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Bye-bye, Oldies on 1170...

W

westlife

Guest
With only one week left, the Classic Oldies simulcast is already ID'ing in its liners as simply "AM 1250, WMTR".

But on November 1st, will we hear the ID as "AMs 1250 and 1450"? Or perhaps "FM 105.5"? I guess we'll have to wait and see!

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No.. just 1250 as it used to be before there was 1170. Start learning Hindi now.


With only one week left, the Classic Oldies simulcast is
> already ID'ing in its liners as simply "AM 1250, WMTR".
>
> But on November 1st, will we hear the ID as "AMs 1250 and
> 1450"? Or perhaps "FM 105.5"? I guess we'll have to wait
> and see!
>
 
LOL I can see how educated you guys are.... NOT

the format is not hindi. Its South Asian.
It covers many (aprox 14) dialects.( languages of 3 South Asian countrys)
and If you have listened to the station on 1680 its 75% English.
most of the weekend programming is in a dialect of some sort. I know of at least 5 that are used.
During the week its mostly what I call HINGLISH.. they Mix enough English
into it you can Understand 90% of what they are saying with an accent.
you laugh now. Spanish is now a required second language in schools.
you watch soon a south asian language will be required. look at where all
the IT, Programmers are these days.. call tech support for any major corp.
My bet is 90+% of the time is a South Asian Person At that job. been to a PNC bank lately or other banks looks whos behind the counter.
Im jewish so Ill say it. You think the Jewish people have money???? EHHHHHHHH
wrong... guess again.
its 3am I cannot sleep so Im just typing.... night yall..
New website Coming soon with LOTS of Pictures.

> No.. just 1250 as it used to be before there was 1170. Start
> learning Hindi now.
>
>
> With only one week left, the Classic Oldies simulcast is
> > already ID'ing in its liners as simply "AM 1250, WMTR".
> >
> > But on November 1st, will we hear the ID as "AMs 1250 and
> > 1450"? Or perhaps "FM 105.5"? I guess we'll have to wait
>
> > and see!
> >
>
 
> LOL I can see how educated you guys are.... NOT
>
> the format is not hindi. Its South Asian.
> It covers many (aprox 14) dialects.( languages of 3 South
> Asian countrys)
> and If you have listened to the station on 1680 its 75%
> English.
> most of the weekend programming is in a dialect of some
> sort. I know of at least 5 that are used.
> During the week its mostly what I call HINGLISH.. they Mix
> enough English
> into it you can Understand 90% of what they are saying with
> an accent.
> you laugh now. Spanish is now a required second language in
> schools.
> you watch soon a south asian language will be required. look
> at where all
> the IT, Programmers are these days.. call tech support for
> any major corp.
> My bet is 90+% of the time is a South Asian Person At that
> job. been to a PNC bank lately or other banks looks whos
> behind the counter.
> Im jewish so Ill say it. You think the Jewish people have
> money???? EHHHHHHHH
> wrong... guess again.
> its 3am I cannot sleep so Im just typing.... night yall..
> New website Coming soon with LOTS of Pictures.
>
> > No.. just 1250 as it used to be before there was 1170.
> Start
> > learning Hindi now.
> >
> >
> > With only one week left, the Classic Oldies simulcast is
> > > already ID'ing in its liners as simply "AM 1250, WMTR".
> > >
> > > But on November 1st, will we hear the ID as "AMs 1250
> and
> > > 1450"? Or perhaps "FM 105.5"? I guess we'll have to
> wait
> >
> > > and see!
> > >
> >
>

Anyone want to predict when the Asian formats will hit FM?
 
> Sorry , but you will not be hearing oldies on 1450.
>

Yeah especially since that "Talk" format is really blowing the competition right out of the water. Gimme a Break... if it IS ALL About the $$$$, Greater Media ought to invest some time thinking about how to make WCTC profitable!
 
> >
CTC is a waist except for Ellery. When he leaves theres nothing left. I enjoy Jack. CTC under Tony Marano was a top notch radio station up until he retired.
The station was his life and everyone wanted to work at CTC. It had the best news dept. and great jocks like Mike Jarmus, Bill Emerson, Denny More, Tony Dee, Steve Tapper with his oldies and a great Sunday morning show.. They also had ethic programming on Sunday. Polka shows, Jewish shows, Hungarian, Spanish ,alitte something for everybody This is what a local station is supposed to do. Local (BLEEP), not syndicated crap during the day, put that on at night. CTC can be a killer of a station if it had the right PD. This is my example of what they should have on. Like any business you have to spend money to make money.

Ellery mornings as is.
Max Kinkel Midday's who's doing talk now on WTBQ 1110 and sounds great
Jay Diamond afternoons
Greaseman or Tom Lykis evenings
Alan Colmes latenight and Barry Farber overnight.

Hire a news staff and put CTC back on top for Central Jersey/

I'm sure Tony Marano is turning in his grave. I knew him and he was a smart man and knew radio and was well respected in the community. He was involed with many local organizations


Get rid of Bruce Williams, hes had his run and is now boring as hell along with Jim Bohannon and that space UFO crap overnight.


Sorry , but you will not be hearing oldies on 1450.
> >
>
> Yeah especially since that "Talk" format is really blowing
> the competition right out of the water. Gimme a Break... if
> it IS ALL About the $$$$, Greater Media ought to invest some
> time thinking about how to make WCTC profitable!
>
 
> > >
> CTC is a waist except for Ellery. When he leaves theres
> nothing left. I enjoy Jack. CTC under Tony Marano was a top
> notch radio station up until he retired.
> The station was his life and everyone wanted to work at CTC.
> It had the best news dept. and great jocks like Mike Jarmus,
> Bill Emerson, Denny More, Tony Dee, Steve Tapper with his
> oldies and a great Sunday morning show.. They also had ethic
> programming on Sunday. Polka shows, Jewish shows, Hungarian,
> Spanish ,alitte something for everybody This is what a local
> station is supposed to do. Local (BLEEP), not syndicated
> crap during the day, put that on at night. CTC can be a
> killer of a station if it had the right PD. This is my
> example of what they should have on. Like any business you
> have to spend money to make money.
>
> Ellery mornings as is.
> Max Kinkel Midday's who's doing talk now on WTBQ 1110 and
> sounds great
> Jay Diamond afternoons
> Greaseman or Tom Lykis evenings
> Alan Colmes latenight and Barry Farber overnight.
>
> Hire a news staff and put CTC back on top for Central
> Jersey/
>
> I'm sure Tony Marano is turning in his grave. I knew him and
> he was a smart man and knew radio and was well respected in
> the community. He was involed with many local organizations
>
>
> Get rid of Bruce Williams, hes had his run and is now boring
> as hell along with Jim Bohannon and that space UFO crap
> overnight.
>
>
> Sorry , but you will not be hearing oldies on 1450.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah especially since that "Talk" format is really blowing
>
> > the competition right out of the water. Gimme a Break...
> if
> > it IS ALL About the $$$$, Greater Media ought to invest
> some
> > time thinking about how to make WCTC profitable!
> >
>


Here we go again. More Coast to Coast AM bashing.

I wouldn't mind so much if people had some legitimate
comments about the show, the choice of topics...all
topics, etc. But some people insist on characterizing
the show as "that space UFO crap overnight." By saying
this the person belies their arguments because a look
at the program schedule will show the wide range of
topics discussed. There's a heavy lean toward scientific
topics, but I have heard shows on music history, the
future of oil exploration, etc.

The current host of the show, George Noory, is a veteran
broadcaster with more experience under his belt than most
people you hear on the air. He is an accomplished and very
talented interviewer. And for a lot of radio enthusiasts
who have worked in the business it is a pleasure hearing
how skillfully he conducts the interviews, most of them
three-hours long.

Speaking of leaning, I notice that your ideal WCTC program
format shows a decided lean...to the left. In the relatively
small WCTC market, how well would a politically left format
do? It would seem that the station would turn off a lot
of people who don't see eye-to-eye with those liberal talkers.
 
> LOL I can see how educated you guys are.... NOT
>
> the format is not hindi. Its South Asian.
> It covers many (aprox 14) dialects.( languages of 3 South
> Asian countrys)
> and If you have listened to the station on 1680 its 75%
> English.
> most of the weekend programming is in a dialect of some
> sort. I know of at least 5 that are used.
> During the week its mostly what I call HINGLISH.. they Mix
> enough English
> into it you can Understand 90% of what they are saying with
> an accent.
> you laugh now. Spanish is now a required second language in
> schools.
> you watch soon a south asian language will be required. look
> at where all
> the IT, Programmers are these days.. call tech support for
> any major corp.
> My bet is 90+% of the time is a South Asian Person At that
> job. been to a PNC bank lately or other banks looks whos
> behind the counter.
> Im jewish so Ill say it. You think the Jewish people have
> money???? EHHHHHHHH
> wrong... guess again.
> its 3am I cannot sleep so Im just typing.... night yall..
> New website Coming soon with LOTS of Pictures.
>

Ethnicity is not based on geography. "South Asia" denotes
a geographic area but doesn't define the culture, religion,
race, etc. of the people who live there. The area of South
Asia includes many different groups, including Indians and
Pakistanis. Those two groups, it is my understanding, do
not view themselves as part of one happy family. I believe
the nuclear weapons race in that part of the world underscores
the distance those two countries have put between themselves.

It matters not how much English is spoken on WTTM, or WWTR.
The station wouldn't attract a general audience. The material
broadcast appeals to a minority group, whatever dialect it
speaks.

It's been a while since I've been in high school, so I
might be wrong. But I haven't heard of any schools where
Spanish is a REQUIRED language. Can anyone confirm this?

Neal writes, "...soon a south asian language will be required."
I don't think I am the only one who believes this is not
going to happen. Perhaps because of the British colonial
heritage in India, all the Asian Indians I know speak English,
very well. I suspect that much like many Americans of
Chinese heritage, second-generation Americans of Asian Indian
legacy will not speak Hindi, even to each other. We need look
only at the children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren
of immigrants from Germany, Italy, Poland, etc. to see that
the subsequent generations lose their ability with ancestral
languages. It's sad in a way, but a common language is part of
what brings all Americans together regardless of past heritage.

I find the rest of Neal's post a bit distasteful. People should
not be characterized by the occupations they choose. Often
immigrants enter occupations that happen to be a good match
at the time they emigrate to the United States. The Chinese
had no greater affinity for washing clothes than any other
people but at one time there were many Chinese laundries
in American cities. Many diners are owned by those of Greek
heritage but this isn't because they are not adept at becoming
computer programmers.

I am especially taken aback by the stereotyping of Jews as
being rich. I don't think Neal intended any harm, but he
should realize that this is part of a centuries-old charge
to discredit and demonize a religious group. A New York
magazine had a cover story recently that dragged up another
anti-Semitic stereotype. The magazine was criticized for
this attempt to reinforce an awful canard.
 
True to a point that they may not view themselves as one happy family Overseas, But over here our programming caters to exactly that region.
Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans


> Ethnicity is not based on geography. "South Asia" denotes
> a geographic area but doesn't define the culture, religion,
> race, etc. of the people who live there. The area of South
> Asia includes many different groups, including Indians and
> Pakistanis. Those two groups, it is my understanding, do
> not view themselves as part of one happy family. I believe
> the nuclear weapons race in that part of the world
> underscores
> the distance those two countries have put between
> themselves.
>
> It matters not how much English is spoken on WTTM, or WWTR.
> The station wouldn't attract a general audience. The
> material
> broadcast appeals to a minority group, whatever dialect it
> speaks.

You would be very supprised to find out that we have many American(non-south asian) listeners.


> It's been a while since I've been in high school, so I
> might be wrong. But I haven't heard of any schools where
> Spanish is a REQUIRED language. Can anyone confirm this?


Today a Second language is required. seems most of the schools are pushing Spanish as the Second language. My Kids are 8 and 12 They are both taking Spanish in school.
My daughter whos 8 and still learning to read English. is Bringing home reading
assignments and homework in Both English and spanish Go figure.


>
> Neal writes, "...soon a south asian language will be
> required."

I was Kidding around when saying this ,but who Knows.. maybe someday??

> I don't think I am the only one who believes this is not
> going to happen. Perhaps because of the British colonial
> heritage in India, all the Asian Indians I know speak
> English,

In India students are Required to Learn English as a second language.
this is why"all the Asian Indians I know speak English"
There are so many Dialects in India its mind blowing.
.

> I find the rest of Neal's post a bit distasteful.
you may call it Disgraceful I call it as I see It as fact.
However I agree with you that Occupations happened to match the different Ethnic grooups as they Imigrated to the U.S.

> People should not be characterized by the occupations they choose. Often
> immigrants enter occupations that happen to be a good match
> at the time they emigrate to the United States. The Chinese
> had no greater affinity for washing clothes than any other
> people but at one time there were many Chinese laundries
> in American cities. Many diners are owned by those of Greek
> heritage but this isn't because they are not adept at
> becoming
> computer programmers.
>

LOL
thats fuuny.. most people do stereotype jews as being rich and Cheap.
Lets face a partial fact. Most Jewlers are Very religious Jews.
I have family that fits that catagory. 99% of the worlds diamonds
are from DeBears? you know who I mean .. its almost a 99% jewish industry
lets face a fact that its a money industry. bartering for the Best deals
But untill you work with south Asians.. You can really laugh at all the stereotyping....Its hard to type it and say it correctly ..
One thing I learned from reading in these groups.. Harold is a great Name.. its my fathers name also. and Just like my Father. Harold is never wrong about anything, and never admits when hes wrong.
Seems you cannot make a comment without him having something derogotory to say. Just Like my Father always negative.
Geeze lighten up...relax its Only a messageboard.dont take everything written Like its written in stone as fact. Hey I may not be always correct. But I am hardly ever wrong... Too Error is to be Human. Human. human. human
Error error error LOL..Not enough sleep. later guys and Gals

Did I creat harm To anyone?????? I better put my fingers away.. my typing might poke an EYE out reading this stuff.....

> I am especially taken aback by the stereotyping of Jews as
> being rich. I don't think Neal intended any harm, but he
> should realize that this is part of a centuries-old charge
> to discredit and demonize a religious group. A New York
> magazine had a cover story recently that dragged up another
> anti-Semitic stereotype. The magazine was criticized for
> this attempt to reinforce an awful canard.
>
 
> True to a point that they may not view themselves as one
> happy family Overseas, But over here our programming caters
> to exactly that region.
> Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans
>
>
> > Ethnicity is not based on geography. "South Asia" denotes
> > a geographic area but doesn't define the culture,
> religion,
> > race, etc. of the people who live there. The area of South
>
> > Asia includes many different groups, including Indians and
>
> > Pakistanis. Those two groups, it is my understanding, do
> > not view themselves as part of one happy family. I believe
>
> > the nuclear weapons race in that part of the world
> > underscores
> > the distance those two countries have put between
> > themselves.
> >
> > It matters not how much English is spoken on WTTM, or
> WWTR.
> > The station wouldn't attract a general audience. The
> > material
> > broadcast appeals to a minority group, whatever dialect it
>
> > speaks.
>
> You would be very supprised to find out that we have many
> American(non-south asian) listeners.
>
>
> > It's been a while since I've been in high school, so I
> > might be wrong. But I haven't heard of any schools where
> > Spanish is a REQUIRED language. Can anyone confirm this?
>
>
> Today a Second language is required. seems most of the
> schools are pushing Spanish as the Second language. My Kids
> are 8 and 12 They are both taking Spanish in school.
> My daughter whos 8 and still learning to read English. is
> Bringing home reading
> assignments and homework in Both English and spanish Go
> figure.
>
>
> >
> > Neal writes, "...soon a south asian language will be
> > required."
>
> I was Kidding around when saying this ,but who Knows..
> maybe someday??
>
> > I don't think I am the only one who believes this is not
> > going to happen. Perhaps because of the British colonial
> > heritage in India, all the Asian Indians I know speak
> > English,
>
> In India students are Required to Learn English as a
> second language.
> this is why"all the Asian Indians I know speak English"
> There are so many Dialects in India its mind blowing.
> .
>
> > I find the rest of Neal's post a bit distasteful.
> you may call it Disgraceful I call it as I see It as fact.
>
> However I agree with you that Occupations happened to
> match the different Ethnic grooups as they Imigrated to the
> U.S.
>
> > People should not be characterized by the occupations they
> choose. Often
> > immigrants enter occupations that happen to be a good
> match
> > at the time they emigrate to the United States. The
> Chinese
> > had no greater affinity for washing clothes than any other
>
> > people but at one time there were many Chinese laundries
> > in American cities. Many diners are owned by those of
> Greek
> > heritage but this isn't because they are not adept at
> > becoming
> > computer programmers.
> >
>
> LOL
> thats fuuny.. most people do stereotype jews as being rich
> and Cheap.
> Lets face a partial fact. Most Jewlers are Very religious
> Jews.
> I have family that fits that catagory. 99% of the worlds
> diamonds
> are from DeBears? you know who I mean .. its almost a 99%
> jewish industry
> lets face a fact that its a money industry. bartering for
> the Best deals
> But untill you work with south Asians.. You can really laugh
> at all the stereotyping....Its hard to type it and say it
> correctly ..
> One thing I learned from reading in these groups.. Harold
> is a great Name.. its my fathers name also. and Just like my
> Father. Harold is never wrong about anything, and never
> admits when hes wrong.
> Seems you cannot make a comment without him having something
> derogotory to say. Just Like my Father always negative.
> Geeze lighten up...relax its Only a messageboard.dont take
> everything written Like its written in stone as fact. Hey I
> may not be always correct. But I am hardly ever wrong... Too
> Error is to be Human. Human. human. human
> Error error error LOL..Not enough sleep. later guys and
> Gals
>
> Did I creat harm To anyone?????? I better put my fingers
> away.. my typing might poke an EYE out reading this
> stuff.....
>
> > I am especially taken aback by the stereotyping of Jews as
>
> > being rich. I don't think Neal intended any harm, but he
> > should realize that this is part of a centuries-old charge
>
> > to discredit and demonize a religious group. A New York
> > magazine had a cover story recently that dragged up
> another
> > anti-Semitic stereotype. The magazine was criticized for
> > this attempt to reinforce an awful canard.
> >
>


Neal. You could have taken the high road and apologized
for the hurtful and untrue comments you made. You chose
instead to extend the stereotyping. You summon up the
spectre of that notorious anti-Semite Al Sharpton who
referred to Jews as "diamond merchants." You attempt,
in your previous post, to justify the hateful comments
of Sharpton.

I am entitled to my opinions, Neal. Like others on this
forum I am willing to share my views and observations
with others. You are free to disagree and express your
own opinions. However, simply because you disagree with
my beliefs doesn't make them "wrong." And because I hold
to my beliefs doesn't make me wrong, or in error. Unless
you can prove that you have a special conduit to the
Absolute Truth, you only can offer an opinion.

I enter into a forum like this to toss around issues with
others. I respect all opinions that are offered in good
faith and with respect toward others. I don't tolerate
ethnic stereotyping.
 
> I am entitled to my opinions,
YES You Are.


> You are free to disagree and express your
> own opinions.
Yes I have..


> you only can offer an opinion.
YES I have...


> I enter into a forum like this to toss around issues with
> others.
YES You Have...



>I respect all opinions that are offered in good
> faith and with respect toward others. I don't tolerate
> ethnic stereotyping.

This is where I dont agree with You.. If I had the time to read back
postings I could Quote many Times where you attack Ethic groups in this fourm.
especially when it comes To what groups are on the radio. chinese , Spanish, the Indians(EBC).
You may think you respect Ethinc groups.,but on the other hand you seem to Type that they have No place to be on any radio station.

I wish I could find the one quote where you basicly said(Its not exactly what you said But the meaning behind it).. you can Live in middlesex county
But there is no place for an indian radio station. it does not serve the Community of license.

If I have the wrong Guy I appoligize.
,But I doubt it. I have the Right person.
Even my partner at work who reads this group has made Comment
about "whos this Harold guy. He really seems To hate us Indians Being on the radio.
Maybe some of the other guys in this group can find the messages containing
the comments and then just Quote them..

Im off to work later......
 
> > I am entitled to my opinions,
> YES You Are.
>
>
> > You are free to disagree and express your
> > own opinions.
> Yes I have..
>
>
> > you only can offer an opinion.
> YES I have...
>
>
> > I enter into a forum like this to toss around issues with
> > others.
> YES You Have...
>
>
>
> >I respect all opinions that are offered in good
> > faith and with respect toward others. I don't tolerate
> > ethnic stereotyping.
>
> This is where I dont agree with You.. If I had the time to
> read back
> postings I could Quote many Times where you attack Ethic
> groups in this fourm.
> especially when it comes To what groups are on the radio.
> chinese , Spanish, the Indians(EBC).
> You may think you respect Ethinc groups.,but on the other
> hand you seem to Type that they have No place to be on any
> radio station.
>
> I wish I could find the one quote where you basicly said(Its
> not exactly what you said But the meaning behind it).. you
> can Live in middlesex county
> But there is no place for an indian radio station. it does
> not serve the Community of license.
>
> If I have the wrong Guy I appoligize.
> ,But I doubt it. I have the Right person.
> Even my partner at work who reads this group has made
> Comment
> about "whos this Harold guy. He really seems To hate us
> Indians Being on the radio.
> Maybe some of the other guys in this group can find the
> messages containing
> the comments and then just Quote them..
>
> Im off to work later......
>

So Neal says "If I had the time to read back postings I could
Quote many Times where you attack Ethic groups in this fourm."

Why don't you do that Neal. You'll spend a lot of time because
I have never, ever attacked ethnic groups. Your attempt to
define me as a bigot are both wrong and unseemly. I have the
greatest respect for all decent people, regardless of their
ethnicity...race, religion, gender, etc. And asking others
to go out and try to dig up dirt on me is also very disrespectful
to other people on the forum. I suspect they have enough class to
see through this smear.

As far as your friend saying "He really seems To hate us
Indians Being on the radio," tell him to go back and read,
really read, what I wrote. The concise version is this: In
a market where there are very few broadcast allocations,
the needs of the general public for broadcast service outweigh
special interest groups. The 1680-kHz frequency was assigned
to Princeton so as to enable greater broadcast service to that
community, not Lindenwold or Philadelphia. The 1350-kHz station
was supposed to transfer to the new frequency and shut down
the 1350 operation. That would leave the Princeton area with
just one AM radio station. With so few broadcast resources in
the area, I think the public would be much better served by a
full-service general radio station rather than one that caters
to a small minority. This opinion of mine, if you believe Neal
and his friend, constitutes hatred of Indians on the radio.

(As an aside, the people who were on WTTM and now WWTR do
not seem to have any interest at all in anyone other than
their own ethnic group. If the people in Somerset County
no longer have a general radio station catering to their
needs, that seems to be OK with EBC. After all, it appears
that they are using the station only for its transmitter
and whatever signal they can project from Bridgewater to
Edison.)

The readers will recall that the discussion took this turn
because Neal himself thought it appropriate to dredge up
a very awful stereotype about Jews. It was a canard used
by anti-Semites for hundreds of years.

Perhaps Neal should have his Indian friend take a look
at that stereotype. It was made in an effort to convince
us that Indians too are very rich. Like all stereotypes,
that one also is not true.

Have at it Neal. See if you can twist my words to make me
out as a bigot. It would have been a lot easier to simply
apologize to both Jews and Indians for what you said. It
also would have been the classy thing to do.
 
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