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CBS has found a replacement for "As The World Turns"

It's interesting to know that CBS affiliates have to pay a penalty if they move "Let's Make a Deal" to 10/9C and the ratings drop (does CBS pay the affiliates if the ratings go up?!!?...LOL). I'd also be curious to know if CBS holds that over the heads of affiliates nationwide, or if it's on a market by market basis, depending on the local market and/or what the competition might be. This is also particularly interesting (and perhaps a bit hypocritical) since a good chunk of CBS O&O's, particularly in the East, air "Deal" in the morning (as they did "Guiding Light"). Does anybody know if "Deal" tends to get better ratings in the afternoon or morning?

Since CBS is replacing ATWT with a talk show, I would probably tend to want to move "Deal" to the morning if I was programming a CBS affiliate. As bpatrick stated, the flow is just better: You have the two network game shows back-to-back, then the two soaps back-to-back (at least in the East), and then you follow the new CBS talk show with syndicated talk. Seems like a no-brainer.
 
bpatrick said:
It's "Let's Make A Deal" and not "Deal Or No Deal" that
airs on CBS at either 10 AM or 3 PM.
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So right. Not sure where my head is today!

bpatrick said:
...the general manager of CBS affiliate WFMY
Greensboro, NC, which carries "Deal" at 3, told me that if the station
moves the show and the ratings go down, the station has to pay CBS
a penalty per point lost.
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Doesn't make a lot of sense to me; especially since CBS offers a run in the morning. Perhaps if the program were tape-delayed to a time not scheduled/suggested by the network.
 
It would seem that an affiliate should be able to run
a show out-of-pattern if it wants, but the person who
told me about the CBS penalty clause runs a CBS affiliate,
and I have to take her word for it. It was the reason, she
said, that she never moved "Guiding Light" to 10 (she really
didn't need to, since "GL" performed better in Greensboro
than in most of the country right to the end).

And there are at least a couple of stations that air "LMAD"
at 9 (ET); I know WKMG Orlando does.

I'm not sure, however, that many affiliates outside the Eastern
time zone would subscribe to my program-flow scheme, penalty
or no penalty. The kicker is that they would have to move the
noon news to 11 AM and "Y&R" to 11:30, and I'm not sure many
stations would be willing to do that; although "Price Is Right" could
be a very viable lead-in to an 11 AM news, most viewers in the earlier
time zones are used to "Y&R" leading into a noon newscast, and most
station managers would figure: why mess up a good thing? After all,
only six stations run "Y&R" at 11:30 and three of them are o&os (Los
Angeles, Chicago, and Dallas). But I can see "LMAD" moving to 9 AM
and being replaced by a talk show at 2 PM (CT/MT/PT).
 
DToTheJ said:
So, first, it had the working title of "The Site."

Now, it will officially be called "The Talk."

I hear rejected titles for the show include "The Chat," "The Blab," "The Word," "The Idea," and "The Moms," among others.
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Yeah...I guess CBS can't call the show what it really is: "Julie Chen & some other women doing "The View"". ;D
 
Well, "Chen & Co." would have been great for the title of the new CBS talk Show. It will be produced by Sara Gilbert's company, Tom Forman Productions, and CBS News. Chen wil continue on to do The Live "Big Brother" eviction shows every summer, but as far as Julie Chen's job on "The Early Show" as concerned. Well, CBS is looking for a high-profiled replacement for Chen. And "The Today Show"'s Ann Curry might join the ship.
 
So, just how do the affiliates really feel about not recovering this hour of programming, as it was thought they would at one time? And would the new network lineup and feed schedule affect stations like WLKY-TV, Louisville, that air "Y&R" at 4 PM EST/EDT, same-day delayed? (It's a strong counterplay against "Oprah" on WHAS/ABC, "Ellen" on WAVE/NBC, and "News at 4" on WDRB/Fox.)
 
And As the World Turns was a reason to turn it on? :D Just sayin...
 
The King Bee said:
So, just how do the affiliates really feel about not recovering this hour of programming, as it was thought they would at one time? And would the new network lineup and feed schedule affect stations like WLKY-TV, Louisville, that air "Y&R" at 4 PM EST/EDT, same-day delayed? (It's a strong counterplay against "Oprah" on WHAS/ABC, "Ellen" on WAVE/NBC, and "News at 4" on WDRB/Fox.)
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I don't think it will have any effect. "Deal," AFAIK, will continue to be fed at 3/2, so WLKY won't have to change its schedule (neither will WRAL, which also airs "Y&R" at 4 and beats Oprah), and I would suspect that most--if not all--CBS stations will carry Julie Chen at 2/1 (except maybe in the Mountain time zone, where there might be some delays due to the live feed at noon).

I brought up the subject of "Deal" in the morning simply because I think it makes for better program flow to air it at 10 AM. But that does not mean that CBS is going to eliminate the afternoon feed.
 
"LMAD" does have a 9 AM feed; WKMG/6 Orlando carries it.
But my point is that--aside from the possibility of more stations
figuring that "LMAD" isn't doing that badly in the morning, so why
don't we move it--things aren't going to change radically. I look
for a straight transition from "ATWT" to Julie Chen by most, if not
all, the affiliates, and some of the stations less willing to take a
gamble to keep "LMAD" at 3. I also don't see "Y&R" moving out of
the 4 PM slot in Louisville and Raleigh; it's done too well neutralizing
Oprah. (I wonder, though, what WLKY and WRAL would do at 4 if
both were still ABC affiliates, and the two stations that have Oprah--
WHAS and WTVD--were still with CBS. ???)
 
KMOV in St. Louis also airs Y&R at 4. I will be interesting to see if the CBS affiliates that delay Y&R to 4 continue to do so after Oprah goes away.
 
They'll still need a strong lead-in to their 5 PM news.
Perennially third-place WLKY began winning 5 PM after
placing "Y&R" at 4, and WRAL wins a tight battle with
WTVD at 5. I don't think either CBS station will sacrifice
that advantage.
 
Troy Goodwin said:
Well, "Chen & Co." would have been great for the title of the new CBS talk Show. It will be produced by Sara Gilbert's company, Tom Forman Productions, and CBS News. Chen wil continue on to do The Live "Big Brother" eviction shows every summer, but as far as Julie Chen's job on "The Early Show" as concerned. Well, CBS is looking for a high-profiled replacement for Chen. And "The Today Show"'s Ann Curry might join the ship.
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She's too professional for something like this.

Oh, wait, so was Barbara Walters.
 
There was a moment of history when CBS interrupted "ATWT" in 1963 when President Kennedy was assassinated in Downtown Dallas. Shots were coming from the sixth floor of The Texas Book Depository. It was the moment that changed America forever...
 
Troy Goodwin said:
The outgoing daytime soap will be replaced by a new talk show hosted by Julie Chen, with Sara Gilbert, Leah Remini, and Sharon Osbourne rounding up the panel. The new show would be based over at CBS Television City Studios in L.A., and it won't make its debut once ATWT leaves daytime on September 17th; It will however premiere on Monday, October 4th. CBS will fill the void with TPIR reruns for the time being.
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Update: The new ripoff show is now scheduled to debut on October 18, and not October 4, as originally scheduled:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/08/1...e-talk-show-premieres-monday-october-18/59713

In addition, there will be six co-hosts in total. In addition to the aforementioned and Holly Robinson Peete, they will be joined by some woman named Marissa Janet Winokur. Gee, I bet those folks at "The View" are quaking in their boots at this news! Watch them add a sixth member to their on-air ensemble!
 
Not to mention that its HIGHLY unlikely that CBS O&O KCNC 4 here in Denver will move LMAD to 10:00 AM unless they move Rachael Ray to 2:00 PM as this move would leave them exposed in the mornings (And there's A LOT of talk shows on the dial in the mornings). They would also lose their grip on the afternoon game show crowd who would undoubtedly flip to ION or GSN.

In fact, I would go so far as to say they're logistically not in a position to.

And since Oprah is leaving, KCNC will likely replace her show by re-entering the 4:00 PM news war (KMGH 7 & KUSA 9 already have 4:00 PM newscasts & KCNC started the pre-5:00 PM news war way back in the 1980s when they debuted First News which started out as a 30 minute newscast @ 4:30 and then expanded to an hour before being axed to accomondate Oprah, which KMGH 7 dropped to enter the 4:00 PM news war).

What will likely happen IMO is they'll simply replace ATWT with the new show @ 1:00 PM & leave it at that.

JMO though.....

Cheers :D
 
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