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CC Albany

Nobody said close it down. It needs much improvement. Keep in mind also, that 3 or 4 local people lost their jobs and benefits so that Syracuse could take over. The least they could do is GET IT RIGHT. and YES, right out of the box! They had two weeks to get their stuff together, and they blew it!

As a matter of fact, let's just say I am very close to people who do indeed provide the information for media from the agencies mentioned above. EVERY report I heard coming out of Syracuse was 1)WRONG LOCATION, 2) OLD INFORMATION (like a week old construction), 3)INCIDENTS THAT WERE NOT THERE, never were.

Oddly enough, I was on the roads they mentioned at the time they mentioned them and there were no delays, no crashes, no construction, no backups. The accidents that WERE there, were not mentioned.
The reports from Syracuse were completely different from reports made locally.

I was being generous when I said 90%.

The traffic reports should at least sound like they not coming from "strangers", miles away.
The public is not getting correct information.
 
The traffic being fed to Albany from Syracuse is disgraceful. It's obvious they don't know the roads or the traffic patterns. The 2 reporters they use on WGY are horrendous. The crime in this is that CC Albany is still charging big money for an inferior product. This was something in the works for a couple of months, Syracuse should have been up to speed.

I hear Julie Finer is staying on part time to continue channel 13. I've also heard that Jackie Donovan is going to WKBE as PD and morning show. Hopefully CC will be able to hold onto Finer fulltime. Jackie going to WKBE is a smart move for her and ABC.
 
I am not out to "dis" any of my friends and former co-workers at CC-Albany. I really miss and like so many of them as professionals and people. This traffic thing is not their fault. It was a very poor decision made at corporate level.

Why? We are in Tech Valley, one of the most CONGESTED areas in upstate NY that is growing. This needs to be serviced better and not ignored!!

I admit I do switch between the music channels and WGY in the afternoon, even if I do not always agree with Hannity and Limbaugh because I like politics and the talk keeps me awake in the horrible traffic that has snarled Central Ave., Wolf Road, Fuller Road, Washington Ave, Western Ave. etc.

But...the traffic reports as of the last 2 weeks have been inaccurate and not inclusive. One example---I was stuck on Wolf Road for OVER 45 MINUTES at 3:30pm from the Wolf Road Plaza to the Intersection of Central and Wolf. 45 minutes!!! CC Traffic did not mention this at all!! None of the music stations were running traffic at this time or at least not so that I could tune in easily.

It was a mess!! Had I known this I would have maybe taken a right turn out of Wolf Road plaza, gone down 155 and through Loudinville to avoid it all.

This is not a small upstate city and it is growing MUCH FASTER than Syracuse with the Tech Valley situation. I am surprised CC-Albany did not see that and at least make Albany their "central" HQ.

I wish everyone at CC-Albany well (nor being sarchastic)...I miss many of you!
 
yadayada said:
I wish everyone at CC-Albany well (nor being sarchastic)...I miss many of you!

Did you mean sarcastic? What are they teaching in school these days, here in "Tech Valley"???
 
First off take a pill. Second I've worked in numerous markets with difficult to pronounce names and I had to learn them...BEFORE I went on the air. That's part of the job. Third, I do feel great sorrow for the local people canned. It's happened to many people before, including myself a couple times. Finally, Happy Holidays!
 
Jack Ruby said:
yadayada said:
I wish everyone at CC-Albany well (nor being sarchastic)...I miss many of you!

Did you mean sarcastic? What are they teaching in school these days, here in "Tech Valley"???

LOL!!! LOL!!! YOU TOOK MY BAIT ;)!! You clearly have TOO much time on YOUR hands or else you would not be bothered with spell checking anyone's typos or spelling mistakes on this board. [EDIT]

And, if you are so hell bent on pointing out these errors then why do you ONLY focus on ME and not the numerous others on this and MANY of these boards who occasionally will hit the wrong keystroke? I purposely posted this spelling mistake to see if you or any others would post a reaction and ...you did...ROTFL! ;D I made a bet with a radio friend of mine that someone would post a reaction and it looks like I won! This board is for discussing radio related issues! Beeg deel if I hitt wroong keyys sometymess...LOL! Lighten up! I am too busy to proof every single post ;). Additionally, I have enough confidence in myself and enough radio friends in this market to know that THEY KNOW what I mean even if I hit the wrong key stroke.


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yadayada said:
Why? We are in Tech Valley, one of the most CONGESTED areas in upstate NY that is growing. This needs to be serviced better and not ignored!!

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This is not a small upstate city and it is growing MUCH FASTER than Syracuse with the Tech Valley situation. I am surprised CC-Albany did not see that and at least make Albany their "central" HQ.

I know people in both markets, and though I know more people in Syracuse, I have to agree with you 100%. In this battle, Syracuse should have lost the jobs to Albany. Everyone I know who has lived elsewhere before coming to Syracuse always jokes about the fact that stations even HAVE traffic reports, because there are barely ever any major problems. Rush hour is at the same time every day, and the usual bottlenecks are always the same. When the Carrier Dome or the State Fair is done with a big game or concert, there are backups as the crowd leaves the venue. It's mostly common sense, the worst delays are usually no more than 10 minutes, and if you've lived in Syracuse for more than 2 weeks, you know how to easily avoid said bottlenecks.

The driving is more intense and the traffic is way more active in Albany. Even someone who's completely unfamiliar with BOTH cities will immediately see this the moment they get off the Thruway. Even though Exit 36 in Syracuse (I-81) is way too cramped to handle the volume of traffic at busy times, any backups there are still nothing compared to the craziness at Exit 24 in Albany. Traffic around the Carousel Mall is nothing compared to Crossgates traffic (again, common sense, if it's the month of December, it's gonna be congested near the mall), and the parking situations for the Carrier Dome and the State Fair, while not perfect, are still much easier to manage than trying to get out after an event at the Pepsi Arena. Last but not least, Freebie 90 and 787 are considerably busier than 81 and 690.

I have a feeling CC went with Syracuse because it's already doing traffic for Rochester, Binghamton, Utica (yes, Utica) and a few other places. The staff is small, and it relies entirely on police scanners and DOT/Thruway websites to get the info. They're probably so busy keeping track of several markets that the voicetracks aren't being sent early enough, so the systems wind up airing the reports from either the same hour yesterday or the week before (depending on how they're set up). Or, they're recording the reports too early, which is just as bad. Voicing a 3:00PM report at 2:15 is NO way to run a reputable operation. Sadly, folks are told to err on the side of recording/sending voicetracks early so they don't miss their air slots in the other cities. I certainly wouldn't want to be in their position, and they probably aren't too pleased with the extra work either, but they probably figure it's better than being fired. Either way, it's a poor move on CC's part.

Another way of looking at it... WSYR never had weekend traffic. WGY did... they didn't do it to be frivolous, but because Albany needs weekend traffic reports.

If I were in charge, I'd have 2 traffic people working 8-hour shifts (5a-1p / 1-9p) for Syracuse, Albany and Rochester. These markets each deserve their own in-house people doing LIVE traffic, especially considering WSYR, WGY and WHEN have such strong heritages and they are the dominant news/talkers in their markets. Smaller markets like Utica and Binghamton (which are being sold off anyway) should either eliminate traffic completely, or have one person doing the reports for both cities. Much easier to get away with out-of-town traffic in markets that don't really have traffic to begin with. Besides, CC doesn't have a news/talker in Utica (or Binghamton, I believe) so there's no need for live, detailed traffic. You can get away with slightly stale, generalized traffic on music stations where too much talk is a sin to begin with.

Unfortunately, traffic is just a small part of the equation. If someone's listening primarily for the TOH news or for the talk shows, there's not much chance they'll flip the station JUST during traffic to hear it on someone else's air. But, I can see where people who listen primarily for the traffic, who could then wind up "sticking around" for another quarter-hour or two afterwards, would be lost to other stations where the traffic reports are more accurate. Still, the number of listeners who tune out just because of traffic probably isn't significant enough for CC to notice. Even if it was, the local management is probably too fearful to call upper management on a mistake like that. How many people have the balls of steel it takes to tell a Regional Vice President he/she made a bad move? Probably not many, unless they had a huge stack of listener e-mails and letters (and letters to the editor of local papers) to back them up.
 
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