This is sort of a general question about stations that air delayed shows. Are they expecting to lose all callers from that city? Here in Boston, shows like Laura or Hannity are delayed on WTKK, so how can you follow the topic and call in? With Savage, I've heard him mention in the past how he'd like to have more callers from Boston. But now that he's on a delay here in Boston and in Providence, you'll never know what's being discussed unless you get a live stream from somewhere else, in which case the radio version is pointless anyway.
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Calling in to Tape-Delayed Shows
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> This is sort of a general question about stations that air
> delayed shows. Are they expecting to lose all callers from
> that city? Here in Boston, shows like Laura or Hannity are
> delayed on WTKK, so how can you follow the topic and call
> in? With Savage, I've heard him mention in the past how
> he'd like to have more callers from Boston. But now that
> he's on a delay here in Boston and in Providence, you'll
> never know what's being discussed unless you get a live
> stream from somewhere else, in which case the radio version
> is pointless anyway.
<font color=blue> Callers to these shows are pretty much irrelevant anyway. First you tell them how great they are,how much they are doing for us and how bad the other guy is. Why would anybody want to call. Most of the syn's. are not in real time so it's them talking and you're there to listen and give them numbers.You'd have to be really gonzo to call a show you can't hear just to hear it hours later.</font>
> delayed shows. Are they expecting to lose all callers from
> that city? Here in Boston, shows like Laura or Hannity are
> delayed on WTKK, so how can you follow the topic and call
> in? With Savage, I've heard him mention in the past how
> he'd like to have more callers from Boston. But now that
> he's on a delay here in Boston and in Providence, you'll
> never know what's being discussed unless you get a live
> stream from somewhere else, in which case the radio version
> is pointless anyway.
<font color=blue> Callers to these shows are pretty much irrelevant anyway. First you tell them how great they are,how much they are doing for us and how bad the other guy is. Why would anybody want to call. Most of the syn's. are not in real time so it's them talking and you're there to listen and give them numbers.You'd have to be really gonzo to call a show you can't hear just to hear it hours later.</font>
> This is sort of a general question about stations that air
> delayed shows. Are they expecting to lose all callers from
> that city? Here in Boston, shows like Laura or Hannity are
> delayed on WTKK, so how can you follow the topic and call
> in?
Maybe people are listening live online...or via a station that _does_ run him
live (in Hannity's case, the WGIR stations do).
I will say that while Laura's show is technically 9-noon, she sometimes/
often does live hours for WABC and WTKK. Today she mentioned the
refusal by Schwarzenegger to grant Tookie clemency--something that happened
about 3:30 pm (I heard Howie mention it earlier, at that time). So that had
to be a LIVE hour. Hannity's "breaking news" aired at 3:30 pm live but
at 10:30 pm here.
With Savage, I've heard him mention in the past how
> he'd like to have more callers from Boston. But now that
> he's on a delay here in Boston and in Providence, you'll
> never know what's being discussed unless you get a live
> stream from somewhere else, in which case the radio version
> is pointless anyway.
>
Yes.<P ID="signature">______________
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> delayed shows. Are they expecting to lose all callers from
> that city? Here in Boston, shows like Laura or Hannity are
> delayed on WTKK, so how can you follow the topic and call
> in?
Maybe people are listening live online...or via a station that _does_ run him
live (in Hannity's case, the WGIR stations do).
I will say that while Laura's show is technically 9-noon, she sometimes/
often does live hours for WABC and WTKK. Today she mentioned the
refusal by Schwarzenegger to grant Tookie clemency--something that happened
about 3:30 pm (I heard Howie mention it earlier, at that time). So that had
to be a LIVE hour. Hannity's "breaking news" aired at 3:30 pm live but
at 10:30 pm here.
With Savage, I've heard him mention in the past how
> he'd like to have more callers from Boston. But now that
> he's on a delay here in Boston and in Providence, you'll
> never know what's being discussed unless you get a live
> stream from somewhere else, in which case the radio version
> is pointless anyway.
>
Yes.<P ID="signature">______________
<img src="http://microfurry.250free.com/raccoonradio5ap.gif"></P>
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Most of the syn's. are not in real
> time so it's them talking and you're there to listen and
> give them numbers.
>
Numbers like "Hi! Long time listener, First time caller!"
> time so it's them talking and you're there to listen and
> give them numbers.
>
Numbers like "Hi! Long time listener, First time caller!"
This is not rocket science -
find out when the show is airing live, in real time, and call THEN, and sit on hold until they decide if they want to take your call or not.
Hours later, you will get to hear yourself on the air if they chose to take your call. How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all? :0)
find out when the show is airing live, in real time, and call THEN, and sit on hold until they decide if they want to take your call or not.
Hours later, you will get to hear yourself on the air if they chose to take your call. How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all? :0)
> This is not rocket science -
> find out when the show is airing live, in real time, and
> call THEN, and sit on hold until they decide if they want to
> take your call or not.
>
> Hours later, you will get to hear yourself on the air if
> they chose to take your call. How can you be in two places
> at once when you're not anywhere at all? :0)
>
I guess in a way it's like voicetracking.
Jacko
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And a pocket full of gold.
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> find out when the show is airing live, in real time, and
> call THEN, and sit on hold until they decide if they want to
> take your call or not.
>
> Hours later, you will get to hear yourself on the air if
> they chose to take your call. How can you be in two places
> at once when you're not anywhere at all? :0)
>
I guess in a way it's like voicetracking.
Jacko
<P ID="signature">______________
I live for my dream,
And a pocket full of gold.
</P>
> This is not rocket science -
> find out when the show is airing live, in real time, and
> call THEN, and sit on hold until they decide if they want to
> take your call or not.
>
> Hours later, you will get to hear yourself on the air if
> they chose to take your call. How can you be in two places
> at once when you're not anywhere at all? :0)
>
By the way, even though 'RKO is running Savage tape delayed they still have their _own_ intro saying, "Live--it's the Michael Savage Show" (along with "adult
language, adult content, psychological nudity"--and the network also runs an
intro with THAT part). Nope, actually taped. Whatever.
WBAL runs Rush in the middle of the night, tape delayed. They make no
announcement saying "This is previously recorded. No phone calls please."
They figure EVERYONE knows Rush is on 12-3 ET...and clearly when you tune
in at 2:45 am, it's yesterday's show, so don't call.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> find out when the show is airing live, in real time, and
> call THEN, and sit on hold until they decide if they want to
> take your call or not.
>
> Hours later, you will get to hear yourself on the air if
> they chose to take your call. How can you be in two places
> at once when you're not anywhere at all? :0)
>
By the way, even though 'RKO is running Savage tape delayed they still have their _own_ intro saying, "Live--it's the Michael Savage Show" (along with "adult
language, adult content, psychological nudity"--and the network also runs an
intro with THAT part). Nope, actually taped. Whatever.
WBAL runs Rush in the middle of the night, tape delayed. They make no
announcement saying "This is previously recorded. No phone calls please."
They figure EVERYONE knows Rush is on 12-3 ET...and clearly when you tune
in at 2:45 am, it's yesterday's show, so don't call.<P ID="signature">______________
Callers can really make some shows... Especially when there are no guests. However, they are for the most part, irrelevant. What percentage of listeners EVER call in? 5%?
> > This is not rocket science -
> > find out when the show is airing live, in real time, and
> > call THEN, and sit on hold until they decide if they want
> to
> > take your call or not.
> > This is not rocket science -
> > find out when the show is airing live, in real time, and
> > call THEN, and sit on hold until they decide if they want
> to
> > take your call or not.
> Callers can really make some shows... Especially when there
> are no guests. However, they are for the most part,
> irrelevant. What percentage of listeners EVER call in? 5%?
1% will EVER call in. Decades of years listening and that few will ever call in. 1 in 1000(s) on a particular day. Figure that even shows like Rush and Hannity don't have much over a dozen lines each, how hard is it to get through anyway?
BTW, Lars Larson wastes money playing a recorded message with the live show time on his toll-free number. Any other shows do the same? Most either busy it out like a music station or let it ring.
> are no guests. However, they are for the most part,
> irrelevant. What percentage of listeners EVER call in? 5%?
1% will EVER call in. Decades of years listening and that few will ever call in. 1 in 1000(s) on a particular day. Figure that even shows like Rush and Hannity don't have much over a dozen lines each, how hard is it to get through anyway?
BTW, Lars Larson wastes money playing a recorded message with the live show time on his toll-free number. Any other shows do the same? Most either busy it out like a music station or let it ring.
the caller is on hold listening
> This is sort of a general question about stations that air
> delayed shows. Are they expecting to lose all callers from
> that city? Here in Boston, shows like Laura or Hannity are
> delayed on WTKK, so how can you follow the topic and call
> in? With Savage, I've heard him mention in the past how
> he'd like to have more callers from Boston. But now that
> he's on a delay here in Boston and in Providence, you'll
> never know what's being discussed unless you get a live
> stream from somewhere else, in which case the radio version
> is pointless anyway.
I would assume the caller is on hold listening to the show live for 10+ minutes over the phone so the caller will be able to follow.
> This is sort of a general question about stations that air
> delayed shows. Are they expecting to lose all callers from
> that city? Here in Boston, shows like Laura or Hannity are
> delayed on WTKK, so how can you follow the topic and call
> in? With Savage, I've heard him mention in the past how
> he'd like to have more callers from Boston. But now that
> he's on a delay here in Boston and in Providence, you'll
> never know what's being discussed unless you get a live
> stream from somewhere else, in which case the radio version
> is pointless anyway.
I would assume the caller is on hold listening to the show live for 10+ minutes over the phone so the caller will be able to follow.
Re: the caller is on hold listening
> I would assume the caller is on hold listening to the show
> live for 10+ minutes over the phone so the caller will be
> able to follow.
You are correct. If the program is on, say, an 8 second delay, the caller is hearing what is on the audio board, pre-delay. This is why, when you hear a talk show live, for example, the host will constantly tell you to turn your radio down. (also prevents feedback) On the air you are hearing the program post-delay, and the tendency is for the listener to wait for his own voice to "catch up". When we used a digital delay, the system would look for pauses after a call was dumped (for whatever reason)to "build up" the cache, up to the full 8 seconds. Digital delay systems make this really easy to do - back in the day it involved a complicated system of tape loops (how long does it take for a tape to physically travel from point A to point B at a given tape speed)
I can tell you several things as fact, from my own days producing talk radio:
most listeners never, ever call. You tend to hear from the same people over and over again. Many callers have absolutely nothing valid to add to the topic being discussed. Like someone who spraypaints graffiti on the side of a building, they just want to hear the sound of their own voice on the air - just to say that they got on. When I would screen callers, if they could not make their basic point to me in 5 seconds, I would not put them on the air. I was constantly amazed/amused to see how long some callers would sit on hold - sometimes for HOURS! A good producer will keep the pace of the program popping right along,
working in tandem with the program host. It is an art form if done properly...
> I would assume the caller is on hold listening to the show
> live for 10+ minutes over the phone so the caller will be
> able to follow.
You are correct. If the program is on, say, an 8 second delay, the caller is hearing what is on the audio board, pre-delay. This is why, when you hear a talk show live, for example, the host will constantly tell you to turn your radio down. (also prevents feedback) On the air you are hearing the program post-delay, and the tendency is for the listener to wait for his own voice to "catch up". When we used a digital delay, the system would look for pauses after a call was dumped (for whatever reason)to "build up" the cache, up to the full 8 seconds. Digital delay systems make this really easy to do - back in the day it involved a complicated system of tape loops (how long does it take for a tape to physically travel from point A to point B at a given tape speed)
I can tell you several things as fact, from my own days producing talk radio:
most listeners never, ever call. You tend to hear from the same people over and over again. Many callers have absolutely nothing valid to add to the topic being discussed. Like someone who spraypaints graffiti on the side of a building, they just want to hear the sound of their own voice on the air - just to say that they got on. When I would screen callers, if they could not make their basic point to me in 5 seconds, I would not put them on the air. I was constantly amazed/amused to see how long some callers would sit on hold - sometimes for HOURS! A good producer will keep the pace of the program popping right along,
working in tandem with the program host. It is an art form if done properly...
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