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Can't get HD radio

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Went into circut city and best buy in New Hampshire, both of them don't carry Hd radios, Iask clerks in both stores, they never have and they say they never will, they said there is no damand for them, I know you can get them on line and maybe in smaller stores, but Best Buy and Circut City are the big guys. If they don't carry HD radios, I think this will hurt HD radio.
 
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Went into circut city and best buy in New Hampshire, both of them don't carry Hd radios, Iask clerks in both stores, they never have and they say they never will, they said there is no damand for them, I know you can get them on line and maybe in smaller stores, but Best Buy and Circut City are the big guys. If they don't carry HD radios, I think this will hurt HD radio."


A clerk making the statement "Never Have Never Will" is not someone I'd buy anything from. How does he know what Circuit City or Best Buy will do in the future. By the way, here is a link proving that this guy didn't know what he was talking about;

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7714306&type=product&id=1138086674670

By the way, Circuit City doesn't carry Kenwood either. Just because they don't carry a product or a brand doesn't mean it's not available. You should check out J&R in NYC. They are fast and reliable.

Heer's a place to find an HD radio. They can order it if they don't have one in stock;

http://www.radioshack.com/uc/index....rchLibrary/BuyersGuides/research/hdradio.html

I'd say Radio Shack is at least as large as the two store you mentioned.


Here's a store that's in New hampshire and they sell HD radios;

http://www.tweeter.com/hdradio/

So there you go. I could find others but this should help you. I bought mine from a store in New Jersey (Local store) in February. They are available, if you really want one.
 
These idiots can dump as much money into the ad campaign as they want, but consumers are not going to spend $200 on an ugly, non-portable, table-top HD receiver, when they can get a beautiful Satellite Radio boom-box for $70, plus up to 170 stations. You see right there, the HD Radio industry's mentality that dumping all this money into an ad campaign is going to somehow convice consumers to spend $200 for a table-top AM/FM radio ! HD Radio does not solve any listener problems, because listeners only have a problem with content ! Investors in HD Radio were expecting a payoff after five years - now it has been seven years, with a bleak outlook !
 
SayNoToIBOC said:
These idiots can dump as much money into the ad campaign as they want, but consumers are not going to spend $200 on an ugly, non-portable, table-top HD receiver, when they can get a beautiful Satellite Radio boom-box for $70, plus up to 170 stations. You see right there, the HD Radio industry's mentality that dumping all this money into an ad campaign is going to somehow convice consumers to spend $200 for a table-top AM/FM radio ! HD Radio does not solve any listener problems, because listeners only have a problem with content ! Investors in HD Radio were expecting a payoff after five years - now it has been seven years, with a bleak outlook !
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Hey, we only started installing HD in the last rougly 18 months. This was phase 1 of a plan to get signals on, followed by getting HD 2 channels going. That triggered the ad campaign starting last week, with the intent of getting manufacturers to recognize the seriousness of the HD initiative.

The "payoff" for HD is like the payoff for insurance. It is an investment in maintaining the usage of free terrestrial radio. There is no real revenue payoff, since there are only a finite number of ad dollars in each markedt and only 100 shares of lsitening. The HD 2 channels will fragment radio further, but allow advertisers even better demographically targeted stations, which is what they want.

Satellite radio was in development about 12 years before it launched as a service on XM. So what?

HD is just now positioning for audience attention. We expect to see receivers under $100 within 18 months and they won't have a monthly fee. In the meantime, stations will expand the HD 2 offerings and consumer awareness and demand will increase.

I am looking at the in-flight "catalog" from American Airlines. On Page 3 is a full page ad for an HD radio. It is not ugly, as the Receptor is not ugly. You are full of it.
 
David wrote: "HD is just now positioning for audience attention. We expect to see receivers under $100 within 18 months and they won't have a monthly fee. In the meantime, stations will expand the HD 2 offerings and consumer awareness and demand will increaserote: "

The HD channels offer the same old garbage - nothing new. And, how many years has the HD Radio industry been taling about radios < $100 - never happen ! :D
 
SayNoToIBOC said:
David wrote: "HD is just now positioning for audience attention. We expect to see receivers under $100 within 18 months and they won't have a monthly fee. In the meantime, stations will expand the HD 2 offerings and consumer awareness and demand will increaserote: "

The HD channels offer the same old garbage - nothing new. And, how many years has the HD Radio industry been taling about radios < $100 - never happen ! :D
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"Never happen"? Prove it.
 
The complexity of the analog/digital converters would be too expensive, to make a profit, at less that $100.
Plus remember, we need that damned dipole antenna !
 
SayNoToIBOC said:
The complexity of the analog/digital converters would be too expensive, to make a profit, at less that $100.
Plus remember, we need that damned dipole antenna !
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So, post some links to back it up!
 
"The complexity of the analog/digital converters would be too expensive, to make a profit, at less that $100.
Plus remember, we need that damned dipole antenna !"

What are you talking about? You pick this nonesense out of the blue and expect anyone who could read believe your babbling . Number one; When I bougfht my first CD player (a second generaton unit) I paid over 700$ for it and at that it ws one of the least expensive. There was one CD plant in the country and most CD's were pressed in Europe. Cd's were 20 dollars. There were no 25 dollar CD player, no CD recorders, and limited numbers of releases. Today, a whole different world. Don't give me the no one is interested B.S. Please tel me why this technology is different than every other technology on Earth?

The Dipole. Great argument. We aren't talking 80 meters here where you hang 120 feet of wire. We're talking about 4 and a half foot of wire. What is the big deal? Your arguments are silly, honestly desperate.
 
The Receptor HD doesn't pick up with the long-wire antenna, so it needs a folded dipole antenna - gosh, I wonder, if this radio is portable, like the hundres-of-millions analog AM/FM radios ! Jesus, I can pick up WHO and WWL at 1000 miles, with my analog PLL radio, with just its internal ferrite-bar antenna ! Give me a break - HD/IBOC is a joke !
 
SayNoToIBOC said:
The Receptor HD doesn't pick up with the long-wire antenna, so it needs a folded dipole antenna - gosh, I wonder, if this radio is portable, like the hundres-of-millions analog AM/FM radios ! Jesus, I can pick up WHO and WWL at 1000 miles, with my analog PLL radio, with just its internal ferrite-bar antenna ! Give me a break - HD/IBOC is a joke !
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The receptor is not sold as a portable radio - it's sold as a tabletop radio.

Sorry to once again school you.
 
Radios with external antennas, loops and dipoles that you had to fiddle with, went out of style in the 1930's and the public was glad to get rid of them. I doubt if most of the public will have a change of heart, and they will come back in style.
 
SUPERCASTER said:
Radios with external antennas, loops and dipoles that you had to fiddle with, went out of style in the 1930's and the public was glad to get rid of them. I doubt if most of the public will have a change of heart, and they will come back in style.
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Well then it's a good thing that the IBOC chipsets are improving! Pretty soon it will work just like any other radio!

It's not very smart to convict a technology using it's first implementation.
 
"Radios with external antennas, loops and dipoles that you had to fiddle with, went out of style in the 1930's and the public was glad to get rid of them. I doubt if most of the public will have a change of heart, and they will come back in style."

You don't know anything about radio do you? What about my super radio with its telescoping whip? A poinbt was brought out earlier that you are posting rediculous statements just to get a response and that we shouldn't respond to you. Maybe that was correct. You appear to be totally ignorant about radio technology.
 
autopaint-1 said:
"The complexity of the analog/digital converters would be too expensive, to make a profit, at less that $100.
Plus remember, we need that damned dipole antenna !"

What are you talking about? You pick this nonesense out of the blue and expect anyone who could read believe your babbling . Number one; When I bougfht my first CD player (a second generaton unit) I paid over 700$ for it and at that it ws one of the least expensive. There was one CD plant in the country and most CD's were pressed in Europe. Cd's were 20 dollars. There were no 25 dollar CD player, no CD recorders, and limited numbers of releases. Today, a whole different world. Don't give me the no one is interested B.S. Please tel me why this technology is different than every other technology on Earth?

The Dipole. Great argument. We aren't talking 80 meters here where you hang 120 feet of wire. We're talking about 4 and a half foot of wire. What is the big deal? Your arguments are silly, honestly desperate.
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I'm curious--what kind of dipole antenna (simple dipole or folded dipole) does the BA HD Receptor use, and what kind of FM antenna jack does it have? If it has a 75 ohm "F"-Type jack, an ordinary FM folded dipole with a 300 ohm/75 ohm balun should work fine with it. Also, what kind of AM antenna and ground terminals (if any) does the BA have, and what impedance are they designed for?

-- Jason
 
I have both the wire and the dipole (B.A. sent out the dipole to anyone who owns a HD Receptor for free). The Dipole uses a standard F connector and the dipole isn't 7 foot long. Were do you get your facts? I mean at least try not to be dishonest.
 
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