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CC puts Power back this morning!

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Shortly after 8A and following a few minutes of dead air the Power morning show was put back in mid sentance. If this was a stunt,what was the point as they they now informed the market that there is a new country station. Was this a panic move based on letters to the editor that already started? Did corporate order the move back after reading the trade reports this morning? Is Power back only to be taken away again? THAT would not be smart at this point.
This is now officially bizarre.
 
It's Syracuse where brains never really thaw out. The only good stuff I remember from Syracuse was the Park St.Deli. It's probably gone. However, it is more politically aware than Texas. WHEN 620 was a good early AC station and WNDR and WOLF rocked even as one slid of the road. And the winters were worse.
 
O.K. Now that was offficially the dumbest move in Syracuse radio (history). As difficult as that Urban audience is to get and hold to blow it off just to flank country competition and flip it back after just two days. Idiotic! It was clearly a personal attack on behalf of CC Syracuse upper management against Fox/ Furco! Signal abuse! Can CC managers seriously think this was a good idea of did they find out about the moronic move made at the local level and order a return to normal this morning at 8am?

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I agree with you ROCKTHEMIC this time. It is a slap in the face to the Power listeners. I understand they were in panic mode. But the funny thing is that it didnt scare anyone. All the boards and im sure the FoxFur management knew this was a stunt. So all it did was piss off the African American Community and make Clear Channel Look STUPID!
And most important, they told the people of CNY..."HAY Look their is a New Country station to the right of B". Now how dumb is that. Great Job Joel, Rich and Jasson!

Now talk among yourselves.
 
Does make you wonder who is minding the shop..when you make a bone headed move like that....great for WOLF though...got them listeners on both stations they would have to pay to get (advertise) without CC's help...lol..106's audience might have even checked out Movin...!! What happened to the good ole days when you just slapped your stations sticker on the competitors station van..lol..
 
This whole thing was stupid and childish on the part of CC. The independent Marlin Broadcasting owned WCCC-FM in Hartford did something similar back in 2002. CC blew up heritage WHCN 105.9 (originally hard rock then morphed into Classic Rock) and flipped it to Rock AC as The River 105.9 FM. In response WCCC-FM for several hours began playing mellow sounding rock music without their DJs. They had liners "We blew up your favorite radio station Just For You. 106.9 The Lake." and then you'd hear their DJs laughing in the background. There was also "lake" sound effects in the background. They went back to their regular 106.9 The Rock format after a few hours. Stupid and childish.
 
Just days ago, I was giving CC credit for a reasonably well-thought, damn-near smart maneuver protecting their queen "B" by flipping Urban Power to New/Young Country in order to muddy the water against Fox/Fur's Wolf. And what happens? Those CC dopes do an "it was all a big joke" about-face. The brain trust at Clear Channel Syracuse is clearly brain dead.

Hey Clueless Channel, this one's for you, as Bugs used to say, "What a ma-roon."

For the stooge who called the move, the rant from Joel Cairo in The Maltese Falcon, "You... you imbecile. You bloated idiot. You stupid, fat-head you..."

And Clear Channel's probable response to posters who may have given them credit as well as all the Power listeners that it blew off in this stunt? From Animal House, "Hey, you f**ked up, you trusted us!"
 
Pathetic. A pathetic move. They are nervous. and you should never let them see you sweat. Power was to connect to the African-American community. Would they ever abandon that ship?
 
There were radio conglomerates in the '30's that were broken up in the early '40's. There was a reason they were broken up and a very good one at that which you can now clearly see. Nuff said!
 
WPHR warrants and deserves local black ownership. Clear Channel should offer and finance same. They have the resources and owe it to the community. Time to settle up!
 
A lot of careless mistakes at Clear Channel Syracuse this year. And Joel Delmonico backtracking on Reith about Power is an insult to anyone with half a brain. I saw some Clear Channel employees at the fair and it sounds like people are slowly losing their faith in how things are run in Syracuse. Maybe it's time for a change of guard. Should the Silver Fox step down? Recession my @#$!@.
 
petercavanaugh said:
WPHR warrants and deserves local black ownership. Clear Channel should offer and finance same. They have the resources and owe it to the community. Time to settle up!
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Much as I find Clear Channel national despicable, I'd be hard pressed to agree that the company is obligated to spin WPHR to a local black ownership group. Yes, the FCC has mandated such transactions over the years in rare cases where the original licensee has committed an egregious offense and there have been certain monetary considerations given to companies that have sold stations to companies comprised of men and women of color.

Making idiotic decisions regarding format flips, stunts and changes is hardly an egregious offense. It could be argued that CC is more guilty of abusing the public trust by virtue (or lack of such) of voice-tracking and neglecting the communities which its stations are licensed to serve 24-7.

Perhaps an argument could be made that the frequency on which WPHR operates would be better utilized by a local group, regardless of color or ethnic makeup, but even here, the rules and precedent require specific documentation of the licensee's abject neglect of the rules, regulations and laws governing broadcasting and ownership.

Damn. Can't believe I offered a reasonably cogent argument on behalf of Clear Channel ownership. Jesuit education coming back to haunt me.
 
Power was put on the air and it made CC a friend to the black community. This was a big ego trip for GM. Now they use it as a Stunt Station. Nice going. Wolf is shaking in their boots because of the big bad CC. NOT!
 
Mike Sheridan said:
There were radio conglomerates in the '30's that were broken up in the early '40's. There was a reason they were broken up and a very good one at that which you can now clearly see. Nuff said!
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There were no "radio conglomerates," as you say in the 30s, and the only forced divestiture that took place in the 40s was NBC Blue from NBC. That was a network, not a conglomerate. As I recall, NBC at the time owned maybe 4 radio stations. The reason was that together they controlled more than 50% of the network business. NO ONE owns that percentage today. No one even comes close. If any one did, they would get broken up. The Telecom Act of 1996 has provisions that are designed to prevent anti-trust and monopoly from taking place, and the FCC reinforced those provisions in 2002.

I'd suggest you read the interesting discussions that took place when ABC set up their 4 demographic radio networks in the 60s. At the time, there were laws that prevented this from happening, based on the NBC Blue decision. Yet ultimately ABC was allowed to set up their four networks, and even expanded it to 6 by the 70s.
 
TheBigA said:
Mike Sheridan said:
There were radio conglomerates in the '30's that were broken up in the early '40's. There was a reason they were broken up and a very good one at that which you can now clearly see. Nuff said!
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There were no "radio conglomerates," as you say in the 30s, and the only forced divestiture that took place in the 40s was NBC Blue from NBC. That was a network, not a conglomerate. As I recall, NBC at the time owned maybe 4 radio stations. The reason was that together they controlled more than 50% of the network business. NO ONE owns that percentage today. No one even comes close. If any one did, they would get broken up. The Telecom Act of 1996 has provisions that are designed to prevent anti-trust and monopoly from taking place, and the FCC reinforced those provisions in 2002.

I'd suggest you read the interesting discussions that took place when ABC set up their 4 demographic radio networks in the 60s. At the time, there were laws that prevented this from happening, based on the NBC Blue decision. Yet ultimately ABC was allowed to set up their four networks, and even expanded it to 6 by the 70s.
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Try The BBC that's the Buffalo Broadcasting Company which owned WGR 550, WBEN 930 and WKBW 1520 not to mention a smaller stations that slips my mind right now. This was broken up and now these 3 stations are back under common ownership.
 
Element9 said:
It could be argued that CC is more guilty of abusing the public trust by virtue (or lack of such) of voice-tracking and neglecting the communities which its stations are licensed to serve 24-7.
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Many citizens groups have attempted to make that argument, and they have failed. Even members of Congress have made the attempt. There are no laws against voice-tracking, and there are no requirements regarding the forms of service a station must provide to its COL. They don't have to do news, traffic, or public affairs. Truthfully, they don't have to be on the air 24/7. Using voice-tracking is no more of an abuse of the public's trust than WKFM's attempts to use their automation to sound live & local in the 1970s.

One could say the government of the US has abused its public trust in their management of the peoples airwaves, particularly over the last 40 years. In particular, they have failed to prevent pirates from co-opting the public airwaves in hundreds of documented cases. They have failed to prevent interference between licensed and unlicensed operators. They have, in my opinion, over licensed the spectrum and squandered the public's resources. So I think a better case would be against the Congress than any private radio broadcaster.

The part I find most ridiculous is the government does away with all the rules and regulations, and citizens blames the broadcasters. Why not blame the people who caused the problem to happen in the first place? The government.
 
Mike Sheridan said:
Try The BBC that's the Buffalo Broadcasting Company which owned WGR 550, WBEN 930 and WKBW 1520 not to mention a smaller stations that slips my mind right now. This was broken up and now these 3 stations are back under common ownership.
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Nope. BBC only owned WGR and WKBW. WBEN was owned by the Buffalo Evening News in the 30s, thus the name.

I'd suggest there were a lot fewer radio stations on the air when duopolies were outlawed. Not the case today.
 
Now that the "brain trust" in Syracuse has already made one REALLY big mistake, are there more to follow? Back to the earlier question: in September 2010,what will the new WOLF have 12+? What will B104 have?
 
My guess the first book they will get like a 2 share. But they will build fast maybe a 5 share in a year and maybe a 7 share in a few years.
 
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