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CBS to air colorized 'Dick Van Dyke Show' episodes
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Colorizing should be illegal. Carl Reiner, Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore are still alive. Maybe they can stop this. Maybe a big enough lawsuit will get Moonves fired, which he richly deserves.
It's a gimmick to attract viewers ... and it works.
I doubt any of the lead actors or actresses in those series owned "points" in the production, so they have no basis to object or sue. All they get, unless signed away, might be residuals and the prospect of getting a little more income from those shows is likely quite appealing.
Moonves certainly has the support of the shareholders and directors, and that is all that counts.
do younger viewers even care?
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Show producer Calvada Productions was CArl Reiner, Sheldon Leonard, Dick VAnDyke and DAnny Thomas. While Leonard and Thomas are gone, show creator Reiner, along with VanDyke, likely still have some say. I suspect Reiner must approve. The article lists Carl Reiner as an Executive Producer, along with George Shapiro and current show distributor Paul Brownstein. In my view, the episodes chosen are two of the best.
The aforementioned producers and creators of the show could have shot the show in color. They chose not to. Artistic decisions should be respected, certainly more than money grubbing network managers pandering to those too ignorant to appreciate monochrome.
Note, at the same time, Sheldon Leonard's other production, the Andy Griffith Show shifted from black and white to color. The color episodes don't hold up. Some stations have opted not to run them or even to show them as black and white (to fool viewers). As Roger Ebert once pointed out, black and white gives a film a timeless quality. An old show or movie in color looks old.
Jimmy Stewart returned to Washington testify before both Senate and House committees arguing black and white works should be protected - just as landmark buildings are protected from the wrecking balls brought by greedy real estate developers (not mentioning any names, of course).
Note, at the same time, Sheldon Leonard's other production, the Andy Griffith Show shifted from black and white to color. The color episodes don't hold up. Some stations have opted not to run them or even to show them as black and white (to fool viewers). As Roger Ebert once pointed out, black and white gives a film a timeless quality. An old show or movie in color looks old.
Jimmy Stewart returned to Washington testify before both Senate and House committees arguing black and white works should be protected - just as landmark buildings are protected from the wrecking balls brought by greedy real estate developers (not mentioning any names, of course).
Reiner had planned to go color beginning with Season 3, but was told it would cost too much.
CBS and ABC aired a few shows in color prior to 1965, but not many. IIRC, neither network wanted to give any publicity to RCA, who was the major manufacturer of color TVs prior to that time, plus I think they still had to pay patent royalties to RCA for each color show they aired.
That had as much to do with Don Knotts leaving as going color.
It depends. Some shows that had aired in both B&W and color look better in color. I Dream of Jeannie is one. Gilligan's Island, The Beverly Hillbillies, F Troop, and Lost In Space are others. I thought My Favorite Martian and Bewitched looked better in B&W. The Dick Van Dyke Show is one that wouldn't be the same if colorized.
For shows that started in black & white but went to color, to me there's nothing wrong in colorizing the older episodes. In the case of The Andy Griffith Show, the show going downhill wasn't so much because of going color but Don Knotts leaving like was mentioned earlier, and the storylines not being as good later on.
But to me certain shows like The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, The Addams Family, and the Munsters, are better in black & white because of the eerie feel it gives them.
One area where colorization makes sense to me is to add color back into shows where most prints have faded. I remember reading somewhere that this was done with MASH and possibly other shows in the 90's.
But to me certain shows like The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, The Addams Family, and the Munsters, are better in black & white because of the eerie feel it gives them.
One area where colorization makes sense to me is to add color back into shows where most prints have faded. I remember reading somewhere that this was done with MASH and possibly other shows in the 90's.
Another thing to consider ... CBS is attempting to attract younger viewers who may be turned off by black and white.
Or put another way, pandering to ignorance. What's next? Colorize the Kansas sequences in "The Wizard of Oz?" Or Film Noir classics. Or "A Hard Day's Night." Or "Casablanca." How are younger viewers going to appreciate monochrome if they never get to see it? This is unprincipled money grubbing. Just like NBC trashing classic Broadway musicals.
They are pandering to the viewers that their advertisers want to attract.
It's not money grubbing. It's business.
Why are your posts so angry?
It's not money grubbing. It's business.
Why are your posts so angry?
They did, in the case of The Wizard of Oz and Casablanca, IIRC. I don't recall either of them being a huge success. Ted Turner was big on colorization back in the 1990s, and since he owned the MGM film library and was willing to pay for colorization, it happened.
Anyone younger than 50 who thinks of these shows as classics will appreciate them in black and white. Good luck trying to attract the rest of those young-uns who think of them as "Grandma and Grampa's TV." They care just as much about 1960s shows as I did about Lawrence Welk when I was their age.
Mix an anti-capitalist with a Luddite and that's what you get.
Your TV must have a 'color' control on it. Just turn it off if you don't like color.
I have actually had several people, younger than me, ask if the "old days" were actually black and white in real life. At least one was a college graduate.
You probably thought Welk was boring and so did hoards of youngsters when shown "Oz" and "Casablanca". But it wasn't due to monochrome or color but rather the inability or refusal of the viewer to understand the backstory. People who lived through or understood WWII could relate to Casablanca. To others it was just a convoluted love story and the actors didn't matter because the viewers hadn't seen them before. I personally always thought Oz was a very weird movie and don't consider it a classic in the same vein as the extremely boring Gone With The Wind. Again, if you have a great understanding of our Civil War you may appreciate Wind. Different strokes for different folks.
After lots of prodding I finally convinced my three sons to sit through Casablanca. Only one liked it and became very interested in lots of other older B&W movies. The other two won't watch anything not in color (and lots of CGI).
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