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Cartridge Labels

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SFM-Ptgal

Well... another odd question:
What was the brand of the labels most used to tag the broadcast carts? I didn't find anything yet that fit perfectly on the cart (too high, too narrow, etc etc) But I see loads of images of labeled carts on the internet with the perfect label. What's (was/were) the brand(s)?

Pedro
 
I can't speak for everyone, but I worked in 8 different stations over the years. At each one, the "perfect" cart label was those that were the cheapest. At every place we used file folder labels.

I would think you could check the Avery or Dennison website and find just about any size.

And lastly, I can't help but wonder - why are you labeling carts in 2009?
 
rickharrison said:
I can't speak for everyone, but I worked in 8 different stations over the years. At each one, the "perfect" cart label was those that were the cheapest. At every place we used file folder labels.

I would think you could check the Avery or Dennison website and find just about any size.

And lastly, I can't help but wonder - why are you labeling carts in 2009?
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Because I'm a proud owner of a very nice vintage broadcast gear...

1 Harris Stereo 80 broadcast console,
2 Harris Criterion triple cart decker (one faulty),
1 Harris Criterion cart recorder,
6 ITC Deltas,
1 ITC Delta Triple decker with record module,
1 Harris CB1201 turntable,
1 Ampex ATR700,
1 Audiolab tape eraser,
and lots of carts

I'm in Portugal ;D
 
SFM-Ptgal said:
rickharrison said:
I can't speak for everyone, but I worked in 8 different stations over the years. At each one, the "perfect" cart label was those that were the cheapest. At every place we used file folder labels.

I would think you could check the Avery or Dennison website and find just about any size.

And lastly, I can't help but wonder - why are you labeling carts in 2009?
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Because I'm a proud owner of a very nice vintage broadcast gear...

1 Harris Stereo 80 broadcast console,
2 Harris Criterion triple cart decker (one faulty),
1 Harris Criterion cart recorder,
6 ITC Deltas,
1 ITC Delta Triple decker with record module,
1 Harris CB1201 turntable,
1 Ampex ATR700,
1 Audiolab tape eraser,
and lots of carts

I'm in Portugal ;D
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And based on that, this guy is probably running a live, non-automated, non-satellite delivered radio station, which puts him way ahead of most of us in my book.
 
I'll always remember the words of one very frustrated chief engineer: "whomever thought it was a great #ucking idea to run a #ucking radio station off a #ucking hard drive oughta have his head #ucking examined."
 
Ditto on the file folder labels. At one of the stations I worked for we bought 'em by 10 boxfuls at a time. Everything was color coded. Nice thing, you could get 'em anywhere, an office supply store, Walmart, the grocery, practically anywhere.

If I had a nickle for ever file folder I typed, peeled off and stuck on a cart, I'd be a very rich man! :p
 
Until you restore one of those great big old Olivetti typewriters, with the huge-sized type fonts (for "scriptwriting"), you are not allowed to have labels for your carts ;D .

Oh, don't forget rubber gloves, for changing out the ink ribbons.

clack, clack, clack, clack, clack, clack......"darn, where's the delete key?".....riiiiiippppppppp!
 
BobOnTheJob said:
SFM-Ptgal said:
rickharrison said:
I can't speak for everyone, but I worked in 8 different stations over the years. At each one, the "perfect" cart label was those that were the cheapest. At every place we used file folder labels.

I would think you could check the Avery or Dennison website and find just about any size.

And lastly, I can't help but wonder - why are you labeling carts in 2009?
Click to expand...

Because I'm a proud owner of a very nice vintage broadcast gear...

1 Harris Stereo 80 broadcast console,
2 Harris Criterion triple cart decker (one faulty),
1 Harris Criterion cart recorder,
6 ITC Deltas,
1 ITC Delta Triple decker with record module,
1 Harris CB1201 turntable,
1 Ampex ATR700,
1 Audiolab tape eraser,
and lots of carts

I'm in Portugal ;D
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And based on that, this guy is probably running a live, non-automated, non-satellite delivered radio station, which puts him way ahead of most of us in my book.
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Wrong... I Wish I could...
Just two side notes, everyone who worked with that equipment recalls the warmth felt on their voices by using an analog mixer... And all that equipment cost me around 200$us
 
Back when most broadcasters used tape cartridge players, BSW was one of the few that actually sold rolls of labels for the cartridges. I still have a few, which I use to label file folders.

File folder labels will be the closest you will come to the real thing.
 
the best i have used was a 3m tape product similiar to masking tape about 1/2 inch wide

the rolls came is several colors and did not stick too strong to the cart so when you ripped them off the carts were not stickey.

you just grabbed a length of tape
put it on the typewriter
typed out your label
pealed it off the typewriter
and put it on the cart

our system was

white - spots
red - IDs
blue - promos
green - psa

we prepped new carts just with a piece of clear tape over the the end to cover up the ink that marked the length and the 3m tape always pulled away clean so you could read the lengths.
 
I also collect cart machines lol. I have about 50 or so, with the oldest being a Gates and 3 Tapecasters. I have built a model broadcast studio with a Gates Dualux (sp?) console and the old gearshift Gates turntable and a rack with a couple reels. I should post a pic. It is going to have a big window viewable from the lobby of my radio station with a lot of old mics and memorabilia from the heritage station that houses it.

You brought back a lot of memories talking about cart labels. That coding system with the colors was almost exactly the same as a little station I worked at back in the day, I remember green was p.s.a.s. I also remember one station used masking tape and some very artistic p.d. made nice colorfull lables with sharpies, so you could tell the legal id and varies jingles just by glancing at them.
 
PLEASE...post a picture. That, I gotta see! :eek:

A Gate Dualux, cart machines, turntables...sounds like my version of boat anchor heaven!
 
The Gates turntable mentioned by SFM-Ptgal and jimmyfish--
is this the one with the red rocker switch for start/stop and
the pop-up 45 adapter? To me, they didn't start up as fast
as a QRK so you had to back-cue an LP a quarter turn and
a 45 a half-turn to avoid wowing.


SFM-Ptgal said:
I've found the perfect ones!
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/wl-ol200.htm
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An unintended LOL made by the label order form on the linked
page is in step 3 where it instructs you to "add items to cart."
We'll definitely do that. ;D
 
oldiesfan6479 said:
The Gates turntable mentioned by SFM-Ptgal and jimmyfish--
is this the one with the red rocker switch for start/stop and
the pop-up 45 adapter? To me, they didn't start up as fast
as a QRK so you had to back-cue an LP a quarter turn and
a 45 a half-turn to avoid wowing.


SFM-Ptgal said:
I've found the perfect ones!
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/wl-ol200.htm
Click to expand...

An unintended LOL made by the label order form on the linked
page is in step 3 where it instructs you to "add items to cart."
We'll definitely do that. ;D
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Nope... here´s my baby:
http://s215.photobucket.com/albums/cc118/SFM-PTGAL/Audio Gear/?action=view&current=HarrisCB1201.jpg
 
Can't figure out how to get the pic of my old studio on here. Can anybody help me out? I could also email it if anybody is interested. I have the pic in my email.
 
Amos, thanks for the tip. You are right, pretty simple, if this is the correct link anyway. So if it works, here is a pic of my vintage museum/studio.

http://i44.tinypic.com/mtv6ad.jpg

Yes it is the Gates turntable with the red rocker switch.

More pics to come.
 
Thanks for posting!

You have a good start on a retro studio. I like the reel decks, are they the old Ampex workhorses?
 
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