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CC/WOR CLEANS HOUSE!

I wonder if John R. Gambling will get replaced by a morning show that although based at WOR, will eventually be syndicated to all of Clear Channel's talk stations by sister company Premiere Networks.

This way, several dozen local morning shows would be eliminated and Clear Channel would save a lo9t of money.

But on the other hand, this would mean that near all CC-owned talk stations would be all-syndication, at least during the week.
 
wadio said:
I guess outsourcing of the news department mean a demotion for Joe Bartlett. No news department means no need for a News Director. And Dave Spencer is one of the last of the NY news readers with that commanding "New York Radio" presence ... I hope he lands on his feet before long.
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Cheap Channel outsourced news for its New Haven outlet and I really can't say I've heard local news the few times I listened to it. Face it, it's all a numbers game and as long as deregulation allows these groups to keep buying up radio properties they're all going to be network programmed jukeboxes with very little worth listening to.

I too hope Dave Spencer lands a good gig. I've been listening to him as far back as the WOR-FM days, as in pre-99X.
 
Bill DeFelice said:
it's all a numbers game and as long as deregulation allows these groups to keep buying up radio properties they're all going to be network programmed jukeboxes with very little worth listening to.
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The biggest customers for network programming are NOT stations owned by CC, but rather smaller, locally owned stations. It's a myth that local owners are more likely to hire local staff than non-local owners.
 
"Wasn't Rush Limbaugh's show a local program on WABC-770 for a year or two before it went national??"

Yes, it was. For a year or two, Limbaugh did 10 AM-Noon on WABC, then did his national show 12-3, which WABC did NOT carry. At that time, Lynn Samuels was on 12-2, and Bob Grant started at 2. If I remember correctly, John Mainielli was the PD then and didn't believe a national show would go over in New York. So, to justify Limbaugh using WABC's studios, Rush had to do a local show. Eventually, of course, JM was convinced and WABC started carrying Limbaugh 12-3 and tried several replacements 9-12 -- there was Joy Behar for a while, Prager and Ed Koch, and probably a few others I've forgotten.
And to address what Qwerty mentioned about Grant and Hannity, he is right again. There's no doubt WOR's image as the home of advice and financial shows hurt Grant when he moved there in 1996 after being fired by ABC/Disney. Still, for the first couple of years, Grant still won the timeslot. Hannity did eventually win it, but right up to the end, Grant's numbers were strong and only slightly behind Hannity -- even with a weaker WOR line-up around him. But while on WABC, Grant rolled over WOR in his timeslot. And it wasn't as though WOR conceded the slot. Grant had two good competitors -- Gene Burns and Jay Severin (he was a bit calmer then than in his recent Boston days). Grant buried them both. In fact, as far away as this market -- NEPA -- Grant was usually coming in around number 12, 12-plus, and even higher in older demos. No one talk show host coming from just one station has ever had the dominance Bob Grant did at his peak.
 
Turnpike Tuner said:
Just saw on another forum that Gambling was let go, bumper music and all....
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Doubtful. It's been widely reported (NY Daily News, for example) that his show is staying.
 
Paterson was on Curtis Sliwa's show this morning. They rambled for two minutes about the lack of local programming in NYC, especially WABC.
 
rbrown said:
Paterson was on Curtis Sliwa's show this morning. They rambled for two minutes about the lack of local programming in NYC, especially WABC.
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While he was there, he could have added Sliwa's station.
 
I'm not saying Hannity was better than Grant, but Grant always had good ratings. If someone else had been on in Hannity's spot, they may not have been able to beat Grant, which would have made WABC a smaller station. In the 1990's WABC was bigger than it is today, but WOR was also bigger then too.
 
I believe listeners are creatures of habit. They'll pick a favorite station based on some program(s) they like and then will suffer through all the rest year after year.

Some time ago WABC, probably due largely to Rush's popularity in his early years, gained a following about double that of WOR. Since then both stations have shed significant listeners, but that 2:1 ratio has held despite significant tweaks in programming, especially on WOR.

It will be interesting to see what happens now because, if all predictions are true, it means a major upheaval in programming and that might be enough to dislodge listeners from that spot on the dial to which they've been glued for so long.
 
qwerty809 said:
last night i heard Andy Dean in the 8 oclock hour and Ground Zero radio later at 10 oclock. Both are Premiere shows
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Andy Dean has something going for him in terms of hoodwinking advertisers: he sounds like a teenager. He says cool stuff like, "Hey, man, thanks for calling," but other than that he just spouts the same talking points as everyone else with no real depth behind it. So Clear Channel can talk demos to advertisers and convince them that this young dude with "resonate" with their customers. What a scam.

Jerry Doyle is an interesting guy with lots of life experience and a great sense of humor. J.D Hayworth, who I hadn't heard until this morning, seems to have the life experience and knowledge of history to do a compelling show. Why would anyone listen to Andy Dean when there are guys like that around? Oh, because CC puts him out there. It's called "pandering."
 
I sampled Andy Dean tonight... so that's what all the hype is about??

Again, another completely devoid of personality "personality". He should go back and listen to old airchecks of Bob Grant and learn how to be compelling on the air.
 
My heart goes out to all those who lost their jobs on WOR. I know what it's like. When I was working in sales at WMCA in 1989, Salem took over, cleaned house and turned the station religious. Barry Gray moved over to WOR and Barry Farber ended up at WABC.


Dave Spenser has been around for over 25 years, including WMCA and WNEW-AM. And I'm very much sure he'll be heard in the future within a short peroid of time.


Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy
 
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