I am putting together a low cost studios. We are currently looking for CD players. Does the CD player have to have something special so it can fire from the board? Or can we use any CD player? Any recommendations?
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CD players that fire from board
- Thread starter BlueTights
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BlueTights said:
Why CD players? Why not just put everything on a computer hard-drive? This is the standard nowdays.
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Robert Bass said:
Yeah ok that's great. :
Anyway...we use a Sony CD player that seems pretty standard, and it has a remote start from the board. I guess it has to have a way to wire it into the board, but that should be fairly simple for the engineer. Check bswusa.com or another radio gear website for CD players that are rack mountable (although ours are not mounted, they are inside a cabinet). They always seem to have decent prices.Actually, everything will be on the computer. The cd players are for backup. Which sony CD players do you have? We will be having an engineer come in and put together our studio, but I have to purchase all the equipment first. So I want to make sure to get the right equipment.
BlueTights said:
As the previous post suggested, check www.bswusa.com. They have CD players that will do what you need.
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Here's what we use--the Denon DN-C615. They'll work well for you. They have a remote start jack, which allows them to be fired by a closure on the board..
About $300 each
www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=1504&CatID=1&SubCatID=1
Good luck!
About $300 each
www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=1504&CatID=1&SubCatID=1
Good luck!
surfdude said:
I use the Stanton Dual CD player for over 3 years and it has not skpped a beat... I paid less than $180 for mine from Musician Warehouse... great item....
Check it out here...
http://home.earthlink.net/~nrios/nikon/studio1.jpg
On the lower left of the picture...
By the way... Great website Surfside... and it's got great sound and programming... Kudos to you and your staff.
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Actually, anyone with some sort of electronics background could make any CD player fire from the board.
At the AM I engineered we had Technics P1200's which always acted up (they had a DIN connector on the back for wired remote control. In a pinch, a trade with a local hi-fi store had us a handful of Technics consumer-grade player. Removing the covers and running wires to the play switch contacts was all that I needed to wire them for remote start. Mind you, the board gave me a relay contact closure with is ideal. If your console gives you a TTL signal output you'll probably have to drive a relay to perform the same sort of thing, but it's certainly reasonable as far as the ease of modifications go.
At the AM I engineered we had Technics P1200's which always acted up (they had a DIN connector on the back for wired remote control. In a pinch, a trade with a local hi-fi store had us a handful of Technics consumer-grade player. Removing the covers and running wires to the play switch contacts was all that I needed to wire them for remote start. Mind you, the board gave me a relay contact closure with is ideal. If your console gives you a TTL signal output you'll probably have to drive a relay to perform the same sort of thing, but it's certainly reasonable as far as the ease of modifications go.
Yes in some cases you can modify a consumer deck as you described, but there are times when that doesn't work and ends up frying the CD player. You're also left with a wire literally hanging out someplace, unless you take the time to solder in some sort of jack to the back of the CD player.
But the primary concerns are grounding and wear and tear issues. Many consumer decks are not designed to withstand the abuse jocks will dish out, nor are they designed for 24 / 7 use. You'd probably end up replacing them every few months.
I think it's wise to buy CD players designed for broadcast applications.
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But the primary concerns are grounding and wear and tear issues. Many consumer decks are not designed to withstand the abuse jocks will dish out, nor are they designed for 24 / 7 use. You'd probably end up replacing them every few months.
I think it's wise to buy CD players designed for broadcast applications.
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BlueTights said:
Years ago I worked for an AM/FM combo that wouldn't buy anything but consumer grade CD Players. With a little time and a meter I found the contacts on the back on the front pannel circuit board, soldered a piece of 8451 onto it, and to make it able for quick change, drilled a hole in the back pannel and put an RCA pannel jack on it, then put an RCA plug on the remote wiring. It actually worked pretty darn well (start only). If memory recalls they were JVC XLV series players.
If you look back through the old threads, there's one on consumer CD players. I think consensus was, the cost is a wash, broadcast vs wearing out home units and throwing them away. Consensus was, use a relay to go across the START button, either in the console or in the machine.
littlejohn said:
Problem there is, you're filling up the landfills.
This throw away craze has gotten out of hand.
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It has, courtesy probably of the chinese. But, Denon no longer sells the good machines.... their rackmount series has a plastic and nylon deck assembly like the $30 units. Throwaway killed the market for decent players. Most folks today use thwe machines to rip CDs to a storage system, so the remote start is merely a convenience, it's easy enought to edit the start point in the file. And if you get a machine which has a TOSLINK or SPDIF out, you don't have to contend with a shaky audio section either.
I suppose we could mark all the CDs with green edges, and use oxygen free wire to connect the deck to the outbaord D/A converter, but it gets expensive.
I suppose we could mark all the CDs with green edges, and use oxygen free wire to connect the deck to the outbaord D/A converter, but it gets expensive.
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OnTheAir123
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DO NOT use consumer decks even though almost all of them can be modified for remote start. They just do NOT hold up over time in broadcast use.
I like the Denon DNC635. Heavy Duty construction, MP3 playback, remote port for remote start, cue to music, pitch control, adjustable XLR Outputs, etc.... Great Units.
http://www.bswusa.com/proditem.asp?item=DNC635
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I like the Denon DNC635. Heavy Duty construction, MP3 playback, remote port for remote start, cue to music, pitch control, adjustable XLR Outputs, etc.... Great Units.
http://www.bswusa.com/proditem.asp?item=DNC635
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I like the Denon DNC635 as well. It is an excellent deck. If you can't afford the Denon DNC635, take a look at the "little brother" to that deck--the Denon DNC615. It has remote start and has held up for us.
That said, the Denon DNC635 is a great unit.
That said, the Denon DNC635 is a great unit.
Don't consumer decks have very inconsistent spin-up times?
I agree about not using consumer decks but at the time I had an owner that thought it was cheeper to buy several of those vs broadcast decks. I think he must have had a trade deal set up with the local consumer electronics store.
Those XLV decks that I used actually held up pretty well. I even got to the point of being able to replace the laser and tweek them up. Not as well as a broadcast deck but when in Rome.................................
I adefinately learned alot about them.
Those XLV decks that I used actually held up pretty well. I even got to the point of being able to replace the laser and tweek them up. Not as well as a broadcast deck but when in Rome.................................
I adefinately learned alot about them.
Another thing to consider. When you buy a consumer deck and modify it for wired remote start, you automat4ically void the warranty.
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