CASH 1700 NEW WEB SITE WITH PODCASTS, AND PHOTOS!

[ABQTom]

The "KASH 1700" (The Talk of San Diego XEKTT) hosts heard on the skywave over the western US have now emerged from obscurity on the *new* station website, complete with photos and podcasts of talkers Stacy Taylor and Mark Larson! ;D

http://www.sandiego1700.com/pages/main

Podcasts...

http://www.sandiego1700.com/pages/Podcasts

 

[SDRadio]

The "KASH 1700" (The Talk of San Diego XEKTT)

Thomas: it never was KASH 1700 and the call letters are XEPE. Never let the facts get in the way of a posting.

 

[ABQTom]

The "KASH 1700" (The Talk of San Diego XEKTT)

Thomas: it never was KASH 1700 and the call letters are XEPE. Never let the facts get in the way of a posting.

1. It's Tom.

2. Cash 1700 was its previous nickname, under the same owner. They are now San Diego 1700, the talk of San Diego.

3. The station is XEKTT 1700 licensed to Tecate, Mexico

4. I believe that I have had nothing but positive things to say about this station's new format or hosts on the San Diego format. I have not criticized other posters on the San Diego board and I would ask the same from all of you.

5. Likewise, I have never outed anyone on Radio-Info. Some of us choose to use fake names or only our first name.

Thanks.

 

[davideduardo]

2. Cash 1700 was its previous nickname, under the same owner. They are now San Diego 1700, the talk of San Diego.

You said it was Kash with a k, not a c. And station names in Mexico are part of the authorization.... they are not nicknames, they are the name the station does business as. In many countries of Latin America, station owners don't even know the call letters.... as the name is all they use on the air..

3. The station is XEKTT 1700 licensed to Tecate, Mexico

http://dgsrt.sct.gob.mx/fileadmin/ligas/infra_am_280206_.pdf shows the Mexican Government has licensed it to Jaramillo, BCN and the calls are XEPE.

It is not XEKKT and is not in Tecate.

 

[SDRadio]

5. Likewise, I have never outed anyone on Radio-Info. Some of us choose to use fake names or only our first name.

As one who has always posted with my real name, Thomas, sometimes fake names give an air of lackadaisical writing. Your results may vary, and objects will appear bigger in the rear view mirror.

However that on the side, you addressed the station as Kash, when it was previously Cash; and have the Mexico call letters wrong. Like I wrote, never let the facts get in the way of a good posting; i.e. "Mission Accomplished".

 

[ABQTom]

2. Cash 1700 was its previous nickname, under the same owner. They are now San Diego 1700, the talk of San Diego.

You said it was Kash with a k, not a c. And station names in Mexico are part of the authorization.... they are not nicknames, they are the name the station does business as. In many countries of Latin America, station owners don't even know the call letters.... as the name is all they use on the air..

3. The station is XEKTT 1700 licensed to Tecate, Mexico

http://dgsrt.sct.gob.mx/fileadmin/ligas/infra_am_280206_.pdf shows the Mexican Government has licensed it to Jaramillo, BCN and the calls are XEPE.

It is not XEKKT and is not in Tecate.

I used the FCC data base and I get XEKTT 1700 in Tecata, NM.
Thanks for the link.

As for "Cash 1700," perhaps U are not familiar with the history of the station. When it had primarily a business format that is what they called it.

 

[ABQTom]

5. Likewise, I have never outed anyone on Radio-Info. Some of us choose to use fake names or only our first name.

As one who has always posted with my real name, Thomas, sometimes fake names give an air of lackadaisical writing. Your results may vary, and objects will appear bigger in the rear view mirror.

However that on the side, you addressed the station as Kash, when it was previously Cash; and have the Mexico call letters wrong. Like I wrote, never let the facts get in the way of a good posting; i.e. "Mission Accomplished".

Chris, it's Tom, and unlike you, I prefer to take the high road and not go after fellow posters and will always continue to do so. However, I must say that you and David are nitpicking over insignificant differences that have no bearing on the *ORIGINAL* subject matter of my posts ... the new format, hosts, and website of 1700. XEKTT:
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?stat...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9

Back to the original subject matter, it will be nice to hear Stacy Taylor sub for Lionel on Air America....the 1700 signal will spread that over half a dozen or so Western states 1A-4A PT.

Meanwhile, I will let you and the other folks debate these topics.

-Tom

 

[Garrett]

5. Likewise, I have never outed anyone on Radio-Info. Some of us choose to use fake names or only our first name.

As one who has always posted with my real name, Thomas, sometimes fake names give an air of lackadaisical writing. Your results may vary, and objects will appear bigger in the rear view mirror.

However that on the side, you addressed the station as Kash, when it was previously Cash; and have the Mexico call letters wrong. Like I wrote, never let the facts get in the way of a good posting; i.e. "Mission Accomplished".

Chris, it's Tom, and unlike you, I prefer to take the high road and not go after fellow posters and will always continue to do so. However, I must say that you and David are nitpicking over insignificant differences that have no bearing on the *ORIGINAL* subject matter of my posts ... the new format, hosts, and website of 1700. XEKTT:
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?stat...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9

Back to the original subject matter, it will be nice to hear Stacy Taylor sub for Lionel on Air America....the 1700 signal will spread that over half a dozen or so Western states 1A-4A PT.

Meanwhile, I will let you and the other folks debate these topics.

-Tom

Where did you get information that 1700 covers "half a dozen states (a dozen being 6) between 1am and 4am?
Accodring to Radio-Locator.com, 1700's night time pattern covers exactly 1 state, (not counting Baja-California Mexico).
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=xepe&sr=Y&s=C&x=10&y=8E

As the map shows, the night time pattern barely makes it past Ramona, skews North by NW, and out to the Pacific Ocean.
Also, its 1AM in the morning, and I am in Texas, and I can not get 1700 at all.

 

[SDRadio]

Thomas (or Tom) likes to spin the signal coverage. There are reports of Stacy being heard in Wyoming and the like. Frankly, while it's good to have a reach like that, the signal where the intended coverage is not great in parts of San Diego county day or night.

As far as the call letters go, Thomas (or Tom) likes to spin the truth about the call letters from the FCC web site. Best to go to the source at the Mexican government site, hence XEPE. I don't know Garrett, Thomas (or Tom) may think that is nit-picking, but if it was something about a right-wing elected official, I suspect the on-air host he is pushing would be all over it.

As Joe Friday said, "Just the facts!"

 

[Snarkin USA]

Where did you get information that 1700 covers "half a dozen states (a dozen being 6) between 1am and 4am?

BREAKING NEWS FROM GARRETT...One Dozen = 6

 

[davideduardo]

Chris, it's Tom, and unlike you, I prefer to take the high road and not go after fellow posters and will always continue to do so. However, I must say that you and David are nitpicking over insignificant differences that have no bearing on the *ORIGINAL* subject matter of my posts ... the new format, hosts, and website of 1700. XEKTT:
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?

The station is not licensed by the FCC. Therefore, the proper source for data on it is the licencing board in the country where it is licensed, Mexico. XEPE Jaramillo is the station, not XEKTT Tecate.

Back to the original subject matter, it will be nice to hear Stacy Taylor sub for Lionel on Air America....the 1700 signal will spread that over half a dozen or so Western states 1A-4A PT.

The groundwave night coverage barely reaches the lower half of San Diego county consistently. Skywasve, at the licenced power, is unreliable and I would bet yu that there is not a single mention of 1700 in any Arbitron diary outside the groundwave coverage area. In addition, night AM listening is so low that night coverage is irrelevant, anyway.

 

[davideduardo]

I used the FCC data base and I get XEKTT 1700 in Tecata, NM.

Now it moved to New Mexico? Bizarre. (A "tecata" is a heroin addict, btw.)

The FCC does not license stations in Mexico. Its database is notoriously inaccurate on Mexican notifications, too.

 

[SDRadio]

BREAKING NEWS FROM GARRETT...One Dozen = 6

 

[ABQTom]

"Where did you get information that 1700 covers "half a dozen states (a dozen being 6) between 1am and 4am?
Accodring to Radio-Locator.com, 1700's night time pattern covers exactly 1 state, (not counting Baja-California Mexico).
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=xepe&sr=Y&s=C&x=10&y=8E"

"As the map shows, the night time pattern barely makes it past Ramona, skews North by NW, and out to the Pacific Ocean.
Also, its 1AM in the morning, and I am in Texas, and I can not get 1700 at all."

Garrett,

As a DX-er of roughly 20 years I've personally heard San Diego 1700 AM in Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Arizona, and as far east as Albuquerque, New Mexico. I don't know about Texas, it would depend where you are.

The red lines on the radio-locator daytime *AND* nightime coverage maps are for the groundwave coverage at 5mV/m (five millivolts per meter).

However, skywave AM propagation at 1,000's of miles can be much less than 5mV/m.

There is a book that shows nightime skywave propagation from the Universal Radio web site.

Generally, you can look at the FCC nightime field strength plots and along with some knowledge of the theoretical skywave propagation at different frequencies, you can predict the station's skywave...

XEKTT 1700 nightime plot...

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/AM_DA_patterns/1000313-86586.pdf

XEKTT info...

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?stat...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9

On theoretical considerations alone, with no interference, at 1700kHz the nightime pattern would likely make it to Utah, Idaho, and maybe Coloradio/Wyoming/Montana.

It would be nice to hear others like you report the nightime signal, rather than posts going after others' typos like NM vs. Mexico. My goodness.

 

[ABQTom]

"Where did you get information that 1700 covers "half a dozen states (a dozen being 6) between 1am and 4am?
Accodring to Radio-Locator.com, 1700's night time pattern covers exactly 1 state, (not counting Baja-California Mexico).
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=xepe&sr=Y&s=C&x=10&y=8E"

"As the map shows, the night time pattern barely makes it past Ramona, skews North by NW, and out to the Pacific Ocean.
Also, its 1AM in the morning, and I am in Texas, and I can not get 1700 at all."

Garrett,

As a DX-er of roughly 20 years I've personally heard San Diego 1700 AM in Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Arizona, and as far east as Albuquerque, New Mexico. I don't know about Texas, it would depend where you are.

The red lines on the radio-locator daytime *AND* nightime coverage maps are for the groundwave coverage at 5mV/m (five millivolts per meter).

However, skywave AM propagation at 1,000's of miles can be much less than 5mV/m.

There is a book that shows nightime skywave propagation from the Universal Radio web site.

Generally, you can look at the FCC nightime field strength plots and along with some knowledge of the theoretical skywave propagation at different frequencies, you can predict the station's skywave...

1700 is so high on the dial that the theoretical skywave propagation is tremendous. Shortwave "starts" at 1701kHz! I picked up a Brownsville, TX 1700 in Seattle in the background of San Diego 1700.

XEKTT 1700 nightime plot...

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/AM_DA_patterns/1000313-86586.pdf

XEKTT info...

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?stat...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9

On theoretical considerations alone, with no interference, at 1700kHz the nightime pattern would likely make it to Utah and Idaho, and maybe Colorado/Wyoming/Montana.

It would be nice to hear others like you report the nightime signal, rather than going after others' typos like NM vs. Mexico, purely for political reasons. My goodness.

 

[SDRadio]

Thomas! It's XEPE, don't be an arrogant SOB.

 

[Garrett]

Where did you get information that 1700 covers "half a dozen states (a dozen being 6) between 1am and 4am?

BREAKING NEWS FROM GARRETT...One Dozen = 6

You know I meant to write "half dozen," there is no need to be a obnoxious about it.

 

[davideduardo]

As a DX-er of roughly 20 years I've personally heard San Diego 1700 AM in Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Arizona, and as far east as Albuquerque, New Mexico. I don't know about Texas, it would depend where you are.

There are other 1700's in the US; it would be rare for XEPE to be heard in Texas with any regularity and at the low night power it runs. Further, there is essentially no night listening to any AMs outside their market areas at night, and what listening there is is to 50 kw clears, not X-banders and regional or local channels.

The red lines on the radio-locator daytime *AND* nightime coverage maps are for the groundwave coverage at 5mV/m (five millivolts per meter).

The radio-locator maps are labeled as "for entertainment purposes only" and the usable signal area, for both AM and FM, is somewhere about 20% to 25% inside the red line. The maps have other defects, such as terrain and conductivity issues, but suffice to say that they are only a vague approximation of real coverage. I have compared real measured contours for directional AMs with radio-locator, and can support this statement by means of real field strength.

However, skywave AM propagation at 1,000's of miles can be much less than 5mV/m.

Yeah, if you are a DXer. For comfortable listening, very few stations are usable by the average listener via skywave... the only stations that get any significant skywave are almost entirely the old 1 A and 1 B clears, less than 100 stations in the whole US.

There is a book that shows nightime skywave propagation from the Universal Radio web site.

You probably refer to the NRC pattern book; it does not show coverage, but only the relative field strength at one mile.

Generally, you can look at the FCC nightime field strength plots and along with some knowledge of the theoretical skywave propagation at different frequencies, you can predict the station's skywave...

Again, the only stations that provide anything approaching regular, listenable skywave outside the groundwave coverage area are the few A and B clears. No other channel is clean enough for useful skywave to be generated.

1700 is so high on the dial that the theoretical skywave propagation is tremendous. Shortwave "starts" at 1701kHz!

Shortwave starts at the tropical band above 3.3 mHz.

I picked up a Brownsville, TX 1700 in Seattle in the background of San Diego 1700.

You defeat your own argument here. If you can hear one station, but it is interferred with by another, then it is DXable but not listenable.

XEKTT info...

There is no XEKTT. The calls were changed some time ago, but the FCC, which messes up Mexican stations quite routinely, has not changed its database.

Again, the source for data on Mexican stations is in Mexico, not in Washington. While you may think that the US intervenes in foreign nations, following a rousing rendition of Kumbaya, the fact is that the FCC does not license stations elsewhere.

On theoretical considerations alone, with no interference, at 1700kHz the nightime pattern would likely make it to Utah and Idaho, and maybe Colorado/Wyoming/Montana.

Occasionally, yes. Consistently, not. With a day-in, day-out good signal, never.

It would be nice to hear others like you report the nightime signal, rather than going after others' typos like NM vs. Mexico, purely for political reasons. My goodness.

How is "NM" a typo? There is no state of Mexico that is abbreviated that way (the official abbreviations in Mexico are three letters for almost all of the states) and "Mexico" is not abbreviated as "NM" anywhere...

There are multiple US stations on 1700, including two in Texas and one in Iowa, all capable of interfering with an X-bander's 1 kw equivalent at night within a very short distance of each.

 

[davideduardo]

Thomas! It's XEPE, don't be an arrogant SOB.

As a follow up, the Gonsett newsletter says, in part, this week....


The FCC database has dropped several newer Mexican AM & FM sites and left previous old site data. For example, several of Mr. Bonilla's sites show none of the current (Cerro
Bolla) sites for FM (or AM). The change occurred in the past few weeks. Other Mexican sites also appear to have reverted back to older data so when you go into fccinfo or radio-locator they will show coverage/data for the older Mexican sites.

Strange that the FCC data base is moving backward!

So, there is, in fact, a lot of error in the FCC databsase, and it is getting worse.

 

[ajhenderson]

The red lines on the radio-locator daytime *AND* nightime coverage maps are for the groundwave coverage at 5mV/m (five millivolts per meter).

No, the red lines are 2 mV/m, which is lower than the noise floor in much of Southern California.