any punishment
> > that is coming to me."
> > or
> >
> > "I did not do any of these things which i am accused of,
> and
> > i will fight to clear my good name."
>
> I was not going to post anything on this thread, but one
> point:
>
> He can't. He really, really can't. All he can say on the
> radio, on an Internet webcast or even if for some reason he
> showed up here, is whatever he said on his return show on
> WKNR. That's it. The lawyers have the rest nailed down,
> and until his case is resolved, he can't say any more than
> that. Statements are picked apart and if he even said ONE
> word that could be jumped on, lawyers would jump on it.
>
> It's an interesting pickup for Mr. Belfi and STC. It gets
> them some notice picking up a guy who until recently was
> doing mornings on the market's only over-air sports talk
> station. But I can't help but wonder: How much of this,
> for Paul, is a "zing" at 'KNR, since their relationship
> didn't quite end amicably?
>
> Since you're here, Paul, you don't have to answer that if
> you don't want to. It's just a rhetorical question...
>
> -OA
>

 

[Paul_Belfi]

LOL... perhaps if you joined everyone else in the 21st century you will be enjoying his show.

Paul


> > I hope you all can join in on the show - it promises to be
>
> > informative and entertaining as hell.
>
> If I happen to be sitting by a computer with speakers and an
> internet connection when he's on I'll be sure to try it
> sometime.
>

 

[OldAkronite]

Re: Bruce, Well, Can't

> Most people reading this won't believe it but it's nothing
> more or less.

Oh, Paul...I believe it. Even though Bruce may or may not be my favorite host (no surprise to regular readers here), he is a big name in sports talk in the market, and even if you hadn't had any personal relationship with him, it's a huge pickup for a non-broadcast outlet.

But of course, considering how things ended with you and WKNR, this pickup is probably extra special for you. (No, I'm not asking for a reply there. ) Even so, it's a no-brainer for you to do this, and the situation has presented itself to you.

Best of luck to you, to Bruce and for the future of STC.com.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
My NEW blog is at Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>