CFR Expands...but when?

[soundsandsports]

So I flip to 90.7 this morning and caught the usual CFR TOH ID with one exception: WZVK, 89.3 Glasgow

I just looked up WZVK on the FCC site, and they have 800 watts of power...I guess Christian Family Radio got word that they weren't being heard clearly in Barren Co. and the rest of the eastern half of the Bowling Green market, so they did something about it.

So when did they get the "new" sister station up and running?

 

[w9wi]

Not sure where you looked them up on the FCC site, but if you used FM Query you can tell (more or less) from the File Number.

BLED-20110112AAN

which means they filed for a license-to-cover on January 12. Chances are they were operating under program test authority for at least a few days (if not weeks) before that.

 

[soundsandsports]

Not sure where you looked them up on the FCC site, but if you used FM Query you can tell (more or less) from the File Number.

BLED-20110112AAN

which means they filed for a license-to-cover on January 12. Chances are they were operating under program test authority for at least a few days (if not weeks) before that.

So why I am hearing CFR loud and clear on 105.5 now if they were supposed to be on 89.3? The WZVK's FM Query file clearly lists 89.3 and so does CFR's website...

 

[w9wi]

Not sure where you looked them up on the FCC site, but if you used FM Query you can tell (more or less) from the File Number.

BLED-20110112AAN

which means they filed for a license-to-cover on January 12. Chances are they were operating under program test authority for at least a few days (if not weeks) before that.

So why I am hearing CFR loud and clear on 105.5 now if they were supposed to be on 89.3? The WZVK's FM Query file clearly lists 89.3 and so does CFR's website...

FM translator W288BG, if you're in Lebanon TN. (apparently you are, looking at another post)

The translator still belongs to CSN. It's possible it's been sold & the sale not yet consummated -- it's also possible the translator is designed to carry CSN's Nashville station W214BQ off-air, and due to tropospheric propagation WCVK 90.7 was overriding W214BQ at the Lebanon receiver.

 

[soundsandsports]

Not sure where you looked them up on the FCC site, but if you used FM Query you can tell (more or less) from the File Number.

BLED-20110112AAN

which means they filed for a license-to-cover on January 12. Chances are they were operating under program test authority for at least a few days (if not weeks) before that.

So why I am hearing CFR loud and clear on 105.5 now if they were supposed to be on 89.3? The WZVK's FM Query file clearly lists 89.3 and so does CFR's website...

FM translator W288BG, if you're in Lebanon TN. (apparently you are, looking at another post)

The translator still belongs to CSN. It's possible it's been sold & the sale not yet consummated -- it's also possible the translator is designed to carry CSN's Nashville station W214BQ off-air, and due to tropospheric propagation WCVK 90.7 was overriding W214BQ at the Lebanon receiver.

I know we're in the early stages of FM Skip season, but the only way 105.5 gets drowned out in Lebanon is if 98.9 goes 100 kw, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

[w9wi]

I know we're in the early stages of FM Skip season, but the only way 105.5 gets drowned out in Lebanon is if 98.9 goes 100 kw, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.

- It's not skip, it's tropospheric propagation. Skip has a minimum effective distance (roughly 500 miles), signals closer than that are propagated by a different mechanism.

- It's not 105.5 getting drowned out, it's 90.7. A religious organization called CSN (Calvary Satellite Network) operates a low-powered station in Nashville (actually, Brentwood) on 90.7. The Lebanon station is licensed to receive the signals of CSN's Nashville station, convert them from 90.7 to 105.5, and rebroadcast them to Wilson County.

Of course, CFR's main Bowling Green transmitter is also on 90.7. The Lebanon relay station cannot distinguish between the two 90.7 stations* in Bowling Green & Nashville. It will relay whichever one is strongest.

* I would presume the station is using a directional antenna to receive the Nashville signals. That antenna would discriminate against CFR's Bowling Green signal. But if the antenna is damaged -- or has been blown off-aim -- or the Bowling Green signal is unusually strong -- then it wouldn't be at all impossible for CFR's signal to override CSN's. Especially as the Bowling Green transmitter is MUCH MUCH more powerful than the Nashville station.

 

[soundsandsports]

I know we're in the early stages of FM Skip season, but the only way 105.5 gets drowned out in Lebanon is if 98.9 goes 100 kw, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.

- It's not skip, it's tropospheric propagation. Skip has a minimum effective distance (roughly 500 miles), signals closer than that are propagated by a different mechanism.

- It's not 105.5 getting drowned out, it's 90.7. A religious organization called CSN (Calvary Satellite Network) operates a low-powered station in Nashville (actually, Brentwood) on 90.7. The Lebanon station is licensed to receive the signals of CSN's Nashville station, convert them from 90.7 to 105.5, and rebroadcast them to Wilson County.

Of course, CFR's main Bowling Green transmitter is also on 90.7. The Lebanon relay station cannot distinguish between the two 90.7 stations* in Bowling Green & Nashville. It will relay whichever one is strongest.

* I would presume the station is using a directional antenna to receive the Nashville signals. That antenna would discriminate against CFR's Bowling Green signal. But if the antenna is damaged -- or has been blown off-aim -- or the Bowling Green signal is unusually strong -- then it wouldn't be at all impossible for CFR's signal to override CSN's. Especially as the Bowling Green transmitter is MUCH MUCH more powerful than the Nashville station.

You're right...CSN is trying to fight back a little, becoming barely audible, then the carrier goes dead for a minute, and CFR faintly comes back. It makes it sound like an AM timeshare...