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Can 87.7 be moved to the Empire State Building?

nd2023

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Would it be possible to move Pulse 87 to the t-t-t-t-t-top of the Empire State Building, with the appropriate power reduction?
 
I don't think they can. Even if they wanted to try to do so as a "television station", being low-powered, they could not boost up power to where they currently are...under FCC rules. On a financial level, it's cheaper for them to pay rent for the "stick" at that "big blue building" in Queens (Citigroup, LIC) versus the ESB.
 
It's unfortunate for anyone living in Midtown Manhattan (like me), although that's not a neighborhood that Pulse is probably targeting. The signal is pretty much inaudible for me between about 50th and 14th Streets on the west side, where I live, and not very reliable in many places I travel around the area.

How would an ESB transmitter help their signal overall across the metropolitan area? I'm under the impression they'd be trading a better antenna height for a power reduction, but get better overall coverage around the area. It can't be that simple, I'm sure.
 
icybluelake said:
It's unfortunate for anyone living in Midtown Manhattan (like me), although that's not a neighborhood that Pulse is probably targeting. The signal is pretty much inaudible for me between about 50th and 14th Streets on the west side, where I live, and not very reliable in many places I travel around the area.

On the Henry Hudson Parkway, Pulse comes in fine. But when it becomes the West Side Highway, I start getting a lot of static around 34th Street. A friend of mine works in Hoboken and can barely get in Pulse at all.
 
The multipath from the Empire State Building and the barriers that the Midtown skyscrapers create lead to Pulse's weakened signal in Midtown Manhattan and areas directly across from it in New Jersey. Even then, a lot depends on location. I was able to get Pulse on my tiny Radio Shack radio with a clear signal in a hotel room at the Hotel Pennsylvania, right in the shadow of ESB (albeit with the antenna fully extended).

It may actually be possible for them to move up to the ESB though but it would almost definitely require a power reduction as well as some tinkering with their signal pattern to protect Channel 6 in Philadelphia, even after the switchover to digital, as they will be using Channel 6 for their DTV broadcast after the Feb. 2009 switchover. As an example, I believe that the LPTV on Channel 6 in Chicago managed to move to the John Hancock Tower, which along with the Sears Tower, is home to Chicago's FM and TV stations.
 
Power would have to be WAY reduced, and the signal more highly directionalized, to protect both WPVI in Philly and WRGB in the Capital District, and prevent the signal contour from getting bigger in the direction of other Channel 6 stations in Providence and in western Pennsylvania. It probably would create more signal problems than it solves, even if it could be done.
 
#1 The Empire State Building is filled with FM & TV transmitters already. All of the analog TV transmitters that were on the World Trade Center were replaced on the ESB. Plus, they have added in some new HDTV Transmitters. Some of the new HDTV transmitters had to be place at 4 Times Square because of space issues. A good part of the problem
is getting up to the top of the ESB from the Transmitters (on lower floors) to Antenna. I hear it's pretty tight.

#2 FM is line of site. If you can see the antenna, you have a better shot at good reception.
The FCC has rules that deal with the combination of Height & Power. (HAAT)Antenna Height Above Average Terrain

If the station got moved to the ESB, the Power would probably be reduced, but with the higher transmitting point
might give better reception to lower elevation areas. Right now about 640ft above ground, on ESB about 1450ft.
 
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