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CBS-FM Top 1001 Labor Day Weekend Countdown
- Thread starter oldies76
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Fwiw, first-cousin WOGL in Philadelphia is playing the number one songs of the decades. Really taking a chance. I caugtht them yesterday on a work job via a portable. They were playing 'Go Away Little Girl' by Donny Osmond. The jock didn't really sound that enthusiastic.
I had more listening fun tring to ID what I believe was 97.9 Baltimore coming in, on the next channel, 130 miles away, during a brief tropo window. But nowadays, I'll listen to anything different.
Time will tell if the Papal Measurement Meters will treat these summer holiday efforts well. After all, good portion of the 'Greatest Hits' demo has to've grown up a little bit, past the time time they experienced white knuckles while listening to a survey.
Only-games-in-town should strut all the time, not float belly up 360 days of the year and ask for a pledge drive during barbeques.
I had more listening fun tring to ID what I believe was 97.9 Baltimore coming in, on the next channel, 130 miles away, during a brief tropo window. But nowadays, I'll listen to anything different.
Time will tell if the Papal Measurement Meters will treat these summer holiday efforts well. After all, good portion of the 'Greatest Hits' demo has to've grown up a little bit, past the time time they experienced white knuckles while listening to a survey.
Only-games-in-town should strut all the time, not float belly up 360 days of the year and ask for a pledge drive during barbeques.
Jacko said:
In markets that size, the lists are locally prepared, using a variety of data.
oldies76 said:
Not necessarily, although that is one element. Everyone knows that the charts were very unreliable and subject to outside influences. The start is likely the Whitburn books, and if the station has access, trades like Gavin and, later, Hamilton and even R&R.
The exception might be a #1 weekend, that has to use some kind of recognizable chart as a base mostly for optics.
Because the real strength of individual songs is so subjective, the real basis for any such feature is the PD themselves. This is the "I don't care what it charted, I'm not playing Staff Sergeant Barry Sadler" factor.
The problem with station lists is that in most markets there were a variety of stations. Take the home of the term "rock and roll" Cleveland: you'd have to look at WERE, WJW (Where Alan Freed and Pete Myers came from), WHK, KYW, WKRC, WIXY, and that was before the CHR FMs of the earlier 70's and on...
DavidEduardo said:
Funny you mention Sadler. WOGL played it a few hours ago, during their #1 hits special. They are featuring 1960 thru 1989 for their #1's. Looking at other stations around the country, several are actually playing #1's this Labor Day Weekend. I do not recall this last year. Any reason for the change? Just a PD choice or since several stations are involved, more of a company-wide decision, I suppose.
oldies76 said:
You just saw why I mentioned the exception for the #1 weekends... personally, I'd skip the chance at being historically correct and just skip that week...
Weekend specials tire unless refreshed. The likely scenario is that one of the station in the group did the #1 thing in a PPM market and the result was pleasing. Remember, long weekends generally show just horrible use of radio and use of certain stations on the workday that becomes the third day of the holiday, so anything that will work is acceptable and of value.
David, I agree. Weekend specials can tire unless refreshed. In the case of CBS-FM, I could be looking at them through rose-colored glasses but even their daily programming have that "special" something that makes even all those overplayed songs tolerable. IMHO, the programming genius @ CBS-FM and for that matter some of their sister stations doing the format are just awesome.
Speaking of keeping things fresh, there are quite a few differences so far in what they presented last year. On the 60s/70s board we've been chatting a bit about a 60s only type countdown. If anyone would be able to pull it off, it would be WCBS-FM.
But in reality, I would think hearing music from just 1 decade over a few days would not be a smart thing. In seems in countdowns like this if you are a traditional oldies lover or you like the 70s or even the 80s, there will be some wow moments. Once this is all said and done, it will be interesting to see how many 60 songs are played. These guys just know how to pick the right ones and occasionally going in the early 60s maybe even giving the impression they are playing more 60s than they really are - again, it takes a masterful programmer to do that.
Regardless of the decreased # of listeners on long weekends, it's great to see CBS Radio make the effort. Sadly, most in the format - don't!
Speaking of keeping things fresh, there are quite a few differences so far in what they presented last year. On the 60s/70s board we've been chatting a bit about a 60s only type countdown. If anyone would be able to pull it off, it would be WCBS-FM.
But in reality, I would think hearing music from just 1 decade over a few days would not be a smart thing. In seems in countdowns like this if you are a traditional oldies lover or you like the 70s or even the 80s, there will be some wow moments. Once this is all said and done, it will be interesting to see how many 60 songs are played. These guys just know how to pick the right ones and occasionally going in the early 60s maybe even giving the impression they are playing more 60s than they really are - again, it takes a masterful programmer to do that.
Regardless of the decreased # of listeners on long weekends, it's great to see CBS Radio make the effort. Sadly, most in the format - don't!
JohnJax said:
You make a really good point... actually, several points, here.
I think one of the issues in playing 60's songs for a 70's-core radio station is dictated by the degree to which those 60's tunes got played as "flashbacks" in the 70's. Around the mid-60's Top 40's started playing quite a few "golds" and by the 70's it was quite normal to have several an hour. Thus, a 13-year-old in 1974 might be hearing with some frequency quite a few different 60's songs, thus making those songs, to that young listener, part of their 70's experience... in other words, if "The Letter" was still played and "Let It All Hang Out" was not, the former became a 70's hit and the latter became an unknown song with no memories attached for the 70's generation. That's probably the biggest reason why original release chart position alone is only a part of the decision making process on each song today.
DavidEduardo said:
I'd aim for a happy medium between historical accuracy and "songs that the CIA wouldn't even use on Al Qaeda." The aformentioned "Ballad of the Green Berets" and "Honey" wouldn't see airplay, but "One Bad Apple" would.
Some songs stand the test of time. Others...well, not so much.
Songs #11 to #1001 are posted on WCBS-FM's website in list form.
http://wcbsfm.radio.com/2011/09/02/cbs-fms-top-1001-labor-day-weekend-countdown-2/
The Top 10 is listed on separate pages for each song with videos included.
http://wcbsfm.radio.com/2011/09/06/...cbs-fms-top-1001-labor-day-weekend-countdown/
http://wcbsfm.radio.com/2011/09/02/cbs-fms-top-1001-labor-day-weekend-countdown-2/
The Top 10 is listed on separate pages for each song with videos included.
http://wcbsfm.radio.com/2011/09/06/...cbs-fms-top-1001-labor-day-weekend-countdown/
Brown Eyed Girl by Van Morrision has been played to death on WCBS-FM for years. I suppose listeners voted for it out of familiarity. In the Still of the Night was #15 and has rarely been played in this new era of WCBS-FM.
Bruce
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good song Brown eyed Girl. should it be #1? many others I cna think of should be, but its a good choice. It was a busy weekend for me, I could not listen much, anyone know if "along comes Mary" came in and what # Many years ago Dan Daniel would play that for me, I voted that for one of my 3 songs to vote, the other 2 were Lighning strikes, and Imagine Hope all had a Great Holiday, now Halloween will be here soon ugh!!!- Status