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can Progressive Talk take over the expanded band

What if progressive radio started getting licenses for the expanded band, starting in Boston and sweeping across the nation. Any thoughts? How much power would the FCC approve?

Progressive Radio rules on the expanded band...
 
1 milliwatt legally, though I'll bet some of the stations on there now have a lot more power than that (but are
not being shut down). As far as I know the only licensed station on the X-band is Logan Info at 1650. Most
of the pirates seem to be foreign language, but now that Rumba has arrived I would think the Hispanic
audience might no longer see a need and maybe there's room for someone to go on (but, legally...?) As for the FCC, I'm not sure they could license somebody and if so,
at a power that would serve a large number of people.

For now there's always the college/public stations that do offer shows like Democracy Now (and WMWM's Thu
night block comes to mind)...
 
Most legitimate licensed stations in the expanded AM band nationwide are limited to 10,000 watts day, 1000 watts night, though there are a few exceptions above those limits. Still, that wouldn't be a bad signal.

Who would foot the bill for the costs of constructing these new stations?
 
>>Who would foot the bill for the costs of constructing these new stations?

Mr. Soros, Mr. Kerry (five mansions at last count, and $700mil in ketchup money), a nation turns its lonely eyes to you...Hey! Mr. Glaser! Sure, we know you'll
never see that $10 million you "loaned" to Air America again, but you're a zillionaire! Surely you
can help fund expanded band Air America. "Real" change comes from GOOD billionaires! ;D
 
Eli, you're the man.

A mutual friend wrote this to me privately, do you know the cost:

" I wonder what it would take to get a CP-- I assume they are really expensive..."
 
Dear Oprah,

Infidel said you'd be interested in the new Expanded Band Progressive Radio project we are planning.

Here's a list of current EB stations
AM Expanded-Band Stations in the United States
This page provides a summary listing, in frequency order, of the radio stations in and near the United States currently operating in the range of 1610 to 1700 kHz, the portion of the AM dial that is called the "expanded band." The list excludes TISs and HARs.
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/dxing/xband.html

We need huge bucks for a CP. If the Construction Permit is allowed on real estate that you own, we will keep it out of the hands of David Letterman's Worldwide Pants, Jay Leno and your good friend Jerry Springer

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/initialCP.html

Your Initial Construction Permit for a New Broadcast Radio Station

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/infoCP.html#STUDIO

Signed,

Friends of Infidel
Friends of Fidel
Friends of Infamous Broadcasting, LTD
 
If "progressives" were sincere in their desire for a voice they'd adopt The Italian Approach.

Dunno if they're still at it....but it wasn't all that long ago that one "out" party in Italy decided government radio was being unfair. So they started their own stations.

Radio.

TV.

Unlicensed.

Hundreds of them. Many of them mobile.

It was impossible for government so shut them all down.

Today it would be even easier. No need to program each one. Set up a central 'studio' offshore to stream to the Internet. Each station might consist of a 10-Watt FM transmitter (Armstrong makes an excellent one which is frequency-agile and requires no electronic skills to activate); a cheap laptop hitch-hiking on somebody's unprotected wireless connection, a couple of car batteries and an inexpensive VHF antenna. Scala makes a nice one though it may be a little more rugged than absolutely needed.

These are so cheap that a George Soros could fund ten thousand out of them for less than he spends of beer and pretzels each year. Even if such a person doesn't really care for beer & pretzels. Wouldn't even have to move 'em around; just set 'em up and abandon them so noboby is nearby if the FCC ever moved in on one. Run 'em off enough batteries and they could be put on high ground or tall buildings wherever access could be gained.

Would work best in major population centers where perhaps fifty could be turned on overnight, blanketing the FM dial entirely, ensuring that there is retribution for all the years of right-wing talk dominance.

But I guess whining about lack of balance IS easier......
 
I think a better place would be HD2. When the alliance dissolves all of these stations will be looking for programming for their HD2's. This would be a relatively inexpensive one if you could show them they would have some listeners. For you you'd have it on a big Boston FM signal and a little time to get it going. Most of the folks into this movement would have no problem buying the receivers. The 149. one at Radio Shack sounds great! It's a win-win situation unlike many of your other ideas one I think you could sell if you started working now.
 
Johnny said:
I think a better place would be HD2. When the alliance dissolves all of these stations will be looking for programming for their HD2's. This would be a relatively inexpensive one if you could show them they would have some listeners. For you you'd have it on a big Boston FM signal and a little time to get it going. Most of the folks into this movement would have no problem buying the receivers. The 149. one at Radio Shack sounds great! It's a win-win situation unlike many of your other ideas one I think you could sell if you started working now.


If any group is willing to the non-traditional route they could do it much cheaper with subcarrier leasing. Digital receivers cost considerably more than subcarrier receivers; I've seen some for under $50. One case, in or near Jackson, California: An FM was sold to become a Sacramento Spanish-language rimshot, leaving a somewhat rural community with zero local service. Folks arranged to lease a subcarrier and cut a deal to buy subcarrier receivers in bulk and re-sell them near cost through local stores. A lot of free publicity from social organizations and schools whose sports and closing announcements are featured. It's not a big money maker but it pays it's own freight. If a lot of folks who feel disenfranchised under conventional rules actually were serious they could make their voices heard cheaply and legally.
 
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