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Buh, Bye Alan Colmes: Sirius Boots Him, XM Moves Him

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dampier

Sirius yanked the plug on Fox News altogether last night after refusing to pay at least a 250% rate increase for the TV audio channel + commit to a multiyear carriage agreement for the newly launching Fox News Radio. Sirius figures they can live without all of the noisy sound effects that obliterate the TV soundtrack when rebroadcast and they can do without John "You'll Answer to God" Gibson and Tony "Snowjob" Snow. They would be right, especially after a totally jammed call center from thousands of new Sirius subscribers coming for Stern. A few right wing blogs are trying to organize a boycott of Sirius for booting Fox, but Sirius clearly could care less with the megabucks they are raking in from Stern subscribers.

Buh bye Alan Colmes and all the others from Sirius. Too bad, so sad. Fox needs to cut prices and stop trying to force feed their radio network on Sirius and then I'm sure they'll be back.

XM AAR subscribers can rejoice this week as well as the Vichy Collaborator Alan Colmes is booted off the AAR channel to join the new Fox News Radio channel launching later this week. Finally we'll be able to hear Mike Malloy live, and that is going to cause whiplash for a lot of AAR listeners because Colmes is night to Malloy's day. Let me pick up from a post mwebster made:

> I have not watched Hannity and Colmes - I don't even have
> FNC selected as one of the channels I receive on my
> satellite receiver. I have heard his radio show and I
> wasn't impressed. He seemed rambling in his monologues,
> interviews and phone interactions, and not that well
> prepared.

Which is precisely why most liberals consider him totally ineffective, especially with Hannity who is clearly running the show. Hannity follows the "rules" when it suits him - Colmes -always- follows them, when he gets a word in edgewise. That reinforces the image of liberals as weak-kneed non-confrontational wimps, and Colmes even looks the part.

Alan Colmes will never be trusted, much less respected by anyone in the progressive community until he stands up to Hannity and once, just once, calls him a liar or takes the kind of liberties that Hannity takes every single show. Colmes' radio show is finally being booted off XM's AAR channel this week, and good riddance. He'll be a part of the new Fox News Radio lineup on XM launching this week, and he'll be talking to conservatives and a handful of liberals who don't know any better.

Down with ineffective "safe" liberals. I'd dare Hannity to let a Stephanie Miller or Randi Rhodes co-host just one night. Right now, Fox News' idea of a debate show is something right out of the old days of Radio Moscow. "On the left, a Communist. On the right, a Communist with a stutter and attention deficit disorder. Let's play Softball."
 
Dampier twists things again

Do not take my comments out of context. You keep trying to twist things to suit your viewpoint. I made no comment about Hannity and Colmes, a program I have never watched.

It was evident as soon as AAR got into bed with XM Radio that Colmes' days on the channel were numbered. AAR showed their complete lack of integretity when they "orphaned" their listeners on Sirius. But this is what happens with an organization run by political hacks and a record company (BLEEP). Wonder if Goldberg's name will come up in Elliot Spitzer's payola investigation, too?

I don't get your attachment to AAR - the mouthpiece of the DLC. Pro-war (we support the troops but Bush could do a better job running things) and Pro-Israel (anti-Palestinian). Any true liberal would gag at the thought. If LBJ and his ilk were still around, he'd love AAR. Not all neo-cons left the Democratic Party, and AAR speaks for them.
 
Re: Dampier twists things again

> Do not take my comments out of context. You keep trying to
> twist things to suit your viewpoint. I made no comment
> about Hannity and Colmes, a program I have never watched.

How does one take things out of context when I quoted you saying you never watched Hannity and Colmes?!?! I brought your point about his radio show out of the original thread about AAR to focus more on Mr. Colmes in this new thread. I don't think your views have been changed at all.

> It was evident as soon as AAR got into bed with XM Radio
> that Colmes' days on the channel were numbered. AAR showed
> their complete lack of integretity when they "orphaned"
> their listeners on Sirius. But this is what happens with an
> organization run by political hacks and a record company
> (BLEEP). Wonder if Goldberg's name will come up in Elliot
> Spitzer's payola investigation, too?

The Reasonable Railways train you were riding just derailed again. Are record company executives the new evil clown? I'm surprised you didn't suggest they are all doing blow in the board room.

Colmes ended up on the AAR channel before there was an AAR channel. His contract kept him on the channel (along with Ed Schultz) until XM penned an exclusive deal with AAR in return for free studios in DC for AAR talent. Colmes will still be on XM on the channel with the rest of the Fox people.

You are always saying that talk radio is a BUSINESS and that it's all about profits and money. So why is it okay for other networks to cut business deals that treat their listeners like an Armenian Money Train of endless cash, but when AAR and XM do a deal they lack integrity? Why is AAR run by political hacks while Rush Limbaugh and several other rip 'n read talking points from the RNC hosts aren't?

What does payola have to do with AAR talk radio? Are you alleging a secret payola deal over bumper music?

> I don't get your attachment to AAR - the mouthpiece of the
> DLC. Pro-war (we support the troops but Bush could do a
> better job running things) and Pro-Israel
> (anti-Palestinian). Any true liberal would gag at the
> thought. If LBJ and his ilk were still around, he'd love
> AAR. Not all neo-cons left the Democratic Party, and AAR
> speaks for them.

Actually the Democracy Radio "incubator" was the one that had ties to the Democratic party. I have no idea why you believe the DLC is pulling the strings at AAR. Listen to Mike Malloy or Randi Rhodes or the Majority Report who have nothing nice to say about the DLC or Democrats that act RepublicanLite.

With remarks like these, I have to wonder if you actually ever listen to AAR programming? Ask any of them what they think about Joe Lieberman these days.
 
Sheesh...you better change your tampon after all of that!

> Sirius yanked the plug on Fox News altogether last night
> after refusing to pay at least a 250% rate increase for the
> TV audio channel + commit to a multiyear carriage agreement
> for the newly launching Fox News Radio. Sirius figures they
> can live without all of the noisy sound effects that
> obliterate the TV soundtrack when rebroadcast and they can
> do without John "You'll Answer to God" Gibson and Tony
> "Snowjob" Snow. They would be right, especially after a
> totally jammed call center from thousands of new Sirius
> subscribers coming for Stern. A few right wing blogs are
> trying to organize a boycott of Sirius for booting Fox, but
> Sirius clearly could care less with the megabucks they are
> raking in from Stern subscribers.
>
> Buh bye Alan Colmes and all the others from Sirius. Too
> bad, so sad. Fox needs to cut prices and stop trying to
> force feed their radio network on Sirius and then I'm sure
> they'll be back.
>
> XM AAR subscribers can rejoice this week as well as the
> Vichy Collaborator Alan Colmes is booted off the AAR channel
> to join the new Fox News Radio channel launching later this
> week. Finally we'll be able to hear Mike Malloy live, and
> that is going to cause whiplash for a lot of AAR listeners
> because Colmes is night to Malloy's day. Let me pick up
> from a post mwebster made:
>
> > I have not watched Hannity and Colmes - I don't even have
> > FNC selected as one of the channels I receive on my
> > satellite receiver. I have heard his radio show and I
> > wasn't impressed. He seemed rambling in his monologues,
> > interviews and phone interactions, and not that well
> > prepared.
>
> Which is precisely why most liberals consider him totally
> ineffective, especially with Hannity who is clearly running
> the show. Hannity follows the "rules" when it suits him -
> Colmes -always- follows them, when he gets a word in
> edgewise. That reinforces the image of liberals as
> weak-kneed non-confrontational wimps, and Colmes even looks
> the part.
>
> Alan Colmes will never be trusted, much less respected by
> anyone in the progressive community until he stands up to
> Hannity and once, just once, calls him a liar or takes the
> kind of liberties that Hannity takes every single show.
> Colmes' radio show is finally being booted off XM's AAR
> channel this week, and good riddance. He'll be a part of
> the new Fox News Radio lineup on XM launching this week, and
> he'll be talking to conservatives and a handful of liberals
> who don't know any better.
>
> Down with ineffective "safe" liberals. I'd dare Hannity to
> let a Stephanie Miller or Randi Rhodes co-host just one
> night. Right now, Fox News' idea of a debate show is
> something right out of the old days of Radio Moscow. "On
> the left, a Communist. On the right, a Communist with a
> stutter and attention deficit disorder. Let's play
> Softball."
>
 
Re: Dampier twists things again

I wouldn't be surprised if AAR tried to hire Lieberman. His scratchy whiney voice would fit right in with Franken. He sounds like the kid in the Big Brother PSA: "Wouldn't you be a Big Brother to a kid like me ----- PLEASE!"
Only with Lierberman, "it's vote for me ---- PLEASE!"

CC calls the format "progressive talk." Truth in advertising would require AAR to position themselves as DLC moderate talk.

I notice whenever anyone criticizes AAR you don't deal with it. You simply point out similar transgressions on the other side. I'll save you the trouble. The DLC are what neo-cons call themselves on the Democratic side. The Republicans have not run a true conservative since Goldwater. The Democrats have not run a true progressive since McGovern.

Why do I have to ask what they think of Lieberman? Aren't they volunteering the information? Meanwhile, they seem to be giving Hillary (Queen of the DLC) a pass. Everytime I write my (HUGE) check to Blue Cross, I silently say, "Thank you, Hillary, for doing such a great job reforming health insurance. Because you did such a great job, you should get to run the whole country."

>
> With remarks like these, I have to wonder if you actually
> ever listen to AAR programming? Ask any of them what they
> think about Joe Lieberman these days.
>
 
Re: Dampier twists things again

> I notice whenever anyone criticizes AAR you don't deal with
> it. You simply point out similar transgressions on the
> other side. I'll save you the trouble. The DLC are what
> neo-cons call themselves on the Democratic side. The
> Republicans have not run a true conservative since
> Goldwater. The Democrats have not run a true progressive
> since McGovern.

1) I'm not sure how to deal with remarks that seem so out in the DLC's moderate-left field. The DLC has no friends at AAR with the possible exception of Springer and maybe Al Franken who can't afford to alienate anyone if he's going to run for Congress. I think listeners are aware of Franken's "plight." The rest of the schedule of talent attacks the DLC theory of "we must run to the middle," so to accuse the network of being in bed with an organization most of the help despises is bizarre.

2) I don't disagree with your comments about the state of candidates for office these days, but as you criticized me for mentioning the word "television," should I criticize you for running off the radio road and running into politics?

3) Being consistent is important if you want to level criticism at AAR for something that the other networks and folks did, do, and will continue to do for years to come. That being said, you have the right to criticize AAR or hold whatever opinion you like. I don't "deal" with that because you have just as much right to your views as anyone else around here.

> Why do I have to ask what they think of Lieberman? Aren't
> they volunteering the information? Meanwhile, they seem to
> be giving Hillary (Queen of the DLC) a pass.

Mike Malloy is no fan of Hillary, but a lot of people haven't heard him, especially via XM, thanks to Colmes' presence in his timeslot until this week. The Majority Report isn't so hot on her either. Even Randi Rhodes who doesn't think the Clinton strategy is going to fool the red states.

AAR shows typically boost Howard Dean's Democratic wing of the Democratic party, not the Lieberman crowd.
 
Re: Dampier twists things again

If it's ideological purity you want, commercial radio is not the place you're going to get it..on either side. <P ID="signature">______________
Have a Happy New Year!
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Liar?

> Alan Colmes will never be trusted, much less respected by
> anyone in the progressive community until he stands up to
> Hannity and once, just once, calls him a liar or takes the
> kind of liberties that Hannity takes every single show.

Are you suggesting that Hannity calls Colmes a liar?

I've never heard it and I think he is much too polite to do so.
(Colmes is also too polite.)

That sounds more like a Randi Rhodes or Al Franken technique.
Or even O'Reilly.

> Down with ineffective "safe" liberals. I'd dare Hannity to
> let a Stephanie Miller or Randi Rhodes co-host just one

I like Colmes. I don't like the Bush-Hating shrieking lefty
talkers, which encompasses most of the liberals I've heard.
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Re: Dampier twists things again

> I notice whenever anyone criticizes AAR you don't deal with
> it. You simply point out similar transgressions on the
> other side. I'll save you the trouble. The DLC are what
> neo-cons call themselves on the Democratic side.

I don't understand that sentence.

> The
> Republicans have not run a true conservative since
> Goldwater.

You got that right. Today's religious right is so ****ed up
they call him a liberal. Because he was conservative -- and
he didn't think government should be concerned about anyone's
choices in religion or sexual activities.

> The Democrats have not run a true progressive
> since McGovern.

Maybe so, but they've run a lot of extremists and wackos
anyway.

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Re: Liar?

Seems to be what the liberals want...Randi Rhodes opposite Sean hannity shrieking, "Hannity, you're a lying pig!" and shouting him down. Presumably, every conservative would then see the error of their ways and rush downtown to register as a Democrat. <P ID="signature">______________
Have a Happy New Year!
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Re: Dampier twists things again

> Actually the Democracy Radio "incubator" was the one that
> had ties to the Democratic party. I have no idea why you
> believe the DLC is pulling the strings at AAR. Listen to
> Mike Malloy or Randi Rhodes or the Majority Report who have
> nothing nice to say about the DLC or Democrats that act
> RepublicanLite.
>
> With remarks like these, I have to wonder if you actually
> ever listen to AAR programming? Ask any of them what they
> think about Joe Lieberman these days.
>

If he was listening he would have hear most of the AAR hosts strongly condemn any Dem that would have the nerve to be corrupt and a part of the Abrahamoff scandal.
Malloy is probably the loudest and clearest Liberman critic.

Outside of AAR, Bernie Ward and Jay Marvin both shared similar thoughts and Bernie Ward is a more pointed critic of Lieberman.....

AAR hosts are not echo platforms for the DLC or the DNC.......ask Sean Hannity or Rush about what an echo sounds like.....
 
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