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CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
- Thread starter jhc2010
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jhc2010 said:
It's about time
Now time to stop saying CD101 @ 102.5 and just call it CD102.5.My guess we'll see Classical on 101.1 by the New Year.
If that is the case, then the repeating message loop that is supposed to appear on 101.1, should
be airing at anytime now to tell 101.1 listeners where they can find WWCD.
Older article on the 101.1 message loop:
http://www.allbusiness.com/humanities-social-science/visual-performing-arts-music/15197584-1.html
Maybe the message loop will appear on December 13 and tOSU will take over the 101.1 frequency
after January 1 with Classical music?
I thought this wouldn't happen until after January 1, 2011.. SURPRISE!!!
BTW, Is Tim Feran still working at the Columbus Dispatch? His email is bouncing back.
I was hoping he would update his old WWCD article with this important news.
be airing at anytime now to tell 101.1 listeners where they can find WWCD.
Older article on the 101.1 message loop:
http://www.allbusiness.com/humanities-social-science/visual-performing-arts-music/15197584-1.html
Maybe the message loop will appear on December 13 and tOSU will take over the 101.1 frequency
after January 1 with Classical music?
I thought this wouldn't happen until after January 1, 2011.. SURPRISE!!!
BTW, Is Tim Feran still working at the Columbus Dispatch? His email is bouncing back.
I was hoping he would update his old WWCD article with this important news.
gabigley1 said:If that is the case, then the repeating message loop that is supposed to appear on 101.1, should
be airing at anytime now to tell 101.1 listeners where they can find WWCD.
Older article on the 101.1 message loop:
http://www.allbusiness.com/humanities-social-science/visual-performing-arts-music/15197584-1.html
Maybe the message loop will appear on December 13 and tOSU will take over the 101.1 frequency
after January 1 with Classical music?
I thought this wouldn't happen until after January 1, 2011.. SURPRISE!!!
BTW, Is Tim Feran still working at the Columbus Dispatch? His email is bouncing back.
I was hoping he would update his old WWCD article with this important news.
He had an article in yesterday's Dispatch, so I'm guessing he's still there. How long have you been getting the bouncebacks?
Just spotted this article from tUSU student newspaper about all the changes at at CD101..
A couple of weeks old but still relevant. Click here to read it: http://www.thelantern.com/arts/cd101-deals-with-changes-1.1796343
One person complains they are playing a lot less local bands these days. Could this be in anticipation of the brand new signal, 102.5 and it's expanded coverage area to the North
and Northeast?
Some people here mention problems with the new 102.5 branding. This is going to be interesting
to me because it seems like a programmers nightmare. Ohio Media Watch? Thoughts?
Lifted from the other tread but very relevant here, I think:
Quote from: xiradiodotcom on Today at 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: jhc2010 on Today at 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: gabigley1 on Yesterday at 01:30:42 PM
The audio is still pretty bad on 102.5, so maybe they still have a lot more technical work to be done before they can move permanently to 102.5.
Technical work that has to be done may also be delaying the move.
I disagree. 102.5 sounds fine to me.
Really? Maybe they fixed something today, but it has sounded hollow for a while.
Agree with xiradiodotcom about the hollow sounding audio for the last few months. That said, a top notch audio engineer told me this about people's expectations on hearing good audio quality:
"Audio quality is a very subjective subject!! No two pair of ears hear
things the same way."
Still, some people don't like the audio quality on 102.5. Note this post from priorityred, via the columbusunderground.com site, from a 4 months ago:
http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/whats-the-deal-with-cd101/page/4
Posted 4 months ago
priorityred
"I gave this a few weeks and it hasn't improved. 102.5 sounds all muddy and low end like it's being broadcast from the bottom of a hamper of laundry. The same signal on 101.1 is perhaps a tad too compressed, but at least it has treble."
"I am not listening to 102.5. I'll stick with 101.1 until they quit or fix it.
And if 102.5 ends up sounding the same as it does now when 101.1 goes away, well, that's what cd players are for."
Posted 4 months ago
A lot of us complained about the bad WVKO-AM audio quality on this board when WVKO-AM 1580 was progressive talk under Gary Richards a couple of years ago.
That station is now LMAed by a Catholic group and now nobody complains about poor audio on WVKO-AM anymore. The audio on 102.5 will eventually sound better, at least lets hope so.
A couple of weeks old but still relevant. Click here to read it: http://www.thelantern.com/arts/cd101-deals-with-changes-1.1796343
One person complains they are playing a lot less local bands these days. Could this be in anticipation of the brand new signal, 102.5 and it's expanded coverage area to the North
and Northeast?
Some people here mention problems with the new 102.5 branding. This is going to be interesting
to me because it seems like a programmers nightmare.
Ohio Media Watch? Thoughts?Clinton70 said:
Lifted from the other tread but very relevant here, I think:
Quote from: xiradiodotcom on Today at 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: jhc2010 on Today at 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: gabigley1 on Yesterday at 01:30:42 PM
The audio is still pretty bad on 102.5, so maybe they still have a lot more technical work to be done before they can move permanently to 102.5.
Technical work that has to be done may also be delaying the move.
I disagree. 102.5 sounds fine to me.
Really? Maybe they fixed something today, but it has sounded hollow for a while.
Agree with xiradiodotcom about the hollow sounding audio for the last few months. That said, a top notch audio engineer told me this about people's expectations on hearing good audio quality:
"Audio quality is a very subjective subject!! No two pair of ears hear
things the same way."
Still, some people don't like the audio quality on 102.5. Note this post from priorityred, via the columbusunderground.com site, from a 4 months ago:
http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/whats-the-deal-with-cd101/page/4
Posted 4 months ago
priorityred
"I gave this a few weeks and it hasn't improved. 102.5 sounds all muddy and low end like it's being broadcast from the bottom of a hamper of laundry. The same signal on 101.1 is perhaps a tad too compressed, but at least it has treble."
"I am not listening to 102.5. I'll stick with 101.1 until they quit or fix it.
And if 102.5 ends up sounding the same as it does now when 101.1 goes away, well, that's what cd players are for."
Posted 4 months ago
A lot of us complained about the bad WVKO-AM audio quality on this board when WVKO-AM 1580 was progressive talk under Gary Richards a couple of years ago.
That station is now LMAed by a Catholic group and now nobody complains about poor audio on WVKO-AM anymore. The audio on 102.5 will eventually sound better, at least lets hope so.
I'll buy that, gabigley. Once they are permanent on 102.5 only, they can probably move some equipment over to feed the new signal.
When I was close enough to hear both signals a few weeks ago, I couldn't tell much difference between 101.1 and 102.5, aside from one 15 second dropout I assume was caused by the Internet feed out to 102.5. But the audio quality itself was fine. Of course, I listen to a lot of AM radio, so who knows how good my ears are.
I don't know if their music mix would change with the signal, though. They aren't getting THAT much more coverage in urban Columbus, and whatever they're gaining up north in places like Delaware is probably not their target audience, anyway.
Just a guess on my part.
The big difference between the 101.1-to-102.5 Internet feed and the old 1580 feed... WWCD is not using public Internet streaming audio feeds to program the station, as far as I know And I'm not sure WVKO's audio problems in Gary's early days running it were related to the Internet, or just his poor quality (at the time) telco-sounding STL. It sounded more like an unequalized phone line than anything.
When I was close enough to hear both signals a few weeks ago, I couldn't tell much difference between 101.1 and 102.5, aside from one 15 second dropout I assume was caused by the Internet feed out to 102.5. But the audio quality itself was fine. Of course, I listen to a lot of AM radio, so who knows how good my ears are.
I don't know if their music mix would change with the signal, though. They aren't getting THAT much more coverage in urban Columbus, and whatever they're gaining up north in places like Delaware is probably not their target audience, anyway.
Just a guess on my part.
The big difference between the 101.1-to-102.5 Internet feed and the old 1580 feed... WWCD is not using public Internet streaming audio feeds to program the station, as far as I know
And I'm not sure WVKO's audio problems in Gary's early days running it were related to the Internet, or just his poor quality (at the time) telco-sounding STL. It sounded more like an unequalized phone line than anything.A thought...
If this Monday date is correct, could it still be "CD 101 @ 102.5" indefinitely? Maybe they consider the original "CD 101" brand sacred.
Arrrrrrrrrrgh!
If this Monday date is correct, could it still be "CD 101 @ 102.5" indefinitely? Maybe they consider the original "CD 101" brand sacred.
Arrrrrrrrrrgh!
OhioMediaWatch said:A thought...
If this Monday date is correct, could it still be "CD 101 @ 102.5" indefinitely? Maybe they consider the original "CD 101" brand sacred.
Arrrrrrrrrrgh!
That's my guess honestly... It's like they do not want to let go of the past even with the switch of the freq and possible confusion it may cause.
I can see that, especially since they continue to promote various events as "CD101", just a few days before they are going to be only on 102.5.
Would have been interesting to see how this played out without the PPM. Would diary entries of "101" or "CD101" still have been attributable to WWCD even with WOSU on the frequency?
This is almost like Columbus radio's own little take on digital TV, where "Channel 4" is really broadcasting on 56, or whatever. This really has become a virtual world...
This is almost like Columbus radio's own little take on digital TV, where "Channel 4" is really broadcasting on 56, or whatever. This really has become a virtual world...
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Thanks to the PPM they could call themselves WNCI and still count towards the ratings for Freq 102.5....
But your right, All our ATSC (Digi) TV stations are no longer on their old Analog freq's. Ex WCMH 4 is on UHF RF Channel 14.
From the Asset Purchase Agreement (attachment 5) of the Voluntary Assignment Application
BALH-20100630BQB:
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teched said:
Interesting! But isn't this supposed to be just an LMA for many moons, i.e., any closing is way off (years as I recall -- too lazy to look back though previous articles/posts at the moment)? As long as it's still just an LMA, there's no closing and hence no prohibition from continued use of 101 by WWCD, right?
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Almost, except radio tuners will continue to display 102.5, not 101.1. If they ran HD, they could scream "CD101" all over the display, but it'd still be at 102.5. ("CD 101 @ 102.5" indeed!)
It seems from the link here that they'll actually be required to dump the "101" part after closing.
xmusicmatt said:
Except, of course, that Clear Channel would immediately sue them off the radio dial.
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Wrong. The "perpetual LMA" is for 102.5, and the link refers to the sale of 101.1 to tOSU, which is indeed an actual sale.
talkers said:
That will probably happen after they vacate 101.1, and move the same STL equipment over to the 102.5 operation. It may take a few days, even.
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