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When I worked at a big top40 in Seattle, late 80’s, the overnight guy ran a special request show that began at 2am. I can’t remember what it was called, but was extremely popular. Think super serving a limited audience. Brilliant! Without offering too much, the frequency was 101.5. Today think of stars.
 
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re: AM stereo failure - something to learn from, stereo caught on w/vinyl LPs, FM, TV (and movies) but not AM (quad sound faded away in late 1976 and came back in mid-1982 due to a marketing change - calling it surround sound and tying it to movie soundtracks [at first]).

I rarely listened to WLS AM though (I listened to KIIK, KRNA, KQCR FMs), I probably read about them broadcasting AM stereo in one of the monthly Audio/Electronics mags.

Anyway, I'm glad the WLS AM DJ did answer my question (to the best of her ability).


Kirk Bayne
 
When I was a DJ at a community station for a few months in 1990 I took calls. Most of the DJs there did if they had the time. It was considered PR for the station. I can't see where that would work now, with so many stations being voicetracked, even locally. Even most talk shows don't really take calls.

Taking actual calls, on a phone -- it's a relic from a former time.
 
When I was a DJ at a community station for a few months in 1990 I took calls. Most of the DJs there did if they had the time. It was considered PR for the station. I can't see where that would work now, with so many stations being voicetracked, even locally. Even most talk shows don't really take calls.

Taking actual calls, on a phone -- it's a relic from a former time.

KLMI 106.1 where im still on the air answers listener calls 6am to 5pm, theyre live 6 to 10.. tracked the rest of the day, but someone will answer whatever phone rings... if all thats there is the office person, he answers the phone... if the owner is there, he answers the phone (hes there 3 1/2 to 4 days a week)
 
As a child I called the evening jock on local station and asked why the music sounded different on the station compared to playing a record at home. He replied, "oh that's the CBS limiters" That is how it started for me.
 
Compression . It made songs over air sound better.
To an extent, an amount of compression helped in-car listening where the noise level is high. But most of the help in listenability came from AGC, which was the function of the Audimax. That part of the CBS pair made lower level parts of content louder while doing some high peak leveling. The Volumax finished the job, making the high modulation level legal and as loud as possible.
 
Even most talk shows don't really take calls.

Taking actual calls, on a phone -- it's a relic from a former time.
I have seen it explained that "Car Talk" on NPR had someone call the callers, who had left messages, and then they would be put on with Click and Clack who answered as if they had never heard the caller and had to have the problem explained to them, and the calls would be put together into a show. Still, they didn't prepare in advance because that would be "work". Is this what you're saying happens?
 
I have seen it explained that "Car Talk" on NPR had someone call the callers, who had left messages.
That's correct. Listeners with questions would leave them in a voicemail. Producer would call them back, hear how their present the question, then set up a time Thursday afternoon to call them back. They would have the questions stacked and ready to send calls to air/recording.
and then they would be put on with Click and Clack who answered as if they had never heard the caller and had to have the problem explained to them, and the calls would be put together into a show.
Correct too. Some editing for time and language is done after the show records.
Still, they didn't prepare in advance because that would be "work". Is this what you're saying happens?
There needs to be a certain amount of spontaneity, especially with guys like the Magliozzi brothers because they were mechanics, not actors.
 
I think Kelly hit on something important here. Many talk shows run edited calls for effect. Sure, some still take calls live, but many use calls that have been canned for quality control. Frankly, the old ways of taking callers was more fun because it was more unpredictable. But unpredictable is not much of a ratings incentive in most cases. I kind of miss the unpredictable.
 
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I think Kelly hit on something important here. Many talk shows run edited calls for effect. Sure, some still take calls live, but many use calls that have been canned for quality control. Frankly, the old ways of taking callers was more fun because it was more unpredictable. But unpredictable is not much of a ratings incentive in most cases. I kind of miss the unpredictable.
Specific theme shows can do that, because each call is a separate subject. In Kelly's example, the lousy carburetor in the 87 Mustang followed by the best brand of replacement shocks.

But topical current events shows play off the content of prior calls and need to be live.
 
I still hear little soundbites of callers in between songs on some stations..."when are you giving away those tickets for [insert band here]?" Sometimes I will hear a request on Tom Kent's shows. And of course, Delilah still takes phone dedications. But in reality, I haven't heard a LOCAL station take a song request from a phone caller in a long time. My guess is the syndicated show 'requests' are prerecorded days or weeks in advance.
 
Smoke and mirrors. Live requests may exist on some stations, but most are canned and in a library definitely designed to assist the product. Most even program them into their voice tracks. Far cry when I worked a Seattle top40 FM in the late 80', when we actually recorded real callers in real time, and played it back within 10 minutes. Don't know if it made much difference, but I am certain it did with the caller, who probably would never get a ratings survey, but if did, would be a goldmine. Kind of like playing the radio lottery.
 
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I still hear little soundbites of callers in between songs on some stations..."when are you giving away those tickets for [insert band here]?" Sometimes I will hear a request on Tom Kent's shows. And of course, Delilah still takes phone dedications. But in reality, I haven't heard a LOCAL station take a song request from a phone caller in a long time. My guess is the syndicated show 'requests' are prerecorded days or weeks in advance.
A local station, WVVV (V96.9) in Parkersburg, West Virginia takes calls weekdays 12 noon to 1 pm.
 
And of course, Delilah still takes phone dedications. But in reality, I haven't heard a LOCAL station take a song request from a phone caller in a long time. My guess is the syndicated show 'requests' are prerecorded days or weeks in advance.
It was discussed in another Radio Discussions thread that in recent years, Delilah basically spends hours per day taking calls, which are recorded and then then later selected, edited, etc. and they're used in the following day's show in many cases. That wasn't the way it was done in the earlier years of her program, but now there are a few versions of her program (especially during the holidays when some stations run a holiday version, while others stick with her standard AC format), some stations use her content and callers, but program their own music from their local libraries, etc.
 
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I still hear little soundbites of callers in between songs on some stations..."when are you giving away those tickets for [insert band here]?" Sometimes I will hear a request on Tom Kent's shows. And of course, Delilah still takes phone dedications.
Those calls weren't live either. Chances are they were from several days prior.
But in reality, I haven't heard a LOCAL station take a song request from a phone caller in a long time. My guess is the syndicated show 'requests' are prerecorded days or weeks in advance.
Since voicetracking is pretty much the norm, it's hard to take live calls when you're cranking out two or three VT'ed shows per day.
 
Don't know if it made much difference, but I am certain it did with the caller, who probably would never get a ratings survey, but if did, would be a goldmine. Kind of like playing the radio lottery.
That was the problem with diary ratings; in spite of Karen having her dedication played on the Neal and Bob Morning Zoo, chances are she was never sent a diary. In fact, most people never tracked what station they listened-to on a daily, let alone hourly basis, and would just wing-it by filling the diary out the day before it was due.
 
All of this mess because Reagan got rid of the real engineers at the FCC and staffed it with political appointees who didn't know how to actually test the AM Stereo systems being proposed, initially picked the worst one (Magnavox) based on "engineering estimates" (i.e. rock-paper-scissors), and then gave in to Leonard Kahn browbeating them with "let the marketplace decide!"
That's not true. The Magnavox system was the superior AM stereo system decided when actual engineers still occupied the Commission. By the time Leonard Kahn started suing everyone, was when Magnavox bowed out of the competition, deciding not to sell their system to stations. Magnavox also felt the interest in the AM stereo market was too limited from a future business perspective. The only person who felt the Commission made the wrong call was Leonard, who felt his ISB system should have been the selected system.
 
It was Belar who dropped out of the AM Stereo race when the FCC announced the marketplace decision. The Belar system was different from the others in that it used FM to transmit the L-R stereo difference component, rather than phase or quadrature modulation.

You could write a whole book about how the FCC screwed up the AM Stereo decision -- and someone actually did:

 
It was Belar who dropped out of the AM Stereo race when the FCC announced the marketplace decision. The Belar system was different from the others in that it used FM to transmit the L-R stereo difference component, rather than phase or quadrature modulation.

You could write a whole book about how the FCC screwed up the AM Stereo decision -- and someone actually did:

Belar dropped out before the final decision was made. Magnavox dropped out when Leonard Kahn started suing everyone.
This whole discussion that keeps resurfacing, along with revisionist history, is all moot anyway. Talk about a tempest in a teapot.
Why a handful of Luddites keep derailing topics to relive failed and long dead AM stereo, is beyond me.
 
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