CBS-FM Sunday Night Countdown Gone

[scooty430]

Looks like the 1964 countdown may have been the last one. The Top 20 Countdown link has been removed from the website.

Too bad. It was a nice bone to throw on low-rated Sunday night to longtime listeners and oldies fans.

 

[davideduardo]

Looks like the 1964 countdown may have been the last one. The Top 20 Countdown link has been removed from the website.

Too bad. It was a nice bone to throw on low-rated Sunday night to longtime listeners and oldies fans.

But that sort of specialty show does not work well on gold based stations in the PPM.

 

[radio124]

Yes,too bad. I was hoping KRTH would copy CBS-FM and start their own countdown on Sunday nights with Charlie Tuna. But as David just stated, in today's PPM world there is zero chance of that happening.

 

[oldies76]

Looks like the 1964 countdown may have been the last one. The Top 20 Countdown link has been removed from the website.

Too bad. It was a nice bone to throw on low-rated Sunday night to longtime listeners and oldies fans.

But that sort of specialty show does not work well on gold based stations in the PPM.

It was great while it lasted. Maybe due to the fact that Jeff Maazei was released, the popularity may have dwindled??
The music on CBS-FM and other specialties more than enough, make up for this loss.

At least the Top 5 at 9pm is on-going.

 

[scooty430]

My guess is they fired Jeff Mazzei to save money, and since he did the countdown, it died with him. They probably felt they didn't want to pay someone to create that show (which clearly took some time to research and record - a real labor of love.) It's cheaper to just put the station on automation Sunday night.

Strangely, it looks like they are keeping the "Radio Greats" feature, but maybe those guys are volunteering.

Never give up hope on K-Earth emerging from the Valley of Suckdom. And don't believe everything you hear about PPM. Just a few weeks or months ago, we were told (by the same poster) that we would see MORE specialty features (like A to Z and whatnot) with PPM. And lo and behold, KRTH spent a week plus playing all sorts of goodies with a Z to A, clearly modeled on CBS-FM.

Now we are told that it doesn't work with PPM. Whatever. Boring is boring. Bring on the quality programming with heart and soul. The listeners will find it.

 

[davideduardo]

My guess is they fired Jeff Mazzei to save money, and since he did the countdown, it died with him. They probably felt they didn't want to pay someone to create that show (which clearly took some time to research and record - a real labor of love.) It's cheaper to just put the station on automation Sunday night.

That's a guess, as you say. The fact is that with adult targeted gold based stations, specialty shows seem to harm both the station and the daypart in the PPM. Specialty shows were invented based on their "memory jogging" ability for the diary survey. New York is not a diary market.

Never give up hope on K-Earth emerging from the Valley of Suckdom.

They won't be changing, despite your irrational approach to analysis of their programming, because they do BETTER than CBS-Fm and are in a market with a lot more revenue in it.

They have a higher percentage of salable listeners than CBS FM does, and they are in a market that bills more than NYC. By either metric, they are winning.

And don't believe everything you hear about PPM. Just a few weeks or months ago, we were told (by the same poster) that we would see MORE specialty features (like A to Z and whatnot) with PPM.

A feature weekend is not a specialty show.

I've actually seen the results of removing all weekend specialty shows and adding a 48-hour ongoing feature, and the ratings confirm my statement: specialty shows help people remember what they heard in a diary, but they actually have less, not more, audience than what we saw in the diary.

And lo and behold, KRTH spent a week plus playing all sorts of goodies with a Z to A, clearly modeled on CBS-FM.

And your point is? American Top 40 is a specialty show, while a "solod gold weekend" on an AC is not.

 

[videokilledtheradiostar]

Why not pipe in Billy Bush? Seems to work for every other station that nixes a local show or fires local talent.
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[BruceS8852]

Strangely, it looks like they are keeping the "Radio Greats" feature, but maybe those guys are volunteering.

Believe me, the "Radio Greats" are compensated for their services. Their union would absolutely forbid anyone from working for nothing.

Bruce

 

[andreajesus]

Strangely, it looks like they are keeping the "Radio Greats" feature, but maybe those guys are volunteering.

Believe me, the "Radio Greats" are compensated for their services. Their union would absolutely forbid anyone from working for nothing.

Bruce

Bruce, do you know that for sure, or are you just guessing on this one?? ???

Andrea

 

[RADIO TRUTH]

The CBS-FM countdown is gone because nobody who works there can count to twenty. The radio greats, and that term should be used lightly, get AFTRA minimum scale which is about $15.00 an hour and they are overpaid
at this compensation rate.

 

[scooty430]

My guess is they fired Jeff Mazzei to save money, and since he did the countdown, it died with him. They probably felt they didn't want to pay someone to create that show (which clearly took some time to research and record - a real labor of love.) It's cheaper to just put the station on automation Sunday night.

That's a guess, as you say. The fact is that with adult targeted gold based stations, specialty shows seem to harm both the station and the daypart in the PPM. Specialty shows were invented based on their "memory jogging" ability for the diary survey. New York is not a diary market.

Never give up hope on K-Earth emerging from the Valley of Suckdom.

They won't be changing, despite your irrational approach to analysis of their programming, because they do BETTER than CBS-Fm and are in a market with a lot more revenue in it.

They have a higher percentage of salable listeners than CBS FM does, and they are in a market that bills more than NYC. By either metric, they are winning.

And don't believe everything you hear about PPM. Just a few weeks or months ago, we were told (by the same poster) that we would see MORE specialty features (like A to Z and whatnot) with PPM.

A feature weekend is not a specialty show.

I've actually seen the results of removing all weekend specialty shows and adding a 48-hour ongoing feature, and the ratings confirm my statement: specialty shows help people remember what they heard in a diary, but they actually have less, not more, audience than what we saw in the diary.

And lo and behold, KRTH spent a week plus playing all sorts of goodies with a Z to A, clearly modeled on CBS-FM.

And your point is? American Top 40 is a specialty show, while a "solod gold weekend" on an AC is not.

Huh?

The KRTH Z to A was not a "solid gold weekend," it lasted a week plus and it was lots of songs, old and new, that don't usually get on the air. (What you'd call 'stiffs,' though they are wonderful to hear.)

And KRTH is an Oldies station, not an Adult Contemporary station. Or "Classic Hits," if you insist on the latest corporate lingo.

 

[oldies76]

Scooty, want some more great "stiffs"..catch JET 107.9 (KDZA) this Friday beginning at 4pm MT (3pm PT) and thru this weekend. They are doing the Top 70 songs of 1973, 74, 75 & 76!! Should be great.

It's what the listeners want..otherwise...why are they doing this specialty?
Ratings should increase.