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(car radios) FM Required (1973) ?

fybush said:
What do you see listed for Portland in 1947-8? It didn't get TV until 1952.
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The Oregonian's KGWG. It shows in every Yearbook starting in 1948. It shows in 1949, too. But then disappears and later shows as what we'd obviously consider to be a CP. The question is whether it actually ran in the three post-war years and then closed, or whether it appeared as licensed but was actually never built.

The Oregonian, of course, had KGW and man years of broadcast experience.
 
This is new to me. KPTV Channel 27 began in 1952. KOIN 6 in '53, KLOR 12 in '55, later merging with 27 and sending 27 dark and KGW 8 in '56. Portland was held back because of a freeze to study UHF. This is the first I've heard about anything before 1952.
 
semoochie said:
This is new to me. KPTV Channel 27 began in 1952. KOIN 6 in '53, KLOR 12 in '55, later merging with 27 and sending 27 dark and KGW 8 in '56. Portland was held back because of a freeze to study UHF. This is the first I've heard about anything before 1952.
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I did a little more reading last night. It appears the Oregonian secured the CP for KGWG channel. 6 in 1947 (hence the BY listings in 47 and 48), never built it (hence the lack of a start date), decided to focus only on the newspaper and radio and returned the CP.

But then the Korean War and the freeze on new TV permits hit, so Portland was left without TV until KPTV in 52.
 
I remember that my parents had a Uhf converter on our TV set to pick up NBC O&O WBUF 17 in Buffalo which was an experiment by NBC to see if UHF would be viable. By 1958 it was off the air when VHF 7 came on. Buffalo had VHF on 2 and 4. Channel 17 later became PBS WNED.
 
michael hagerty said:
Another possibility, not out of the question, is that Tuna was seeing Fresno stations, which are all UHF. Modesto is 90 miles from Fresno, and Tuna says the town he was in was south of Modesto—-which would make Fresno closer than Sac or SF.

If the town Tuna stayed in was Turlock, the distance to Fresno is only 57 miles.
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From what I understand Fresno became an all UHF market in 1961, so this was probably the case. I should have finished the thread first would delete if I could. :ROFLMAO:
 
michael hagerty said:
However, the 1949 book shows two in Portland—-channels 3 and 6. And none in Seattle.
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Page 66 of the 1949 Broadcasting Yearbook shows KRSC-TV/5 Seattle, which went on the air on 11/25/1948. It is now KING-TV.

The listings on Page 64 for Portland's KTVU/3 and KGWG/6 show no startup date. The CP for KGWG was returned unbuilt. No word on what happened to KTVU.

There are several stations listed in the 1949 Yearbook with CPs and call letters assigned that never went on the air, including KARO, the only CP ever issued that I'm aware of for Channel 1. It's listed as "Channel 1 or 6," which makes sense since Channel 1 was withdrawn from TV use by the end of 1948.

EDIT: Broadcasting Magazine of 12/5/1949 shows that the FCC denied KTVU an extension of its CP to build the station. It was listed as "forfeited," which I have to ass-u-me is the same as revoked.
 
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