You folks are spoiled; even the worst hotel cable systems does not compare to the really crappy TV (not cable) systems experienced by many of us. I will start a thread soon but not sure where on the boards to place it- national TV, classic TV, DX and reception etc. I was wondering why KML could not hook up the Batwing to the older TV-not that it would have done much good since that area is a pit. Even Keene would be tough. Go 20 MI W on RT 9 and you have LOS for 75 mi S and SE.