CBS Anchor Shuffling

[KMan]

A week or two ago someone asked if there had been an official announcement on who would take Christopher Glenn's anchor position.

It seems to have shaken out like this:

Nick Young from morning bottom of the hr updates to World News Round-Up (Glenn's spot).
Jim Chenevey from weekday overnights to morning bottom of the hr updates.
Dave Barrett from Thurs-Sun evenings to overnights.
Bill Vitka from Sat-Sun overnights to splitting overnights with Dave Barrett.
Harley Karnes moves from Sat-Sun middays to Sat-Sun evenings.
Cami McCormick moves from national correspondant to Thur-Fri evenings, Sat-Sun middays.

 

[oldiesfan]

> Nick Young from morning bottom of the hr updates
> to World News Round-Up (Glenn's spot).

Plus the several midday (ET) hourlies Glenn did?


> Jim Chenevey from weekday overnights to morning
> bottom of the hr updates.

Makes more sense now, as I've heard him doing some
live "newsroom reporter" drops during the left coast
Round-Up. (Thanks KNX, for the stream!) I wondered
if they were keeping him around until 10am after his
having anchored 11pm-4am.


Assume airtimes not noted for the anchors in your
synopsis--and for others not mentioned (Settipani,
Whitney, et al)--stay the same?

 

[nwebster]

"CBS Radio Network"

Walter Cronkite was an anchor. These people are news readers.

Is Christopher Glenn going back to selling Frosted Flakes on Saturday morning cartoon shows?

CBS Newsradio (actually Westwood One)was Mutual News before they acquired the right to use the CBS "brand" on newscasts. They also operate under the NBC and CNN pseudonyms, and used Fox for a while, too. Like Mutual, their "air talent" is a bunch of golden-throat, hand-cupped-to-the-ear types (surprised they never hired Gary Owens). Their news coverage is consistently pro-war, pro-authority, pro-administration and pro-Bush (oops, I mean "MISTER Bush, which is what CBS Newsradio - and only CBS - always calls him). Mutual used to slant the news, too, but they got paid for it.

Westwood One must have an affiliate sales staff that really knows how to sell station managers, because no decent program director or news director would choose CBS Radio.

 

[JohnnyMorganWXJX]

Re: "CBS Radio Network"

> Walter Cronkite was an anchor. These people are news
> readers.
>
> Is Christopher Glenn going back to selling Frosted Flakes on
> Saturday morning cartoon shows?
>
> CBS Newsradio (actually Westwood One)was Mutual News before
> they acquired the right to use the CBS "brand" on newscasts.
> They also operate under the NBC and CNN pseudonyms, and
> used Fox for a while, too. Like Mutual, their "air talent"
> is a bunch of golden-throat, hand-cupped-to-the-ear types
> (surprised they never hired Gary Owens). Their news
> coverage is consistently pro-war, pro-authority,
> pro-administration and pro-Bush (oops, I mean "MISTER Bush,
> which is what CBS Newsradio - and only CBS - always calls
> him). Mutual used to slant the news, too, but they got paid
> for it.
>
> Westwood One must have an affiliate sales staff that really
> knows how to sell station managers, because no decent
> program director or news director would choose CBS Radio.

Thanks for that bit of commentary. Anything of substance to add?

 

[autopaint-1]

Re: "CBS Radio Network"

> Walter Cronkite was an anchor. These people are news
> readers.


You don't have any idea what you are talking about. On this subject I can say I have direct knowledge.

>
> Is Christopher Glenn going back to selling Frosted Flakes on
> Saturday morning cartoon shows?

I know Chris, having worked with him. He is a professional journalist and if you have issues with his work, I'd conclude that you don't really know how to distinguish what a real journalist is. I don't mean this as an insult to your skills but I have worked with him for years until he retired and know his work, which has always been beyond reproach.

>
> CBS Newsradio (actually Westwood One)was Mutual News before
> they acquired the right to use the CBS "brand" on newscasts.

WRONG!!!! Westwood distributes CBS radio newscasts. The Network newscasts are still produced by CBS News. The local CBS stations are owned by CBS radio and have nothing to do with Westwood.


>
> Westwood One must have an affiliate sales staff that really
> knows how to sell station managers, because no decent
> program director or news director would choose CBS Radio.


Oh and you are the ultimate news guru? What decides many stations network news choice comes down to issues of compensation. By the way, the CBS News people no longer read generic NBC/MBS newscasts. Those networks are now served by CNN.

 

[talkjim]

Re: "CBS Radio Network"

> Could not have said it better, Bob. All absolutely true. It's too bad we have to waste precious time knocking down crap like this.

> Walter Cronkite was an anchor. These people are news
> > readers.
>
>
> You don't have any idea what you are talking about. On this
> subject I can say I have direct knowledge.
>
> >
> > Is Christopher Glenn going back to selling Frosted Flakes
> on
> > Saturday morning cartoon shows?
>
> I know Chris, having worked with him. He is a professional
> journalist and if you have issues with his work, I'd
> conclude that you don't really know how to distinguish what
> a real journalist is. I don't mean this as an insult to your
> skills but I have worked with him for years until he retired
> and know his work, which has always been beyond reproach.
>
> >
> > CBS Newsradio (actually Westwood One)was Mutual News
> before
> > they acquired the right to use the CBS "brand" on
> newscasts.
>
> WRONG!!!! Westwood distributes CBS radio newscasts. The
> Network newscasts are still produced by CBS News. The local
> CBS stations are owned by CBS radio and have nothing to do
> with Westwood.
>
>
> >
> > Westwood One must have an affiliate sales staff that
> really
> > knows how to sell station managers, because no decent
> > program director or news director would choose CBS Radio.
>
>
> Oh and you are the ultimate news guru? What decides many
> stations network news choice comes down to issues of
> compensation. By the way, the CBS News people no longer
> read generic NBC/MBS newscasts. Those networks are now
> served by CNN.
>

 

[OldAkronite]

Re: "CBS Radio Network"

> > Could not have said it better, Bob. All absolutely true.
> It's too bad we have to waste precious time knocking down
> crap like this.

I'll confirm this, by the way. Westwood One is only the marketing/distribution arm for CBS News Radio, and the radio news network's employees are considered CBS News employees. That's straight from CBS itself.

Similarly, though Citadel is buying ABC's radio operations, ABC News Radio employees will continue (per ABC's own wording) to be considered ABC News employees, and will not work for Citadel. There's too much cross-pollinization between radio and TV on both networks for that to be otherwise.

Citadel will act much like Westwood One acts for CBS News Radio - it'll have the radio rights to distribute and market the ABC News Radio product in a 10 year pact, if I remember right. But Disney/ABC retains Internet rights, for example, to ABC News Radio product - they can post radio audio to ABCNews.com, for example. Again, these folks at the network radio news level will be ABC News employees, not Citadel employees.

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[NewsVet]

Re: CBS Radio Network (without the quotes)

> > Walter Cronkite was an anchor. These people are news
> > readers.
>
>
> You don't have any idea what you are talking about. On this
> subject I can say I have direct knowledge.

So do I, having been a news editor at CBS Radio News. "These people" write their own newscasts for the most part, although whoever does World News Roundup has writing help.

 

[Scribbler]

Re: "CBS Radio Network"

> > Walter Cronkite was an anchor. These people are news
> > readers.
>
>
> You don't have any idea what you are talking about. On this
> subject I can say I have direct knowledge.

For more evidence that Merriam doesn't know what he or she is talking about, see
<a href=http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=685080&Board=nyc>THIS POST</A> by David Eduardo, a radio pro who DOES know what he's talking about.

http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=685080&Board=nyc

 

[FloridaBear1776]

"Mister" for current and former Presidents

They also used "Mr. Clinton", "Mr. Reagan", "Mr. Carter", etc. That's a stylebook issue, hardly one of partisanship.

 

[autopaint-1]

Re: CBS Radio Network (without the quotes)

> > > Walter Cronkite was an anchor. These people are news
> > > readers.
> >
> >
> > You don't have any idea what you are talking about. On
> this
> > subject I can say I have direct knowledge.
>
> So do I, having been a news editor at CBS Radio News.
> "These people" write their own newscasts for the most part,
> although whoever does World News Roundup has writing help.
>
Only under the most dificult circumstances IE; a major story breaks while the program is underway, does anyone but the anchor write anything on the roundup now. Normaly the only writing the producer does is the promo which is played during the 7:35 Newsfeed.

 

[nwebster]

Re: "CBS Radio Network"

Bob, you are clearly an intelligent guy and your posts are well thought-out. I can also appreciate you are in a rather difficult position here (if you are posting under your real name) because your future employment may depend on not saying anything of which your employers or co-workers may disapprove. In effect, if you can't say anything nice, you can't say anything at all. This forces you to be come a company flack. Maybe someday you can come back with a handle and let us know what you really think.

You said (in another post) Dan Rather is a "gentleman." I don't know him personally. Walking off in a hissy fit when a sports event runs over is not exactly the mark of a gentleman. Roger Mudd, in print, called him "the J.R. Ewing of CBS News." But, again, your comment about him suggests you are somewhat constrained in what you can say here.

Apparently you and others who have responded are not familiar with the meaning of the word "anchor." The term was coined by Don Hewitt in 1952 to describe the role he envisioned for Walter Cronkite in the network's coverage of the political conventions. The term refers to the way convention coverage was organized around Cronkite. It does not refer to whether a newscaster writes all or some of his own copy. At the time (and for the next nine years)Cronkite anchored special events coverage and coverage of breaking stories. Douglas Edwards was the network's primary newscaster. The role of anchor and newscaster is still distinct in Britain and other countries. The term has become so over-used in this country that everyone who reads news on the air calls themselves an "anchor."

To call someone a "journalist" because they read news (and even write some of their own copy) is like calling a disc jockey a musician. Maybe some of them were at some point in their careers, but it is clearly not a job requirement. This is show business and people get hired for how they sound and/or look. Besides, re-writing wire copy is not exactly a high art. And I am aware that "CBS Newsradio" does employ "writers." If the newscasters write their own copy, what do the writers do all day? I don't think we are getting the full story here, but I appreciate you do have to give us the company line.

I am not a "news guru, but when I have been in a position to work with "CBS Newsradio" I have not been a satisfied customer. The newsfeeds appear put together for your convenience, not the stations. Maybe you people assume that everybody is like Newsradio 88 and has union engineers sitting around all day with nothing to do but record newsfeeds. It seems like you just dump whatever you have into the newsfeeds and leave it to us to find something useful. In contrast, AP is selective and they post sound material on their website, so I can easily and conveniently go get what I want - when I want it.

Your desk people are arrogant in the extreme. They appear to think we work for them - not the other way around. When they want something, they seem to think we should drop everything to get it and feed it. When we have something to offer, we are often blown off when we call.

When I have had occasion to call, the desk people usually (but not always)answer the phone "network news." I was told this is because they deal with affiliates of multiple network "brands."

I am not a programming guru but to my ear CBS Radio Newscasts have always been a bit stodgy; the "Tiffany" network thing, I guess. Once it worked. In recent years, however, CBS radio newscasts have been dummed down and "CBS Newsradio" has tried to make the newscasts sound more contemporary (i.e., more like ABC). The result: More fluff. Shorter stories. Sound for the sake of having sound. Sound bites from correspondents rather than actual reports. But still stodgy. Sort of like an old lady dressed in teen age slutware.

Radio news, like radio in general, is built on hype and self-promotion. No one can believe what radio people say about themselves, their operations, their organizations or their ratings.

 

[nwebster]

More Scribbling

Same old - same old Nixon-McCarthy-Dubya tactics.

Typically, you don't respond to the current post, you respond to an old post. Sometimes, you don't even do that: You respond to something Brian Maloney posted. In debate and logic texts, it's called "setting up straw man."

Your replies are almost never about the post. Almost always about the poster. This is call "Ad Hominem" arguement.

Your third tactic is to declare that the person with whom you disagree does not know what they are talking about because someone with whom you do agree has said so. This is called appeal to authority.

All are considered logical fallacies.

Try posting something relevant for a change and then we can talk.

 

[actioncentral]

Re: "CBS Radio Network"

Today, Westwood One is only directly involved in NBC News Radio. WW1 staffers
write the scripts, produce the updates and sometimes anchor the newscasts.
THis was similar to the WW1/FOX arrangement before FOX left WW1. CBS, CNN, CNBC,
and Marketwatch.com have editorial control over their product. WW1 distributes
and sells time.
CBS DID produce, anchor and report on the old Mutual/NBC Radio/(CBS) Spectrum
newscasts. CBS News Radio was contracted to handle those newscasts, which were generic "no name" CBS Spectrum newscasts, with WW1 placing sounders and pre-recorded lockouts on the NBC and MBS channels.
action central
> CBS Newsradio (actually Westwood One)was Mutual News before
> they acquired the right to use the CBS "brand" on newscasts.
> They also operate under the NBC and CNN pseudonyms, and
> used Fox for a while, too.

 

[autopaint-1]

Re: "CBS Radio Network"

> Bob, you are clearly an intelligent guy and your posts are
> well thought-out. I can also appreciate you are in a rather
> difficult position here (if you are posting under your real
> name) because your future employment may depend on not
> saying anything of which your employers or co-workers may
> disapprove. In effect, if you can't say anything nice, you
> can't say anything at all. This forces you to be come a
> company flack. Maybe someday you can come back with a
> handle and let us know what you really think.


I can honestly say if I felt otherwise I wouldn't have responded at all. My response may not fit your view of the world but having worked at my job for nearly 30 years and in that time having come in contact with and worked with Mr. Rather more than a few times, I am providing my opinions based on my experiences. I am commenting from home so my employment does not have anything to do with the opinions I've expressed and as far as Nom De Plums go are you really the Merriam Webster

>
> You said (in another post) Dan Rather is a "gentleman." I
> don't know him personally. Walking off in a hissy fit when
> a sports event runs over is not exactly the mark of a
> gentleman. Roger Mudd, in print, called him "the J.R. Ewing
> of CBS News." But, again, your comment about him suggests
> you are somewhat constrained in what you can say here.

Wrong again. We don't know the circumstances for "the fit" as you say. I remember the broadcast and can not say why he left, but if an entire career is to be judged by cryptic accusations over a singular event, I'd say we are all in trouble. I do know that Rather had lots of enemies.

>
> Apparently you and others who have responded are not
> familiar with the meaning of the word "anchor." The term
> was coined by Don Hewitt in 1952 to describe the role he
> envisioned for Walter Cronkite in the network's coverage of
> the political conventions. The term refers to the way
> convention coverage was organized around Cronkite. It does
> not refer to whether a newscaster writes all or some of his
> own copy. At the time (and for the next nine years)Cronkite
> anchored special events coverage and coverage of breaking
> stories. Douglas Edwards was the network's primary
> newscaster. The role of anchor and newscaster is still
> distinct in Britain and other countries. The term has
> become so over-used in this country that everyone who reads
> news on the air calls themselves an "anchor."

I knew Doug quite well and worked with him for nearly 20 years. I don't need you to define Anchor for me. The English language is flexible and evolving and whether you believe the word to be used correctly is nit picking. The term Anchorman (gender notwithstanding) is generally defined as a person who reads the news on TV from a specific location and who is supported by a team of reporters located elsewhere around the world.

>
> To call someone a "journalist" because they read news (and
> even write some of their own copy) is like calling a disc
> jockey a musician. Maybe some of them were at some point in
> their careers, but it is clearly not a job requirement.
> This is show business and people get hired for how they
> sound and/or look. Besides, re-writing wire copy is not
> exactly a high art. And I am aware that "CBS Newsradio"
> does employ "writers." If the newscasters write their own
> copy, what do the writers do all day?

Uhh, interview people to get tape which can be used within a broadcast. My wife was a writer so I have first hand knowledge of this. Writers also edit copy and operate as assignment editors


I don't think we are
> getting the full story here, but I appreciate you do have to
> give us the company line.


And you are making claims based on assumptions and nothing more.


>
> I am not a "news guru, but when I have been in a position to
> work with "CBS Newsradio" I have not been a satisfied
> customer. The newsfeeds appear put together for your
> convenience, not the stations. Maybe you people assume that
> everybody is like Newsradio 88 and has union engineers
> sitting around all day with nothing to do but record
> newsfeeds.

The network has been combo for about 6 years already. Newsradio 880 has been combo longer. Your info is dated, sorry. By the way, the Writers, Anchors and Engineers are Union. Always have been and always will be as far as I can tell. The Engineers still do maintenance and program distribution.


It seems like you just dump whatever you have
> into the newsfeeds and leave it to us to find something
> useful. In contrast, AP is selective and they post sound
> material on their website, so I can easily and conveniently
> go get what I want - when I want it.


Maybe so but CBS is a full service network as opposed to a AP. CBS provide feature material as well as sports programming. I believe AP does some hourly news (At least one of their anchors worked for CBS at one time) and is basically a cut service. The bigger stations take both a full service network like CBS for what it offers and an AP for their cut service.


>
> Your desk people are arrogant in the extreme. They appear
> to think we work for them - not the other way around. When
> they want something, they seem to think we should drop
> everything to get it and feed it. When we have something to
> offer, we are often blown off when we call.

So it's coming out now, If you have a personal vendetta against CBS I'd suggest you get over it and move on. Maybe what you have to offer isn't all that newsworthy on a national level or maybe your brand of journalism isn't up to snuff. No one can FORCE you to feed the network. All they can do is make requests.

>
> When I have had occasion to call, the desk people usually
> (but not always)answer the phone "network news." I was told
> this is because they deal with affiliates of multiple
> network "brands."


Absolutely incorrect. The DA's answer CBS News. That has never changed

Every point you have made, I have been able to counter. Unless you have proof positive about any of your accusations, I'd suggest you not make any further comments about something you obviously don't know anything about. It's sad to note that typically these kind of false statements are taken as gospel because there isn't anyone to respond to said accusations. I do thank you for the compliment regarding my perceived intelligence.

 

[BinaryCodex]

Re: "Mister" for current and former Presidents

> They also used "Mr. Clinton", "Mr. Reagan", "Mr. Carter",
> etc. That's a stylebook issue, hardly one of partisanship.
>

Further, even when a President leaves office, he will always be addressed as "Mister President"...a title he keeps for life.

 

[nwebster]

Experts

>
> Every point you have made, I have been able to counter.
> Unless you have proof positive about any of your
> accusations, I'd suggest you not make any further comments
> about something you obviously don't know anything about.
> It's sad to note that typically these kind of false
> statements are taken as gospel because there isn't anyone to
> respond to said accusations.


What you are saying amounts to: "I'm an expert and you're not; I know what I'm talking about and you don't; therefore you must provide proof but I don't have to because I am an expert." Sorry, such posts don't persuade me. We live in an empirical age and appeals to authority (especially one's own) are not valid.

I don't take anyone's word for anything.
"If your mother tells you she loves you, check it out." - City News Bureau of Chicago.

Anyone without newspaper or wire service experience can not claim to be a true journalist. If one requires "truth in advertising," those who recycle the news for broadcast should have job titles like:
Teleprompter Reader (TV "anchor")
Mic Holder ("correspondent")
Human Tripod (cameraman)
Desk Assistant (gofer)
News Jockey (radio news "anchor")

Journalism: The most pretentious branch of show business.

If it's such a meaningful occupation, how come the pay is so lousy?

 

[nwebster]

The founding fathers did not want Kings

The Brits and the Commonwealth Countries omit the honorific when addressing the Prime Minister and Cabinet members.

However, the point is CBS' practice of using the honorific in subsequent reference for the incumbent president - and only in the incumbent president. The AP no longer uses the honorific at all. The New York Times uses it for everybody. Only CBS continues this practice to elevate the executive - a form of subliminal propaganda.

This goes on for a while and an administration will start to claim unlimited powers and people will buy it -- oh, wait! That's already happened. Right. Replace the Republic with an Empire. It worked so well for Rome. Napoleonic France. Weimar Germany.

 

[buster2]

Re: The founding fathers did not want Kings

> The Brits and the Commonwealth Countries omit the honorific
> when addressing the Prime Minister and Cabinet members.
>
> However, the point is CBS' practice of using the honorific
> in subsequent reference for the incumbent president - and
> only in the incumbent president. The AP no longer uses the
> honorific at all. The New York Times uses it for everybody.
> Only CBS continues this practice to elevate the executive -
> a form of subliminal propaganda.
>
> This goes on for a while and an administration will start to
> claim unlimited powers and people will buy it -- oh, wait!
> That's already happened. Right. Replace the Republic with
> an Empire. It worked so well for Rome. Napoleonic France.
> Weimar Germany.
>

Slowly... step away from the keyboard and remember to do just one thing... BREATHE! The oxygen ain't getting all the way to the top, son! It's a stylebook issue. I learned it when Carter was president. Some organizations still use it, some don't. It's not proof of some cabal.

 

[SaltyDog]

The Founding Father With A Bad Idea

In office for only a month, John Adams entered an extended debate over what title to use in addressing the nation's chief executive. The House had proposed "Mr. President." Believing that titles inspire respect, Adams hoped the Senate would recommend something like "His Majesty the President." Ultimately, the Senate agreed to the House version, but word of Adams' seemingly aristocratic attitude leaked out of the closed Senate sessions and earned him considerable public scorn.

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