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CBS News Radio Closed
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The tagline is now "America's listening to Fox News".
That theory makes no sense, especially considering the many news/talk, all-talk, and small-market radio stations that use it. They want to be identified with Fox.
Many of those of CBS news affiliates are small market full service music stations. I see iHeart/NBC as the big winner in attracting those type of stations as a replacement.
It's a big deal. CBS has about 700 affiliates for TOH, Fox about 500. A poster above on this thread made a statement that "...the notable talk stations mostly use Fox News Radio." The numbers tell a somewhat different tale. Then again, "notable" can mean pretty much whatever you want it to mean. At least in my part of the world, the "notable" news/talk stations like KIRO use CBS, and the 1kW blowtorches in Yakima are more likely to be the ones running Fox TOH.
Like everyone else I am disappointed to hear the closure of CBS News Radio. Considering the closure of WCBS AM New York in 2024, this now brings it to a full closure. I truly feel ABC will be the next to bow out. If that happens Radio News will be state run (FOX, Salem USA) which completes Trump's vision. As far as NBC News Radio goes from a previous thread, KKNW in Seattle is the only station I know that carries that service with that brand following the rebrand of most operations to iHeart 24/7 News in 2024 as well.
iHeart is a major operator of talk stations in large and medium markets, and almost all of them use Fox News Radio (which is distributed by iHeart's Premiere Networks) -- unless another, more listened to, talk station has FNR in that market.
Let me say that I doubt the "500 affiliates" number you found, which appears to have been sourced from the ever reliable Wikipedia. There's over 40 FNR affiliates listed on their web site, just in Kentucky. Somehow, I doubt my state has 8% of the national total.
There is public perception. When I hear hear FOX news on a music station, I can't help but think "conservative". I like streaming small market music radio stations particularly full service, and I honestly can't think of one that uses FOX (I'm sure there are), but it's usually ABC or CBS.
IMHO If you look at the ownership, the goal is not "business". It's silencing views that aren't lock step in support of Trump. CNN is going to get "Tony" treatment next. Not the best look for capitalism.
NPR has a huge opportunity here, if they realize it and choose to seize it. NPR already has a well-staffed, well-equipped newsroom with a number of network news veterans working there. They're already producing hourlies. How much additional effort would it take to repackage what they're already feeding to their affiliates and create faster-paced, somewhat more superficial versions of the NPR hourlies, using either existing staff or a few new hires from the CBS castoffs? Create a for-profit subsidiary, sell one minute out of a five minute 'cast, and market it to commercial stations who will soon be orphaned by the decision of CBS's brain trust. Or supply a three minute cast with no hole for commercials, but which they can sell to those same CBS orphans for a modest amount of cash. It would probably need to be branded a bit differently from the normal NPR fare ("NPR on the Hour?"), but if it could fill that hole for those stations at less than they're currently paying, while bringing in needed revenue to offset some of the news-gathering costs NPR already pays, it could be a win-win.
OK guys, launch your torpedoes at this idea. 🤯
The reason CBS is getting out of this business is because the advertising isn't enough to cover the expense. Why would NPR enter the failing ad-supported news business? It makes no sense. What they're instead doing is doubling down on the fact that they're NOT ad supported, and instead membership based. In that way, the NPR member stations are better than their commercial competition.
NPR Unveils ‘For Your Right To Be Curious’ Campaign.
NPR has launched a national campaign titled “For your right to be curious,” aimed at underscoring what the organization describes as its commitment to protecting Americans’ right to ask questions.
Putting NPR news on a bunch of low quality AMs filled with crappy commercials hurts the brand of NPR news.
Then you don't brand it as NPR. Pick a different name, something evocative of CBS News but separate enough so there will be no confusion or claims of trademark infringement. CBS can't exactly claim NPR is stealing something they themselves have just declared to be worthless, can they?The reason CBS is getting out of this business is because the advertising isn't enough to cover the expense. Why would NPR enter the failing ad-supported news business? It makes no sense. What they're instead doing is doubling down on the fact that they're NOT ad supported, and instead membership based. In that way, the NPR member stations are better than their commercial competition.
NPR Unveils ‘For Your Right To Be Curious’ Campaign.
NPR has launched a national campaign titled “For your right to be curious,” aimed at underscoring what the organization describes as its commitment to protecting Americans’ right to ask questions.www.insideradio.com
Putting NPR news on a bunch of low quality AMs filled with crappy commercials hurts the brand of NPR news.
For NPR it's not really about how they decide to brand it, it's about spreading the news gathering costs over a wider base of listeners and distributors. I would think the main source of pushback would be from their own affilated stations that compete in many markets (e.g., KCBS v. KQED, KYW v. WHYY, etc.)
Several years ago, KGBB-FM, a commercial music station licensed to Edwards, CA, carried stories from NPR on its website. (I do not know if the station aired the network's hourly news live--I never heard it if it did.) Anyway, after reading your response, I went and checked the station's website. Sure enough, it had switched to ABC for its news source.
Do I think that NPR can hold out as a non-commercial news source in the long term. The answer will lie in the willingness and ability of its member stations and corporate sponsors to supply it with the necessary cash. With the economy appearing to move into a downturn, it will be hard for the member stations and corporate sponsors to keep up with the numbers.
That said, I agree with the commentor who said that advertisers are no longer buying as much time on commercial news outlets as they have done in the past. So NPR running a commercial news service for radio stations seems like a pretty far-fetched idea for now.
You ignored my main point, which is there's no money in it. That's why CBS shut it down.
Around the time of the CBS News Radio change in distribution companies, KCJJ, which runs CBS News Radio TOH, was offered to either continue with CBS News Radio or switch to ABC News Radio from the representative. Steve the owner talked about it on the air at the time.
This is probably even more farfetched, but my thought is: the BBC needs money and could try to use this as an opportunity to expand their American station coverage, beyond just NPR affiliates.
But if they are although producing a similar newscast there would be no additional expense for NPR. So perhaps they could make a little money as they’ve already incurred the expense of producing the newscast. That said, I don’t know if NPR would even be interested in doing this.
It would have to be completely separate, or they lose their tax exempt status.
I believe the TV part of CBS News does the majority of the news gathering. Except for the news reader, a couple of folks to rewrite (AFTRA?) the stories for radio, and a technical person (CWA) it appears to be a petty low cost operation. I bet payroll is less than $300 an hour. Can they get a 50 cents for a thirty sec commercial per station? That would give the $500 per hour with 2 thirties. I would like to make $200 an hour.
You greatly underestimate the cost of running a national news operation in NYC.
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