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CBS Radio News Closure: Effects on KCBS and San Francisco

Weiserguy said:
CBS Radio dies not with a bang, not even with a whimper, but by expiring all alone by themselves. Sad.
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CBS News Radio hasn't been in Denver since late 2023 or early 2024. I'm not sure where in Colorado you could even have found it in recent years.

The image I have of a CBS Radio affiliate is in one of two categories:

* An old-line class III regional with a deep heritage, or
* One of the all-news stations

I think about the stations I grew up with at various times:

* Albuquerque: KGGM ... which hasn't been KGGM since the early 1970s.
* Des Moines: KRNT ... now the home of round-the-clock sports blather
* Kansas City: pick a year; it floated around KCMO, KMBZ, KAYQ (!), and KBEA - when I was there in April, I heard the one-minute CBS News updates on KMBZ
* St. Louis: KMOX, which was in a category by itself
* Chicago (for listening at night): WBBM, still great after all these years - KCBS belongs to this category, too.

You get the picture. If you could find a CBS Radio affiliate in your area, you were in luck. But CBS Radio didn't have nearly the coverage that ABC Radio had.

Yes, I will miss it. I miss KCBS, too - there's nothing like it in Denver, though we could sure use it, and neither commercial nor public outlets have programming that fills in that gap. It's heartening to see KCBS continue to succeed. But I also can't miss observing that the radio network had been in decline for some time. I take no pleasure from that.
 
Mark Roberts said:
As it turns out, then, the last World News Roundup heard on KCBS was yesterday. Wish I had thought to record it.

Here's what happened this morning:

7 am: Steve Scott throws to the World News Roundup.

After the music bed for the legal ID fades out, silence.

Seven seconds pass. Steve says, "No, really, it is 7 o'clock".

Five more seconds of silence pass. Steve says, "All right. Apparently, there is no CBS World News Roundup at the moment. Good morning, I'm Steve Scott, and we will move on with news from around the Bay Area".

And that was it...all local content for the eight minutes usually taken up by the World News Roundup.

Steve handled it very smoothly. I think most listeners tuning in at 7:01 or thereafter wouldn't have noticed that anything had gone wrong.
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Maybe you might get another chance to record the World News Roundup.

I found a list of some affilates online.

Ongoing List: CBS Radio Affiliates Switch to New Networks – NorthPine: Upper Midwest Broadcasting

northpine.com northpine.com
 
Mark Roberts said:
The image I have of a CBS Radio affiliate is in one of two categories:

* An old-line class III regional with a deep heritage, or
* One of the all-news stations
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Pretty much. The only station I can think of that wasn't owned by the former CBS Radio or a small-town independent operation was WSM/Nashville, which aired the 1 minute briefs from CBS News Radio.

TheBigA said:
CBS got outplayed by ABC 20 years ago. This isn't a recent thing. They got fat and lazy.
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ABC wasn't just a more complete offering on the air, but they were a more complete offering on the air. ABC Radio offered a sportscast, a business minute, a health minute, and other short features.

Oh, and a guy named Paul from Chicago who told the Rest of the Story.

ABC Radio was a very compelling offering though the 90s and 2000s. As far as I can remember, back then CBS Radio offered only the news, and simulcasts of certain CBS TV programs like Face the Nation.
 
PTBoardOp93 said:
The only station I can think of that wasn't owned by the former CBS Radio or a small-town independent operation was WSM/Nashville, which aired the 1 minute briefs from CBS News Radio.
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WSM had been a heritage NBC affiliate from the 1920s. Deep relationship that extended to TV. Then NBC sold its radio network, and WSM switched.
 
Someone can correct me as necessary, I’m pretty sure this marks the return of ABC News Radio to Bay Area airwaves since October 2022 when KGO (now KSFO) 810 transitioned away from decades of local news-talk. I starting listening to KGO in its final months of that format in 2022 where I recall ABC TOH running during that time. I also remember hearing KGO in 2018 running Westwood One TOH, likely switching back to ABC upon the former folding in 2020.
 
Mark Roberts said:
As it turns out, then, the last World News Roundup heard on KCBS was yesterday. Wish I had thought to record it.

Here's what happened this morning:

7 am: Steve Scott throws to the World News Roundup.

After the music bed for the legal ID fades out, silence.

Seven seconds pass. Steve says, "No, really, it is 7 o'clock".

Five more seconds of silence pass. Steve says, "All right. Apparently, there is no CBS World News Roundup at the moment. Good morning, I'm Steve Scott, and we will move on with news from around the Bay Area".

And that was it...all local content for the eight minutes usually taken up by the World News Roundup.

Steve handled it very smoothly. I think most listeners tuning in at 7:01 or thereafter wouldn't have noticed that anything had gone wrong.
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Eventually, KCBS did carry the regular CBS update at 8 a.m.

At least the Roundup that was supposed to be played this morning has been archived online.
 
El Zilcho said:
Someone can correct me as necessary, I’m pretty sure this marks the return of ABC News Radio to Bay Area airwaves since October 2022 when KGO (now KSFO) 810 transitioned away from decades of local news-talk. I starting listening to KGO in its final months of that format in 2022 where I recall ABC TOH running during that time. I also remember hearing KGO in 2018 running Westwood One TOH, likely switching back to ABC upon the former folding in 2020.
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I think you are correct. In certain parts of the Bay Area, ABC News could be heard on 1530 KFBK out of Sacramento between then and now, only during evenings and weekends (as KFBK has local hourly news on weekday daytimes).
 
rx8driver2 said:
Maybe you might get another chance to record the World News Roundup.
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Thanks...though my challenge is time zones. I'm in the Mountain zone and not a morning person. If I can't find someone taking a West Coast feed, then that's the end of that.

PTBoardOp93 said:
ABC wasn't just a more complete offering on the air, but they were a more complete offering on the air. ABC Radio offered a sportscast, a business minute, a health minute, and other short features.

Oh, and a guy named Paul from Chicago who told the Rest of the Story.
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Even going way back...if you were an ABC affiliate before 1968, you got rights of first refusal on programs, other than newscasts, from any of the four networks. The Information affiliate I worked for in the 1980s, an ABC affiliate since the NBC Blue era, also picked up Harvey (from Entertainment) and Cosell (from Contemporary) plus various news commentaries from the networks, which we aired in the 6 pm hour.

CBS did have sportscasts on the weekends (Sports Central USA), though that went away in later years. On weekend mornings, KCBS carried sports from the Associated Press all-news network (The News Station) until that shut down.
 
I was looking online found something reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/radio/comments/1tk4a14/any_stations_still_airing_cbs_news_radio_on_the

[–]wyattcoxely 13 points 2 hours ago

Our little station KELY in Ely Nevada is hanging on until the end. We're also carrying the finale "good night and Good Luck" during the last hour. Actually doing a whole block of historic CBS programs beginning at 6pm Pacific/9pm Eastern at kely1230.com



KELY-AM 1230/FM 98.5, Ely, Nevada

Accurate News and Reasonable Views
www.kely1230.com www.kely1230.com
 
I actually managed to record the first hour of ABC News at 3 PM today. I also managed to get the last hour of CBS News at 2.

I used the KPH KiwiSDR.

rx8driver2 said:
I was looking online found something reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/radio/comments/1tk4a14/any_stations_still_airing_cbs_news_radio_on_the

[–]wyattcoxely 13 points 2 hours ago

Our little station KELY in Ely Nevada is hanging on until the end. We're also carrying the finale "good night and Good Luck" during the last hour. Actually doing a whole block of historic CBS programs beginning at 6pm Pacific/9pm Eastern at kely1230.com



KELY-AM 1230/FM 98.5, Ely, Nevada

Accurate News and Reasonable Views
www.kely1230.com www.kely1230.com
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Someone needs to record that!

I would, but I'll be out of town tomorrow.

I see they stream though, so maybe I can set my computer to record the stream automatically.

c
 
Hi everyone. I’ve enjoyed reading your comments. While I can’t speak about the transition from CBS to ABC on KCBS, I can speak about some dear friends who’ve been affected by the shutdown of CBS News Radio.

Michael Wallace and Deborah Rodriguez were colleagues of mine at WCBS. Mike and I coanchored for years; Debbie was a star on 880 before moving on to the network. They are wonderful people with great families, and are outstanding journalists.

I hired Jennifer Keiper at WLS in the early 2000s. She made me look like a genius. Jen is a lovely person and a very conscientious journalist.

I’m so sorry that they’re going through this.

I know it’s fun to discuss the nuts and bolts of the transition. But, please take a moment to remember the people affected by the CBS shutdown. Real people, with real lives.

Thank you.
 
@Steve Scott I actually have been wondering about what will happen to the network announcers. It really is a shame that they have to go through this, because of all the news I've listened to, CBS News was among the best, and I think that's largely thanks to it having a strong roster of good people who do excellent work.

Who knows, maybe some of them will show up at KCBS, as you have?

c
 
Listening to the top of the hour CBS Radio news at 8am on KELY. The host and reporters said goodbye. Mentioned it is ending today. Deborah Rodriguez was the host.

Very sad.

I hope they are able to quickly find work.

Coverage on KELY on the CBS Radio News ending starts at 6pm their time. The only way on how to record for me is to record the sound from my laptop speakers on my phone.
 
rx8driver2 said:
Coverage on KELY on the CBS Radio News ending starts at 6pm their time. The only way on how to record for me is to record the sound from my speakers on my phone.
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I can't find the KELY stream at all. It's not obvious from their website and TuneIn keeps giving me a streaming error.

I've had really bad luck with the WNR. I tried to record it from KGLO in Mason City, Iowa this morning. The stream was working, if bit-starved, but, just as with KCBS yesterday, the feed wasn't there. The KGLO announcer said the WNR feed was "already taken out of our satellite receiver". So they replayed the previous hour's TOH news instead.

Satellite receiver? I know it's been years since I was inside a radio station, but I thought programs these days would be distributed by Internet connections.
 
Steve Scott said:
I hired Jennifer Keiper at WLS in the early 2000s. She made me look like a genius. Jen is a lovely person and a very conscientious journalist.
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As a listener, I remember her well from my time in Chicago in the late 1990s, when she was a traffic reporter for WBBM. Without her, I would have been stuck in traffic on the Northwest Tollway much more often! I was happy to hear her on the network; she's indeed a standout and should find a good place.

Steve Scott said:
I’m so sorry that they’re going through this.

I know it’s fun to discuss the nuts and bolts of the transition. But, please take a moment to remember the people affected by the CBS shutdown. Real people, with real lives.
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That's a good reminder. Radio can be a cruel business. I've experienced that personally. Ultimately, I couldn't deal with it and changed careers. But for folks with long careers in radio news, that option may not be realistic. Much of the criticism that you'll read here is aimed at those who made bad business decisions behind the scenes. Amid various corporate maneuvers, the quality of the product itself has been top-notch. I empathize with some good folks who, through no fault of their own, are about to be out of work. They've handled themselves very professionally these last few weeks. That had to be hard. As listeners, that's what we know.
 


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