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CBS News Radio Closed

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gr8oldies said:
Therefore every migrant, without exception is universally guilty. That's the implication and used all the time by the administration and Fox.
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No, that is not what I hear on Fox, and I am a regular viewer to the cable service. What I do hear is that undocumented immigrants are law breakers, whether they committed additional violations and crimes once they got to the U.S. And that matches the perspective of my legal immigrant family, so it does not seem exaggerated or excessive.
 
davideduardo said:
No, that is not what I hear on Fox, and I am a regular viewer to the cable service. What I do hear is that undocumented immigrants are law breakers, whether they committed additional violations and crimes once they got to the U.S.
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The media coverage makes it seem as though that's a common thing, and it's not. I fly a lot, and someone asked me about wait times for TSA. I haven't experienced any delays anywhere I've gone. But the TV reporting shows Houston's Hobby airport, and I haven't flown into Houston. So that an example of how media reporting gets extrapolated into some major national crisis.

If we are to believe the reports, there are millions of undocumented immigrants. If it's true that they've committed violent crimes, we could document it. Instead, most cities have reported a decrease in violent crime. It's not being reported on Fox.
 
TheBigA said:
If we are to believe the reports, there are millions of undocumented immigrants. If it's true that they've committed violent crimes, we could document it. Instead, most cities have reported a decrease in violent crime. It's not being reported on Fox.
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The Pew Research statistics, confirmed or obtained by an additional a variety of sources, show about 18 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. The number is imprecise due to the large number who did not come in through ports of entry and came over the border with no apprehension, generally led by coyotes y polleros.

Pew estimates around 7 million came in the 2001 to 2004 period.

Record 14 Million Unauthorized Immigrants Lived in the US in 2023 (note that article has an update for 2023-2024.

The "decreases" in crime are significantly affected by large cities reclassifying major crimes as "infractions" to improve statistics.
 
davideduardo said:
The "decreases" in crime are significantly affected by large cities reclassifying major crimes as "infractions" to improve statistics.
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But the reporting of crime by undocumented as seen on conservative media makes it appear that it's a bigger problem than it actually is.

In fact that's why the president is in Memphis today. He's pushing that narrative. But if you speak with the republican governor of that state, he will tell you that crime isn't a big problem in his state. So there's a difference between what conservative media reports, and what conservative governors say.

A source says the Memphis mayor, Tennessee governor and U.S. Senator spoke for months about fighting crime. The National Guard was not a factor.
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davideduardo said:
No, that is not what I hear on Fox, and I am a regular viewer to the cable service. What I do hear is that undocumented immigrants are law breakers, whether they committed additional violations and crimes once they got to the U.S. And that matches the perspective of my legal immigrant family, so it does not seem exaggerated or excessive.
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Therefore, they should be kidnapped at legal court hearings, have the sh*t beaten out of them and held in inhumane conditions in a Stephen Miller gulag for working at Home Depot.
 
TheBigA said:
If we are to believe the reports, there are millions of undocumented immigrants. If it's true that they've committed violent crimes, we could document it. Instead, most cities have reported a decrease in violent crime. It's not being reported on Fox.
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Wrong.
www.foxnews.com

Murder rate drops to lowest level since 1900 across major US cities nationwide

Historic crime milestone as U.S. murders reach lowest levels since 1900. Major cities report record safety improvements through strategic enforcement.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
 
xkxrx said:
Wrong.
www.foxnews.com

Murder rate drops to lowest level since 1900 across major US cities nationwide

Historic crime milestone as U.S. murders reach lowest levels since 1900. Major cities report record safety improvements through strategic enforcement.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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That is a story about crime in general, not crime caused by illegal immigrants, which was the context of my comment.

Fox is still reporting immigrant crime as though its a national crisis.

www.foxnews.com

Chicago lawmaker ripped over 'disgusting' response to college student allegedly killed by illegal immigrant

Chicago Alderwoman Maria Hadden faces fierce backlash after suggesting slain Loyola student Sheridan Gorman was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

That's the contradiction in the way conservative media reports on these things. On the one hand, we have a major urban crime problem, but on the other hand crime is at its lowest level. Which is it? It can't be both. The story changes depending on the narrative they're pushing. The way Fox reports it, the crime is caused by democrats. Isn't that biased reporting?
 
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TheBigA said:
Here's a thought piece on the closing of CBS News Radio. I think it covers a lot of the subjects we've already discussed, but it's put together in a single piece.

barrettmedia.com

CBS News Radio's Demise: Canary in the Coal Mine or Deliberately Destroyed?

Either this is a huge problem for the radio industry or a huge overreaction by CBS News.
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I said earlier that it's both. The finances had eroded to the point where the business model didn't work. Plus it really doesn't fit with where CBS News is aiming to go. The writing was on the wall before PSKY took over.
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This was good. Thanks for sharing it.
 
newsbot2 said:
If it's true that CBS News Radio only brought in $67,000 in ad revenue in January, I would find it difficult to make a business case for its continuation.
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Hang on a sec. CBS News Radio only brought in $67K in January? (1) January's known to be the worst billing month in the typical year, what were the numbers and year-over-year comparisons for Nov and Dec?; (2) They had a distribution deal, and Audacy just recently took it over and is probably still coming up to speed on selling CBS's hourly; the former Sales & Distribution company (SkyNet? Skyfog? SkyDiddyDiddy? A name so memorable I immediately forgot it) was given notice of cancelation, and does anyone doubt they continued booking such memorable clients as Optima and Big Lou on behalf of CBSNR? Not to mention 1-877-KARS-4-KIDS? No, they probably put away the CBS sales book immediately and went to Pebble Beach.

Not saying the market for national news radio time sales hasn't been cratering. But this entire saga sounds suspiciously hopeless. Just as with Colbert, I'd like to see some more independent journalism before pushing the Believe-Me-On-Faith button.
 
gr8oldies said:
Therefore, they should be kidnapped at legal court hearings, have the sh*t beaten out of them and held in inhumane conditions in a Stephen Miller gulag for working at Home Depot.
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No, they should be captured and returned to the country they came from.
 
Weiserguy said:
January's known to be the worst billing month in the typical year, what were the numbers and year-over-year comparisons for Nov and Dec?;
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That was true 20 years ago, but less of a factor now. The change in retail advertising means there really was no Christmas bounce. The advertisers in December, which were mainly medical and insurance, were the advertisers in January. Once again, the issue with CBS News Radio is the audience is old, so the advertising base is not what it is for CHR or even country music. The fact that CBS News was strictly about TOH news, and didn't offer other product lines meant the revenue options were limited.

Weiserguy said:
They had a distribution deal, and Audacy just recently took it over and is probably still coming up to speed on selling CBS's hourly; the former Sales & Distribution company (SkyNet?
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SkyView. Yes Infinity Networks just picked them up in October, after having been dropped. SkyView also dropped ABC News Radio two years earlier. There is a track record that national news isn't growing, and advertisers for the audience are limited. If SkyView couldn't make money with it, and they had the distribution for a while, that tells you something. When Audacy took over, they immediately cut down on the programming, and CBS started cutting staff.

Options for national audio distribution are also drying up. Westwood One had handled distribution and sales for a long time, but they've left the linear news space. ABC News took the distribution in house, but they've also cut back on the product line. The point is this is a rapidly declining business, and that's a big part of why it's gone.
 
Weiserguy said:
Hang on a sec. CBS News Radio only brought in $67K in January? (1) January's known to be the worst billing month in the typical year, what were the numbers and year-over-year comparisons for Nov and Dec?; (2) They had a distribution deal, and Audacy just recently took it over and is probably still coming up to speed on selling CBS's hourly; the former Sales & Distribution company (SkyNet? Skyfog? SkyDiddyDiddy? A name so memorable I immediately forgot it) was given notice of cancelation, and does anyone doubt they continued booking such memorable clients as Optima and Big Lou on behalf of CBSNR? Not to mention 1-877-KARS-4-KIDS? No, they probably put away the CBS sales book immediately and went to Pebble Beach.

Not saying the market for national news radio time sales hasn't been cratering. But this entire saga sounds suspiciously hopeless. Just as with Colbert, I'd like to see some more independent journalism before pushing the Believe-Me-On-Faith button.
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We are also only talking about 1 hour and 36 minutes of content being produced daily. (24 x 4 minutes). If they really wanted to stay in business, charge monthly fees to affiliates.
 
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