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Nertz
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When I am down the shore I like to watch NBC 40, which is better than NBC 10. Is there some way to watch it in Philadelphia?
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mattkoons
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> When I am down the shore I like to watch NBC 40, which is
> better than NBC 10. Is there some way to watch it in
> Philadelphia?
>
Better than NBC 10??? You must be kiddin'
-- Matt
> better than NBC 10. Is there some way to watch it in
> Philadelphia?
>
Better than NBC 10??? You must be kiddin'
-- Matt
> When I am down the shore I like to watch NBC 40, which is
> better than NBC 10. Is there some way to watch it in
> Philadelphia?
>
One can't even receive them in South (west) Jersey. A TBN repeater (why, with WGTW-TBN is a low power 40 still necessary), from Wilmington,DE airs on CH.40. And their digital signal likely doesn't even cover full of Atlantic County, likely just Wildwood, or Cape May County.
> better than NBC 10. Is there some way to watch it in
> Philadelphia?
>
One can't even receive them in South (west) Jersey. A TBN repeater (why, with WGTW-TBN is a low power 40 still necessary), from Wilmington,DE airs on CH.40. And their digital signal likely doesn't even cover full of Atlantic County, likely just Wildwood, or Cape May County.
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KML0224
Guest
Why does the Phildelphia DMA even have two NBC affiliates in the first place?
> Why does the Phildelphia DMA even have two NBC affiliates in
> the first place?
Because when it was originally licensed, Wildwood (the COL of WMGM) wasn't considered to be in the Philadelphia DMA, KYW (then the NBC affiliate in Philadelphia) couldn't reach the shore area, and there was little or no cable television in the area.
Now, it's pretty much grandfathered in.
Don't forget, Channel 40 has been an NBC affiliate nearly four times as long as WCAU has!
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> the first place?
Because when it was originally licensed, Wildwood (the COL of WMGM) wasn't considered to be in the Philadelphia DMA, KYW (then the NBC affiliate in Philadelphia) couldn't reach the shore area, and there was little or no cable television in the area.
Now, it's pretty much grandfathered in.
Don't forget, Channel 40 has been an NBC affiliate nearly four times as long as WCAU has!
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bierkenstock
Guest
We get it but we can't receive it
Channel 10 is an NBC Owned and Operated station, not an affiliate.
NBC is under no obligation to continue its affiliation with channel 40.
Channel 10 must think somebody is watching at the shore; they keep wasting time in the morning news with pictures from shore cams during the weather report, even in the middle of winter. Not just the Jersey show, they also do Rehobeth, which is not in the Philly TV market and never was. Why should anybody care what the ocean looks like at 6 am when you're someplace else and not even thinking about going there? Ridiculous. Also ridiculous: Long traffic reports when there is no traffic and then they cut out traffic reports just when Rush hour gets started. Having "live" reporters out where something happened yesterday (or will happen later in the day). All the inance chatter between Ken and Barbie.
> Now, it's pretty much grandfathered in.
>
> Don't forget, Channel 40 has been an NBC affiliate nearly
> four times as long as WCAU has!
>
Channel 10 is an NBC Owned and Operated station, not an affiliate.
NBC is under no obligation to continue its affiliation with channel 40.
Channel 10 must think somebody is watching at the shore; they keep wasting time in the morning news with pictures from shore cams during the weather report, even in the middle of winter. Not just the Jersey show, they also do Rehobeth, which is not in the Philly TV market and never was. Why should anybody care what the ocean looks like at 6 am when you're someplace else and not even thinking about going there? Ridiculous. Also ridiculous: Long traffic reports when there is no traffic and then they cut out traffic reports just when Rush hour gets started. Having "live" reporters out where something happened yesterday (or will happen later in the day). All the inance chatter between Ken and Barbie.
> Now, it's pretty much grandfathered in.
>
> Don't forget, Channel 40 has been an NBC affiliate nearly
> four times as long as WCAU has!
>
Re: We get it but we can't receive it
> Channel 10 is an NBC Owned and Operated station, not an
> affiliate.
>
> NBC is under no obligation to continue its affiliation with
> channel 40.
>
NBC doesn't care about the station. If it were to become an infomercial channel, NBC wouldn't gain anything. As it is now, NBC doesn't lose anything; WMGM doesn't draw enough ratings where WCAU is adversely affected. If anything it's just little more exposure for the network.
Comcast carries WCAU-HD, and DirecTV and Dish only carry WCAU.
Comcast does notice the station. Comcast would benefit, in being the only television source for local Atlantic and Cape May County advertising, if WMGM were to not be NBC affiliate but be a nobody, like WMCN. But Comcast cannot kill the station or its affiliation. It's mustcarry, where the Wildwood city of license is closer than Philadelphia.
And NBC has a retransmission agreement with Comcast for all the NBC O&Os throughout the entire claimed DMAs, so WCAU, too popular of a channel there anyways, cannot be dropped by the shore, as duplicative. Anyways, Comcast needs WCAU-HD to stay competitive over the satellite companies who do not offer Philly local high def, so Comcast doesn't have an upperhand to either get WMGM's affiliation killed, or WCAU's cable coverage area smallened by two counties.
Speaking of local Atlantic and Cape May County advertising, I wonder if WCAU gets a share of WMGM-TV's local advertising revenue.
> Channel 10 must think somebody is watching at the shore;
> they keep wasting time in the morning news with pictures
> from shore cams during the weather report, even in the
> middle of winter. Not just the Jersey show, they also do
> Rehobeth, which is not in the Philly TV market and never
> was. Why should anybody care what the ocean looks like at 6
> am when you're someplace else and not even thinking about
> going there? Ridiculous. Also ridiculous: Long traffic
> reports when there is no traffic and then they cut out
> traffic reports just when Rush hour gets started. Having
> "live" reporters out where something happened yesterday (or
> will happen later in the day). All the inance chatter
> between Ken and Barbie.
>
>
> > Now, it's pretty much grandfathered in.
> >
> > Don't forget, Channel 40 has been an NBC affiliate nearly
> > four times as long as WCAU has!
> >
>
> Channel 10 is an NBC Owned and Operated station, not an
> affiliate.
>
> NBC is under no obligation to continue its affiliation with
> channel 40.
>
NBC doesn't care about the station. If it were to become an infomercial channel, NBC wouldn't gain anything. As it is now, NBC doesn't lose anything; WMGM doesn't draw enough ratings where WCAU is adversely affected. If anything it's just little more exposure for the network.
Comcast carries WCAU-HD, and DirecTV and Dish only carry WCAU.
Comcast does notice the station. Comcast would benefit, in being the only television source for local Atlantic and Cape May County advertising, if WMGM were to not be NBC affiliate but be a nobody, like WMCN. But Comcast cannot kill the station or its affiliation. It's mustcarry, where the Wildwood city of license is closer than Philadelphia.
And NBC has a retransmission agreement with Comcast for all the NBC O&Os throughout the entire claimed DMAs, so WCAU, too popular of a channel there anyways, cannot be dropped by the shore, as duplicative. Anyways, Comcast needs WCAU-HD to stay competitive over the satellite companies who do not offer Philly local high def, so Comcast doesn't have an upperhand to either get WMGM's affiliation killed, or WCAU's cable coverage area smallened by two counties.
Speaking of local Atlantic and Cape May County advertising, I wonder if WCAU gets a share of WMGM-TV's local advertising revenue.
> Channel 10 must think somebody is watching at the shore;
> they keep wasting time in the morning news with pictures
> from shore cams during the weather report, even in the
> middle of winter. Not just the Jersey show, they also do
> Rehobeth, which is not in the Philly TV market and never
> was. Why should anybody care what the ocean looks like at 6
> am when you're someplace else and not even thinking about
> going there? Ridiculous. Also ridiculous: Long traffic
> reports when there is no traffic and then they cut out
> traffic reports just when Rush hour gets started. Having
> "live" reporters out where something happened yesterday (or
> will happen later in the day). All the inance chatter
> between Ken and Barbie.
>
>
> > Now, it's pretty much grandfathered in.
> >
> > Don't forget, Channel 40 has been an NBC affiliate nearly
> > four times as long as WCAU has!
> >
>
> > Why does the Phildelphia DMA even have two NBC affiliates
> in
> > the first place?
>
> Because when it was originally licensed, Wildwood (the COL
> of WMGM) wasn't considered to be in the Philadelphia DMA,
> KYW (then the NBC affiliate in Philadelphia) couldn't reach
> the shore area, and there was little or no cable television
> in the area.
>
> Now, it's pretty much grandfathered in.
>
> Don't forget, Channel 40 has been an NBC affiliate nearly
> four times as long as WCAU has!
>
The station rides on its Wildwood City of license, but its office, primary viewing and advertising efforts are for the more populated Atlantic County, that can get NBC10 over the air.
> in
> > the first place?
>
> Because when it was originally licensed, Wildwood (the COL
> of WMGM) wasn't considered to be in the Philadelphia DMA,
> KYW (then the NBC affiliate in Philadelphia) couldn't reach
> the shore area, and there was little or no cable television
> in the area.
>
> Now, it's pretty much grandfathered in.
>
> Don't forget, Channel 40 has been an NBC affiliate nearly
> four times as long as WCAU has!
>
The station rides on its Wildwood City of license, but its office, primary viewing and advertising efforts are for the more populated Atlantic County, that can get NBC10 over the air.
Re: We get it but we can't receive it
> > Not just the Jersey show, they also do Rehobeth, which is not in the Philly TV market and never was. Why should anybody care what the ocean looks like at 6 am when you're someplace else and not even thinking about going there? Ridiculous.
Same thing with the Poconos. They are and never will be in the Philadelphia market, unless Scranton disappears off the face of the Earth.<P ID="signature">______________
Cary from Cherry Hill, NJ</P>
> > Not just the Jersey show, they also do Rehobeth, which is not in the Philly TV market and never was. Why should anybody care what the ocean looks like at 6 am when you're someplace else and not even thinking about going there? Ridiculous.
Same thing with the Poconos. They are and never will be in the Philadelphia market, unless Scranton disappears off the face of the Earth.<P ID="signature">______________
Cary from Cherry Hill, NJ</P>
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