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Re: % AM radio users & other vehicle safety systems (seat belts, air bags, safety glass) - anyone know the % of vehicles where the safety systems are used (obviously an accident) compared to all the vehicles in use on a given day?

Maybe 5% or 14% or whatever AM radio use in a given day is is greater than the other vehicle safety systems used in the same given day.


Kirk Bayne
AM radio is not a “safety system”.
 
Yes, not to buy a Ford. The last one I had was in about 1977, and it had the habit of turning itself off right on the Expreso Las Américas in San Juan. After multiple lengthy stays in the dealer, Ford simply refunded my money and I have not had one since then.
Sounds like fuel starvation. A common problem in North American Fords in the 70s.

My ‘75 was bad enough that it ended a 43-year streak of Ford products in my family, sending me to Toyota and my mom to Honda.
 
Sounds like fuel starvation. A common problem in North American Fords in the 70s.
It's strange, as it was "serviced" five or six times and never fixed until they simply took it back and gave me the whole original price.
My ‘75 was bad enough that it ended a 43-year streak of Ford products in my family, sending me to Toyota and my mom to Honda.
Same era, same marque. Lessons learned.
 
Good lord, I can’t blame you one bit.
The worst thing is that the highway in question is one of the busiest in the U.S., with bumper to bumper traffic all day long. Fortunately, the car was never hit by another vehicle, and police had it towed; we got Ford to pay the cost of that.
 
The worst thing is that the highway in question is one of the busiest in the U.S., with bumper to bumper traffic all day long. Fortunately, the car was never hit by another vehicle, and police had it towed; we got Ford to pay the cost of that.
I had a '77 Oldsmobile Cutlass that did that several times on the I-405 freeway, which is 6 lanes of very fast-moving traffic. I bought it used, with about 20,000 miles. At the time, I thought it was a bargain. I guess that it why it was a bargain. It always scared me when it did that, and the dealer charged to repair it several times, because it was out of warranty. The dealer thought the problem was the fuel pump. They replaced the fuel pump several times ( at my cost), but it continued to switch itself off on busy freeways. I did not want to buy any more used cars after that, especially ones that were out of warranty. I changed to buying or leasing new low-cost Toyotas or Nissans with better quality control. JMO -- D.
 
Sounds like fuel starvation. A common problem in North American Fords in the 70s.

My ‘75 was bad enough that it ended a 43-year streak of Ford products in my family, sending me to Toyota and my mom to Honda.
I've had Toyotas forever (although I currently drive a "Peugeot" which is a rebadged Toyota with a Toyota engine). I started off with Ford Ka's, but had so many problems with them. I ran a Nissan briefly, but it did the thing being discussed here (stopped dead on a highway, nearly caused a crash) and I switched back to Toyota.
 
All the in-vehicle entertainment systems use SDR's capable of decoding/demodulating pretty much any received signal within the bandwidth of a shark fin, or window antenna. Over the past fifteen years, the SDR is part of the BCU (Body Control Unit).
I suspect if you wanted to have your radio updated in a Ford vehicle, you would need to take it to the dealer.
That's pretty cool!
 
Sounds like fuel starvation. A common problem in North American Fords in the 70s.

My ‘75 was bad enough that it ended a 43-year streak of Ford products in my family, sending me to Toyota and my mom to Honda.
Fuel injection must have fixed that. My last Ford was an '85 T-bird Turbo Coupe. Fantastic car and it got 28 MPG on the highway!
 
Fuel injection must have fixed that. My last Ford was an '85 T-bird Turbo Coupe. Fantastic car and it got 28 MPG on the highway!
I loved the Turbo Coupe. Hertz had them in their California and Nevada rental fleets for three or four years and I never passed up the opportunity when traveling.
 
My condolences. I've had 2 toyota's (one was a company truck at my last job) and they were the 2 biggest pieces of crap to ever darken my driveway. There won't be a 3rd.
I got five years and 70,000 trouble-free miles from my Toyota. Only traded it because I wanted a bit more headroom (I'm 6 feet tall) and the SR5 liftback was pretty low. Got a Honda Civic which gave me 14 years and 144,000 trouble-free miles.
 
I got five years and 70,000 trouble-free miles from my Toyota. Only traded it because I wanted a bit more headroom (I'm 6 feet tall) and the SR5 liftback was pretty low. Got a Honda Civic which gave me 14 years and 144,000 trouble-free miles.
I'll only ever buy Japanese now, at least while we're still driving ICEs. The Toyotas in particular just go on and on and on, mine is at 75,000 miles which is remarkable for a little city car, and still just needs routine maintenance (brakes, tires, oil changes) rather than major surgery. The Koreans come a close second - my dad drives a Kia which is similarly reliable.

The cars you most often see stranded by the side of the road, at least here, are the big Germans, the BMWs and Audis of the world. Whether it's because people buy them and then can't afford to maintain them due to expensive parts, or whether they are just less reliable, I don't know. I love that the parts for my not-a-Toyota Toyota are cheap and very easily available, because there are just so many of that type of car on the roads.
 
'Should, should, should.' None of that is factual. You're talking about a theory. You want to repeal laws? Fine. Go ahead. But right now, the laws exist, and no one is talking about repealing anything. Radio stations still have to follow the laws.


This has nothing to do with a business model. Once again, if the regulations are antiquated, repeal them. But if the government is still enforcing them, then the government that oversees the spectrum and the radio industry has to carry out its part of the deal.

Will this proposal become law? Probably not. There are lots of people in congress that dislike the media, and see this as you do. It's a proposal. That's all it is. There's a long process before it becomes a law.
It’s about the cars. 🙄🙄🙄 Not sure why you keep trying to change the subject to what the radio stations need to do, or tuner specs or what have you. The point is the government should keep out of telling people who build cars what to do about a radio. Those are entirely separate.

The same congress that is an abject failure at doing a darned thing to keep kids safe at schools suddenly can come together to keep AM radio safe from being outdated and irrelevant. It would almost be funny if it wasn’t so sadly pathetic.
 
The cars you most often see stranded by the side of the road, at least here, are the big Germans, the BMWs and Audis of the world. Whether it's because people buy them and then can't afford to maintain them due to expensive parts, or whether they are just less reliable,
While a car is a personal decision that is often independent of facts and empirical evidence, I do look at the car magazine reviews and comparisons as well as Consumer Reports annual car ratings if I we are considering a new car.

Where I live, there are a lot of "it may be my last car, so it better be a good one" buyers. And "good" often means "it makes me feel good" and not "it is reliable".

So, despite horrible reviews, I see lots of the Land Rover family of vehicles here. I mean, when you can have a refrigerated compartment in the arm rest for you water bottle, who would not want one?

I sold my 7-year-old diesel BMW SUV a few months ago, and looked at everything in the same class. The newer Genesis, along with the Lexus, Acura and Infinity looked like "old fart" cars. The X5 BMW was too big, and the smaller ones looked too much like old "station wagons". The Mercedes models were too big or too "square shaped". No Land Rover or Land Cruiser due to the bad ratings. So, despite knowing the increased owner cost, I drove a Porsche Macan and it was everlasting love. Beautiful style, wonderful feel (even the "cheap" 4-cylender model), very nice control and nav system and they had one with my options on the lot. It went home with me.

And consumer reports showed that model very highly rated to boot! Same for Car & Driver and the others.

50% research, 50% gut feel and knowledge that I would be proud of the car.
 
The point is the government should keep out of telling people who build cars what to do about a radio. Those are entirely separate.

Once again, you're confusing your own personal ideology with the actual, factual role that congress and regulatory agencies have with the automobile industry. There are many things car companies do because it's the law. This would be another one of those things. Radio and automobiles are not separate, except in your head.
 
Once again, you're confusing your own personal ideology with the actual, factual role that congress and regulatory agencies have with the automobile industry. There are many things car companies do because it's the law. This would be another one of those things. Radio and automobiles are not separate, except in your head.
Gotta disagree with you here, BigA. Audio is an entertainment option in a vehicle, period. Due to demand, they became standard, first as AM radios, then as AM/FM, and so on through the years. The government never mandated that cars have them---even when they were the only logical source of emergency information.
 
I'll only ever buy Japanese now, at least while we're still driving ICEs. The Toyotas in particular just go on and on and on, mine is at 75,000 miles which is remarkable for a little city car, and still just needs routine maintenance (brakes, tires, oil changes) rather than major surgery. The Koreans come a close second - my dad drives a Kia which is similarly reliable.

The cars you most often see stranded by the side of the road, at least here, are the big Germans, the BMWs and Audis of the world. Whether it's because people buy them and then can't afford to maintain them due to expensive parts, or whether they are just less reliable, I don't know. I love that the parts for my not-a-Toyota Toyota are cheap and very easily available, because there are just so many of that type of car on the roads.
I have a neighbor a few doors down with two classic Porsches. He says they are reliable---but the reliability requires maintenance and maintenance is expensive.

To him, that's worthwhile.

To me, even though I'm a car guy, it's not. Reliability to me means the car will never leave me stranded and maintenance is regular, predictable and well within my budget. Porsches for him, Hondas for me.
 
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