CC Greensboro manager update......

[Zsmith]

Z Man here.... ;D As you all know I'm just back from a BIG fishing trip. Didn't catch CRAP but did get the low down from a friend of mine on some Sales management changes at CC GSO.... OUCH the lack of brain power... Anyway.... while at the Starbuckssssssss in Raleigh the details went as are u ready..... CC managers hired for WMAG a sales manager a lady that hasen't sold radio.... plus advanced a poor seller to be in charge of the NTR and internet sales. WOW.... Look for the stock prices to fall further with these kinda hires.

MOCCCCA plzzzzzzzzzze!!

Z Man

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[chchcharlie]

Hey, Z...

Before you slander someone or an entire organization on this board you need to check your facts first. A simple google of the name of the new WMAG Sales Manager would have shown you the following...

Martha Spillane GSM, Time Warner Cable Adcast

Spillane is about to celebrate her ten-year anniversary working for Adcast. She has worked in radio, newspaper, broadcast television as well as an ad agency. Before joining Time Warner Adcast, she was an account exec for radio station WQMG-FM in Greensboro. She has a B.A. from the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill's School of Radio, Television and Motion Pictures.

I don't know the new WMAG Sales Manager or know if she is actually capable of being a good sales manager, but her background would indicate that she might have the ability to do the job.

Are your observations of the new NTR/Internet Sales Manager equally as slanderous? Do you even know who this person is or are you just repeating gossip?

And your constant references to coffee are tiresome.

 

[BIG APE]

I don't see anything about her being named Sales Manager of Any Radio Station and actually I didn't see anything slanderous about Z's Post. You are evidently new at "Blogs" because if something like that upsets you, Ya got a long row to hoe..hoe..is that spelled right..Naw starts witha W don't it.

But then again, I really don't care if they hire Russ Spooner as Sales Mgr.

Ta Ta .. BIG APE
Weather is Beautiful in Cocoa Bch Tonight!

 

[chchcharlie]

I don't see anything about her being named Sales Manager of Any Radio Station and actually I didn't see anything slanderous about Z's Post. You are evidently new at "Blogs" because if something like that upsets you, Ya got a long row to hoe..hoe..is that spelled right..Naw starts witha W don't it.

But then again, I really don't care if they hire Russ Spooner as Sales Mgr.

Ta Ta .. BIG APE
Weather is Beautiful in Cocoa Bch Tonight!

OK, I'll type slow so you can understand it.

The new sales managers name at WMAG is Martha Spillane. If you google her name, you will find the short news item about her when she obviously used to be the GSM of TWC Adcast. As the news article points out, she not only sold TV and newspaper, but also radio, which is a direct contradiction of what Z had said about her.

You also should not make assumptions about people you know nothing about. You have no idea whether or not I'm "New" at blogs. And BTW. This board is not a blog.

 

[dittohead1]

and you should get a clue on what the legal definition of slander is,[EDIT]




[namecalling]

 

[CCAlumni]

Hey Charlie...welcome to the blog. Now the truth. Martha was hired by her long time friend Jan Smith. Martha has been vacationing in cable sales for ten years. Martha is about to get the wake-up call of a lifetime. She has no idea what she's walking into. Radio has changed a lot since Martha sold at WQMG in the early 90's.

Thanks for the etiquette lessons but we'll slander a company that has ruined the radio industry as often as we please. Unfortunately for poor Martha her cable trades haven't included the truth about Clear Channel. And it only gets worse from here now that the Mays boys have decided to sell out. Really.

I do agree with you about the coffee references though.

 

[CCX1]

Yup! The rude awakening is on the way! :-*

 

[chchcharlie]

and you should get a clue on what the legal definition of slander is, [EDIT]

Slander and libel
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In law, defamation is a right of action for communicating statements that may harm an individual's reputation or character. The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and libel (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast), each of which gives a common law right of action.

"Defamation" is the general term used internationally, and is used in this article where it is not necessary to distinguish between "slander" and "libel". Libel and slander both require publication. The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. If it is published in more durable form, for example in written words, film, compact disc and the like, then it is considered libel.

There ya go...Now who you callin' [EDIT]?


[namecalling]

 

[dittohead1]

ooh, wikipedia...good source

i know many lawyers who use wikipedia as source material in court.

where did you get your law degree: the university of [EDIT]?



[offensive]

 

[chchcharlie]

Thanks for the etiquette lessons but we'll slander a company that has ruined the radio industry as often as we please.

While I don't agree with everything that Clear Channel has done, this obsession with how CC has "ruined" the radio industry is just rediculous. How many radio stations are there in NC? Somewhere between 300 and 325? How many does CC operate in NC? Isn't it about 14? What is that, 4% of the stations in NC are operated by CC? And I dare say that the ratios are probably very similar in most states.

Are you really serious that you believe the operation of 14 radio stations in NC can ruin an entire industry? Aren't the other 300 odd stations in NC free to run their business as they see fit? It would seem to me that if you want to blame the ruin of the industry on something you would look at the other 96% of the business.

Just trying to put things in perspective.

 

[Zsmith]

Regarding CC and the radio industry. They sure have inpacted the entire industry. Charlie, Man.... they own over 1,000 stations in big markets CC has been in bed with Wall Street which has totally taken them (CC) away of how radio was created. Know anything about banking??? Wall Street only understands tangable things.... not RADIO!!! Wall Street has make CC recreate radio..... for the all mighty stock price!!!

Less is more... Still a cluster of short hyper sounding commercials.... Slashed sales commission at all station creating the loss of vets and reducing the cash flow in lots of markets... Canned programing... all the stations sound the same for the most part.. All the personality has been reduced on the stations taking away the local appeal... News departments slashed to the bone or done away with all together. Listen when there is a local news issue in you rlocal community they are playing music while the other staions are doing thier local service... and reporting....

Just a few points..... Wonder why the sudded offer to sell???? : : : The predd releace said something to te effect of "Getting the stock price up".. Go figure Maybe they see the writing on the wall my friend....

Charlie you might want to get out and smell some fresh java....


Z man

;D ;D ;D

 

[CCAlumni]

Charlie Charlie Charlie....Ask any manager competing with Clear Channel anywhere...anywhere...and ask about their rate integrity. Ask about their "live" air staffs. Ask about how Clear Channel always takes aim at the number one station..if it isn't theirs...takes it down then collapses rates in the markets. Look at Charlotte, Greensboro and Raleigh (worst of them all in N.C.) and see what has happened to those markets since Clear Channel rolled up four or more stations. Then cross the state line into Charleston, Columbia, Richmond, Washington, etc. It's all the same. Z-man may be all caffed up but he's dead on right.

And Charlie...congratulate yourself if you did not ride Clear Channel stock all the way down from its $100 high to its current price in the low 30's. Remind again why this is such a well-run company?

 

[johnqdoe]

I think the point Charlie's making here is that it's not just CC. I've heard FAR worse horror storries coming out of Cumulus and others. CC gets the bad rap for ALLLLL of "corporate radio". Hell, even some of the "local" owners are prettttttttttty hard to work for I hear.

 

[BIG APE]

;D Clear Channel still Sucks...Check the website.. There is that slander.. You can't slander the truth, Charlie, Clear Channel Corporate Guru..

 

[MaskMan]

Poor Charlie...he was born with a CC spoon in his mouth! Don't think Charlie ever knew radio prior to CC. That can't give you much of a perspective. Those of us who've seen the before and after know all too well what Clear Channel spawned.

 

[CCAlumni]

Charlie is actually textbook CC clone. Chip on his shoulder, thinks he's smarter than everyone else and gets defensive at the first sign of criticism. He sounds like he went to the Randy Michaels/Tom Owens/Gabe Hobbs school of punk. Yet another reason their grand scheme never worked. And Charlie...it really doesn't work.

 

[CCX1]

Add cutting and running at the first sign of strong opposition to your textbook CC clone attributes. Where are you Charlie??? We want to continue talking about CC and all the wonderful things it's done for radio! :-*

 

[chchcharlie]

Add cutting and running at the first sign of strong opposition to your textbook CC clone attributes. Where are you Charlie??? We want to continue talking about CC and all the wonderful things it's done for radio! :-*

My my...I get talked about when I'm away. No, I haven't cut and run. Had to go out town on Friday, didn't get back until late and been shopping for Christmas trees today.

So much to reply to.

I'll be answering some of the comments off and on today in between working from home and taking care of some of the personal things at home today.

The first thing I will answer is no, I don't just have CC experience in my background. As if that means anything anyway.

 

[chchcharlie]

Charlie Charlie Charlie....Ask any manager competing with Clear Channel anywhere...anywhere...and ask about their rate integrity. Ask about their "live" air staffs. Ask about how Clear Channel always takes aim at the number one station..if it isn't theirs...takes it down then collapses rates in the markets. Look at Charlotte, Greensboro and Raleigh (worst of them all in N.C.) and see what has happened to those markets since Clear Channel rolled up four or more stations. Then cross the state line into Charleston, Columbia, Richmond, Washington, etc. It's all the same. Z-man may be all caffed up but he's dead on right.

And Charlie...congratulate yourself if you did not ride Clear Channel stock all the way down from its $100 high to its current price in the low 30's. Remind again why this is such a well-run company?

I never said that CC was a well run company. I think they have made some very poor decisions. But they have made some good ones also. What I have said, is that CC is not the source of all evil in broadcasting. There are more radio stations not owned by CC than are owned by CC. The 14 owned by CC in NC cannot dictate to the other 300+ how to operate their business.

Your comments seem to indicate that you think CC operated radio stations are very poorly run stations. And then you imply that they can take the audience away from the #1 station in the market owned by the competition at will. Both statements can't be true.

You also imply that they drive the advertising rates down in the market. But if CC stations are poorly run, don't carry any local programming which everyone says is what the audience really wants to listen to, and don't talk about the local issues in the community, how could they have any clout when it comes to driving down advertising rates?

In other words, how can a poorly operated business hurt a well run business? It would seem to me that having CC in a market would only help the competition.

 

[chchcharlie]

Regarding CC and the radio industry. They sure have inpacted the entire industry. Charlie, Man.... they own over 1,000 stations in big markets CC has been in bed with Wall Street which has totally taken them (CC) away of how radio was created. Know anything about banking??? Wall Street only understands tangable things.... not RADIO!!! Wall Street has make CC recreate radio..... for the all mighty stock price!!!

Less is more... Still a cluster of short hyper sounding commercials.... Slashed sales commission at all station creating the loss of vets and reducing the cash flow in lots of markets... Canned programing... all the stations sound the same for the most part.. All the personality has been reduced on the stations taking away the local appeal... News departments slashed to the bone or done away with all together. Listen when there is a local news issue in you rlocal community they are playing music while the other staions are doing thier local service... and reporting....

Just a few points..... Wonder why the sudded offer to sell???? : : : The predd releace said something to te effect of "Getting the stock price up".. Go figure Maybe they see the writing on the wall my friend....

Charlie you might want to get out and smell some fresh java....


Z man

;D ;D ;D

CC is not the only publicly traded radio company. But I agree. Wall Street has not been good for radio in general or CC in particular. With CC on the verge of going private it remains to be seen whether or not they start to operate radio stations in a way that both builds the audience and makes them profitable. I think CC wants to get away from having to operate their business under wall street guidance, which prevents you from being able to build for the long term.