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Jay77
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xmusicmatt said:
I've found the AAC+ with Shoutcast to be unreliable compared to a regular mp3 stream.
In Shoutcast/Winamp I tried AAC+ v1 24kbps, 32000khz (mono) and most of the time I do not hear audio on my iPhone. It says "listening" but no audio, or get's stuck on "buffering". I use the FStream app. I did manage to get it working at one point. I disconnected and tried again this time no audio. Zero results with AAC+ v2 with Shoutcast/Winamp.
What, you're using "free" encoders and it's not working properly? How weird...
And so you conclude the "aacPlus and SHOUTcast don't work together". How did you troubleshoot this before coming to this very engineering conclusion. How do you know it has something to do with the audio format and not a dozen of other things? How do you know it's not an encoder problem? How do you know it's not an server problem? How do you know it's not a player issue? How do you know it's not a protocol/port/compatibility/connection issue?
You got to love these kind of statements...
Regards,
Goran Tomas
And so you conclude the "aacPlus and SHOUTcast don't work together". How did you troubleshoot this before coming to this very engineering conclusion. How do you know it has something to do with the audio format and not a dozen of other things? How do you know it's not an encoder problem? How do you know it's not an server problem? How do you know it's not a player issue? How do you know it's not a protocol/port/compatibility/connection issue?
You got to love these kind of statements...
Regards,
Goran Tomas
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Jay77
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Moran, I'm sorry I mean Goran, I did not mean to whizz in your cheerios! Thank you for the blast instead of help. Are you really an engineer for a broadcast outlet? With that kind of reply it makes me think you are a wannabe!
I've seen how many people helped "Josh" with alot of his issues so I assumed, perhaps a mistake on my part, I could get some great advice/help here. I am not an engineer like most here, however I am an Ops Director who has the basic knowledge of audio wiring, if it has a connector I can make it work. I am eagerly trying to further my career by learning how to become a studio engineer (have no interest in RF). Perhaps unlike you, I learn by asking questions and hands-on.
Now, would any kind, intelligent, customer-service friendly person mind offering a little help? If so feel free to send a PM so we won't step on Gormans toes.
I've seen how many people helped "Josh" with alot of his issues so I assumed, perhaps a mistake on my part, I could get some great advice/help here. I am not an engineer like most here, however I am an Ops Director who has the basic knowledge of audio wiring, if it has a connector I can make it work. I am eagerly trying to further my career by learning how to become a studio engineer (have no interest in RF). Perhaps unlike you, I learn by asking questions and hands-on.
Now, would any kind, intelligent, customer-service friendly person mind offering a little help? If so feel free to send a PM so we won't step on Gormans toes.
Goran Tomas said:
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Jay77
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Goran...my apologies. I googled your name...you certainly know your stuff. I admit i replied off the cuff however your reply could have been a bit more helpful to me if you would have been so kind to reply with some information that could have helped me instead of me feeling like some sort of "poser". With that said do you have any insight as to why i cannot use the winamp dsp aacplus v1 consistently?
Rather than hijack this thread, I am creating a "companion" thread that will discuss the challenges of RECEIVING streaming.
Radio Pros > Engineering > Calling all experts on RECEIVING streams
Radio Pros > Engineering > Calling all experts on RECEIVING streams
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Jay77 said:
Well I'll try to help as I can get 28k & 32k streams just fine on my jailbroken iPhone 2G with T-Mobile (which is EDGE, not 3G).
First of all, what player app are you using? If you're not using an app, get one. It makes a world of difference. I like VU Radio and RadioBOX as they both allow entering custom stream URLs.
Jay77,
Nowhere in your post did I read "I need help, I can't make this work". Instead there was a claim: "it's unreliable, doesn't work". Perhaps I overreacted, but there so much confusion already and these kind of comments just add to the perception that streaming is hard to do, doesn't work reliably and that modern codecs are still new and untested and we need to get back to the mp3 stone ages...
Part of the problem is using software that is free. Free in many cases doesn't mean bad, on the contrary, but it also means there are no guarantees that it will do what it claims it will do, that there is no or little support to overcome problems if they arise. When it doesn't work, you have to point the finger to the exact source of the problem, and not just come to the board and say "aacPlus doesn't work". It does, when done properly. On the topic of free encoders I'll also add that the free encoder is not a licensed software and it cannot be used for commercial use.
Now, getting back to solving the problem, here's my attempt of helping you out. A general overview of things to look at:
http://www.gorantomas.com/?p=40
Regards,
Goran Tomas
Nowhere in your post did I read "I need help, I can't make this work". Instead there was a claim: "it's unreliable, doesn't work". Perhaps I overreacted, but there so much confusion already and these kind of comments just add to the perception that streaming is hard to do, doesn't work reliably and that modern codecs are still new and untested and we need to get back to the mp3 stone ages...
Part of the problem is using software that is free. Free in many cases doesn't mean bad, on the contrary, but it also means there are no guarantees that it will do what it claims it will do, that there is no or little support to overcome problems if they arise. When it doesn't work, you have to point the finger to the exact source of the problem, and not just come to the board and say "aacPlus doesn't work". It does, when done properly. On the topic of free encoders I'll also add that the free encoder is not a licensed software and it cannot be used for commercial use.
Now, getting back to solving the problem, here's my attempt of helping you out. A general overview of things to look at:
http://www.gorantomas.com/?p=40
Regards,
Goran Tomas
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Jay77
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Goran, thank you for the reply and link to your article. While troubleshooting tomorrow I was going to ask if it was online where I could read it. Again, thank you.
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