Hi, I just wanted to let you know we're getting fed up with the American media. There's just too much sleaze out there. But here's a better suggestion: tell the cable companies to get Canadian TV out there (CBC, CTV, Global, etc.) soon. They don't talk out about Idol all the time, the newscasts don't start out with a shooting, all you see on Canadian TV is that they've got real news, like ours does. Plus the Canadian people have more international correspondents than the three major American networks combined. Plus you can get your Peter Mansbridge & your Don Cherry & Hockey Night, & your Lloyd Robertson, plus get your shows based in Canada as well. Why can't the Canadian system work in America as well? Just tell congress we're getting fed up with Rupert & big media & tell them to put the Canadian TV networks here in America. Change should be coming to the American system soon! Thanks.
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Canadian TV in the US
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dgendvil said:
CTV, Global, etc. would probably be off the air more than they were on, due to syndicated-exclusivity rules... (the cable systems would be required to blank them when the same program is on one of the U.S. stations)
But yes, it does seem a bit absurd that while U.S. stations are available nationwide by cable in Canada, Canadian TV is only available within 100km or so of the border and then, usually only one station. (CBC) Almost nobody in the U.S. has access to foreign media, and then we wonder why Americans are so ignorant of the outside world.
(yes, we can watch foreign TV over the Internet but nobody does.)
A number of foregin networks are avalible on DirecTV and Dish networks with the right packages. A number of cable networks from Mexico are now avalible on most U.S. cable systems (in most cases part of a seperate Hispanic digital package); China's English language CCTV 9 and Japan's TVK Network are now part of the expanded digital line-up on a number of U.S Cable systems.
All of this is true.That brings us back to the question, why no Canadian TV in most of the U-S-A? C-T-V imports a lot of U-S programming but the
CBC does not.
CBC does not.
fussbudget said:
The big problem, of course, is that most Canadian television is in English and would therefore compete for U.S. audience with most of the over-the-air and cable networks. U.S. cable systems can import Mexican, Chinese and Japanese programs because they cater to niche audiences less inclined to watch English television. That's the biggest distinction. The other problem is that most programming originating in Canada, what there is of it, isn't as good as American television so few domestic operators would want to risk carrying it. There are exceptions, of course, including that comedy about the gas station (which has been airing on superstation WGN). I tsuspect the U.S. industry deliberately insulates itself from Canadian competition by guaranteeing that Canadian actors and production facilities are used for U.S. shows in exchange for the Canadians producing less quality stuff that could compete for audience in the U.S. The alternative is that all the Canadian actors and crews would be spending time working on more stuff of their own that could be more competitive here.
dgendvil said:
While it would be nice to see some Canadian content...have you actually seen the program schedules of the major Canadian networks and 'systems'?
Here's CTV:
http://www.ctv.ca/generic/generated/tvlist/CKYtvlist.html
Here's Global:
http://www.canada.com/globaltv/list...startday=2008/05/15&starthour=1800&category=0
Here's Citytv (Toronto):
http://www.citytv.com/toronto/tvschedule.aspx?date=5-13-2008
Here's E! (CHCH Hamilton):
http://www.canada.com/ch/chchnews/listing/index.html?startday=&starthour=1800&category=
Here's A-Channel (probably "Much TV" by year's end):
http://www.achannel.ca/home/tvschedule.aspx?date=5-13-2008
Notice a majority of the programming content comes from the United States.
Now when it comes to CBC/SRC, you do get some more Canadian-based content. But even the CBC will be increasing U.S. programming in the not-too-distant future when it picks up "Wheel of Fortune" and "Jeopardy!".
So while much of U.S. TV could be considered trash, Canadian TV may not be the best alternative to it.
You need to ask the show producers not the network.
Most CBC shows are independently produced and CBC only has the rights within Canada.
I'm sure the producers are holding out for some kind of US deal.
No takers?
Most CBC shows are independently produced and CBC only has the rights within Canada.
I'm sure the producers are holding out for some kind of US deal.
No takers?
When BUD's (Big Ugly Dishes) were popular back in the 80's and 90's and Canadian satellite TV was not encrypted with a proprietary code I used to watch TV from the Frozen North quite a bit. Not only sports (mainly hockey) but their news programs and a few of their produced shows as well. It was quite tame by US standards, even back then, but it was a nice change from the garbage shown here.
Then Canada encrypted and you now have to use a 'grey' subscription and Canadian address to watch their satellite services.
Our choices get fewer as the technology increases. Seems it should be the opposite.
Then Canada encrypted and you now have to use a 'grey' subscription and Canadian address to watch their satellite services.
Our choices get fewer as the technology increases. Seems it should be the opposite.
Good point about the relationship between technology and choices being the opposite of what one would expect.
I travel internationally, and am repeatedly struck by how just about everywhere BUT the United States, its usually relatively easy to find choices from at least a handful of other countries in addition to the local fare of whatever nation you happen to be in.
And yes....the locals in other parts of the globe tend to be amazed at how little we know about what goes on outside our own borders. And in some cases, how little we know about what goes on inside our own borders. (For example, its been demonstrated that the average Canadian knows more about U.S. geography than the average American!)
I travel internationally, and am repeatedly struck by how just about everywhere BUT the United States, its usually relatively easy to find choices from at least a handful of other countries in addition to the local fare of whatever nation you happen to be in.
And yes....the locals in other parts of the globe tend to be amazed at how little we know about what goes on outside our own borders. And in some cases, how little we know about what goes on inside our own borders. (For example, its been demonstrated that the average Canadian knows more about U.S. geography than the average American!)
cyberdad said:
Most other countries in the world are (1) smaller and (2) not isolated by great expanses of water on both sides. Also, one of our neighbors, Canada, has traditionally broadcast much the same programming as we get here so no great choice. I suspect a similar condition exists in Russia (away from the Eastern European border states) and China and India. I haven't been in Japan or SE Asia in quite some time but when I was there last they were pretty homogenous as well.
cyberdad said:
Re: Canada.....what else is there to know save snow, hockey pucks and Anne Murray? ;D
CBC has never been 100% Canadian programming, the Simpsons has been shown on there for years during weekdays, and there is usually one or 2 shows late afterno0n that are American, not to mention they've been showing Coronation Street for over 40 years (Made in England). The quality of Canadian produced shows has become much better over the past 10 years, whereas before it was almost unwatchable.
While each Canadian tv station/network is mandated to show SOME Canadian content during prime time, it is usually reduced to the first hour of prime time, everything else is American made. Only recently have our home made shows actually managed to draw some sort of an audience on other networks besides the CBC, who has very low ratings.
Now time for some fun, inspired by Landtuna's post.
Name our Capital City? How many provinces do we have? How many territories do we have? What is our ONLY bilingual province? (That one's not as easy as you'd think) And a tough one, who's been playing football (not soccer) longer?
While each Canadian tv station/network is mandated to show SOME Canadian content during prime time, it is usually reduced to the first hour of prime time, everything else is American made. Only recently have our home made shows actually managed to draw some sort of an audience on other networks besides the CBC, who has very low ratings.
Now time for some fun, inspired by Landtuna's post.
Name our Capital City? How many provinces do we have? How many territories do we have? What is our ONLY bilingual province? (That one's not as easy as you'd think) And a tough one, who's been playing football (not soccer) longer?
You want the CBC in the US without worrying about SyndEx? Just relay CBC Windsor across the country. Their status as a Detroit market station means their schedule is free of American overlap.
WGN has carried DaVinci's Inquest and Corner Gas. Perhaps with their proposed changes, they could pick up more Canadian shows. In any case I'd love to see some major US cable network pick up The Red Green Show. It's available on some PBS stations, but the one in my area only shows 2 or 3 certain years from the 90's and early 2000's, nothing newer.
mimo said:
Easy....Ottawa. Been there. Nice palace with a funny flag on top.
mimo said:
OK....I'm doing this from memory (no Wikipedia....honest!)
Provinces are: Ontario, Quebec, Alberta, British Columbia, P.E.I, Newfoundland, and Saskatchawan
mimo said:
Territories are: Northwest, Yukon
mimo said:
Is that a trick question? I'm going to say the obvious - Quebec - but maybe it is one of the Maritimes?
mimo said:
Obviously this is trick. If you'd ask me about hockey I could have answered it. Not sure about football although I suspect from the way you worded your question you guys began first.
mimo said:
Ottawa [If you haven't seen the late John Candy in "Canadian Bacon," it's worth it just for the one scene about Canada's capital]
mimo said:
10: British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, Newfoundland & Labrador, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island
mimo said:
3: The Yukon Territory, The Northwest Territories, and Nunavet
mimo said:
La Quebecois
mimo said:
I'm guessing Canada, but I do know that basketball was invented by a Canadian [Dr. James Naismith was an alum of McGill University in Montreal].
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Canada and Australia have a unique advantage. Both can take the best [or most popular] of American AND British programming. Both are also large enough and rich enough to develop quality programming on their own. Americans may not get to see as much from those countries are they do from ours, but when something Canadian or Australian breaks into the U.S. market, it's almost always top-notch.
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CTV and Global are heavy on U.S. shows, thus those 2 nets are subject to network non-duplication as well as syndex.
In fact, most CTV and Global stations keep their towers as far away from the border as possible. That's so the signal can cover Canada without crossing into the U.S.
CBC Windsor (officially CBET) is considered a foreign station by the FCC. For that reason DirecTV and Dish Network do not carry CBC Windsor with Detroit locals.
In fact, most CTV and Global stations keep their towers as far away from the border as possible. That's so the signal can cover Canada without crossing into the U.S.
Radiofreewill said:
CBC Windsor (officially CBET) is considered a foreign station by the FCC. For that reason DirecTV and Dish Network do not carry CBC Windsor with Detroit locals.
mimo said:
Capital: Ottawa
Provinces: 10 - British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland and Labrador (commonly known as just Newfoundland).
Territories: 3 - Yukon, Northwest, Nunavut. The latter was officially established in 1999; I watched the ceremony, which was carried in the US on PBS.
Bilingual province: All are at least bilingual, as the nation is bilingual, but the only province officially declared bilingual is not Quebec, but New Brunswick. (As seen on its license plate (or licence plate, if you prefer).)
Football: Obviously Canada, as you would not have asked the question otherwise.
You forgot to mention that the QEW is the oldest freeway in North America.
Or that Saskatchewan is the only province that does not observe Daylight Saving Time.
Or that the Newfoundland Time Zone is the only 1/2-hour time zone in North America.
I've always wondered why there wasn't an attempt to put more foreign TV on American TV.
My favourite show in the world was an old Australian soap opera called "Prisoner." ("Prisoner: Cell Block H" in other parts of the world), Australia also has a great talk show called Rove, and the guy hosting it is great. He really brings out the guests personalities. I've seen totally dull celebrities come alive under him.
(I watch those shows on YouTube)
Maybe with the subchannels someone will try to find some content and use some out of market shows. I used to love the British shows on BBC America when I had cable.
My favourite show in the world was an old Australian soap opera called "Prisoner." ("Prisoner: Cell Block H" in other parts of the world), Australia also has a great talk show called Rove, and the guy hosting it is great. He really brings out the guests personalities. I've seen totally dull celebrities come alive under him.
(I watch those shows on YouTube)
Maybe with the subchannels someone will try to find some content and use some out of market shows. I used to love the British shows on BBC America when I had cable.
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