CH. 11 KTVT'S MARIA DOESN'T KNOW TEXAS

[jd]

And, the one that drives me the most nuts, I hear it mostly from people in North/Northeast Texas is NEW BRAUNFELS. There is no "S" in the middle of BRAUNFELS. It is NOT "Brawnsfels". I corrected one of my teachers on this one, when I was in school, and got sent down to the principal's office for being a smart a$$. I wasn't trying to be, I just think the class should know the correct pronunciation of the city.

So I'd take it the teacher never hung out at Gruene Hall...

www.gruenehall.com/

 

[formeraa]

Good Grief AA. Your PC glasses need to be checked in. Try to widen your scope from being narrow.

No, KPLEX, I refrained from further comment on this. But since you continue to hurl insults, you are showing your true racist stripes.

Your neo-conservative insensitivity and blatant racial stereotyping will prevent you from ever having friends of other races.

 

[snoman]

And, the one that drives me the most nuts, I hear it mostly from people in North/Northeast Texas is NEW BRAUNFELS. There is no "S" in the middle of BRAUNFELS. It is NOT "Brawnsfels". I corrected one of my teachers on this one, when I was in school, and got sent down to the principal's office for being a smart a$$. I wasn't trying to be, I just think the class should know the correct pronunciation of the city.

So I'd take it the teacher never hung out at Gruene Hall...

www.gruenehall.com/

She probably would have pronounced it "GROON".

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

ME ? Neo-conservative? Holy! I bet you would have thought that Barry Goldwater was a left wing radical. FormerAA take your meds get some sleep and work on those 12 steps of your PC addicition.. sheesh. The Phoenix sun must be bearing down harder and earlier this year.

 

[SeanRuadh]

Formeraa wrote: Texas is quite segregated but I was beginning to think nobody in Texas had friends from other ethnic/racial backgrounds.

Former, I find this quite offensive. Texas is most certainly not segregated by race. Perhaps by economics, but to those of us who fought hard to end open housing (which ended in 1968) to call our state segregated is very off base. Even cities like PLANO and ARLINGTON have significant minority populations now. In fact, Arlington will be minority-majority in a few years. As for San Antonio, the descendents of Mexican immigrants have assimilated, and consider themselves AMERICAN. They speak english, they know the idiomatic pronunciations, and they live in every zip code of Bexar county. Sure, there are carpet-baggers who wear an ethnic grudge on their sleeve, but fortunately, they move on to Arizona, 'cause people in S.A. don't have time for their B.S. You say your ancestors suffered. Get over it. Things are tough all over. But your attitude will make it likely you will have few friends of any ethnic background, anywhere.
s

 

[SeanRuadh]

Aw nuts, I got so excited about this, I wrote the exact opposite of what I meant. Open housing CAME in 1968.
We worked hard to end the deed restrictions that prevented non-whites from living in certain neighborhoods.
So, anyway 'Former, what have you done to bridge the divide between ethnic groups, other than your name calling?
s
(btw- the correct pronunciation of Gruene in German is GROIN.)

 

[FilioScotia]

"Gruen" is not pronounced "groin". In German words and names with double vowel sets, the second letter is the one that's pronounced.

Gruen is correctly pronounced "green". It's words with those vowels reversed that have the "oy" sound. Freud, for example. Bach's cantata Jesu Meine Freude has two good examples of this. Yaysoo Myna Froyda. Others: Heinrich is "Hynrick", not "Heenrik".

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Ja!

 

[dhett]

"Gruen" is not pronounced "groin". In German words and names with double vowel sets, the second letter is the one that's pronounced.

Gruen is correctly pronounced "green".

Close. If you reeeeally want to get technical, it's an "ee" sound, but with the lips rounded as if to say "oo". The result sounds like a cross between the "oo" and "ee". In French, the "u" is also pronounced that way, and it's one of the more difficult sounds in either French or German for English-speakers to master. We usually just say "oo", or sometimes, with German words, "ee". The reason it's spelled "Gruene" is that the English language doesn't have characters with umlauts. The correct German spelling is "Grüne", which incidentally, means "green". If I'm not mistaken, Gruene Hall is pronounced "green".

This linguistic exercise was brought to you by the letters "E" and "U", and by the number "8".

 

[jd]

If I'm not mistaken, Gruene Hall is pronounced "green".

I agree. So does Willie.

 

[SeanRuadh]

Yes, of course, Gruen is pronounced Green. I made a little joke. A very little one.
I've heard it pronounced groin, just as I have heard people say New Brauns-fels so many times, it is almost an accepted pronunciation.
Now, who knows how to say 'Rueckle Road'?

s

 

[jd]

Yes, of course, Gruen is pronounced Green. I made a little joke. A very little one.
I've heard it pronounced groin, just as I have heard people say New Brauns-fels so many times, it is almost an accepted pronunciation.
Now, who knows how to say 'Rueckle Road'?

A good one. You'd probably get several different answers from San Antonio TV or radio folks. Seems like the city is notorious for butchering street names. (On an admittedly unrelated but revealing note, I once heard a produced promo on Y-100 for the Majestic Theatre stage production of "Less Miserables." Ouch! Fortunately the TV spots which aired concurrently were produced correctly elsewhere.)

 

[dhett]

Now, who knows how to say 'Rueckle Road'?

Forget "Rueckle Road" - what I want to know is (and I'm sure formeraa is secretly dying to learn the answer to this too): do you pronounce your name "Shon" or do you pronounce it "Seen", as the weather guy at KPHO channel 5 in Phoenix does? More than a few people over at the Phoenix TV board are obsessing over that one.

 

[SeanRuadh]

Sean Ruadh is a charactor from Irish Mythology. It's pronounced Shawn Roo. I used it as an air-name a couple of decades ago.
Rueckle Road is named after the Rueckle family, and their farm in southern Comal County.
They pronounce it RICK- lee.
Now, how may North Texas announcers know that Italy Texas is pronounced IT-lee?
SR

 

[jd]

Now, how may North Texas announcers know that Italy Texas is pronounced IT-lee?

(raises hand) I do! Home of the Gladiators. And the fur really flies when they play the Kerens* Bobcats.

(*) yep, there's another one that most of the TV folks mispronounce (one on Channel 8 called it "CARE-ens"). It's on Texas 31 east of Corsicana (watch the speed limit if you're passing through); the locals call it "KURNS."

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Yep Ch.11 blew KERNS as well. Let us not forget "Culebra Rd" in SA, some guy on ch.12 KSAT down there called it:

are you ready? "CULL -A- BRA" <short A rhymes with the name of a woman's undergarment>

I know, I know my bad "racist self"

 

[snoman]

;D Cull-A-Bra?! I love it. Naturally, it's Cul-ay-brah.

And, I could have gone my whole life without hearing about Kerens, Texas again. I got two tickets going through Kerens on S.H. 31, one by a city (if that's what you want to call it) cop and one by a DPS cop. After that, I started driving about 10 miles under the speed limit from Trinidad to Hubbard. Thank God, I don't have to drive that route anymore.

 

[FilioScotia]

How do you spot a newbie in Austin?

The newly arrived news announcer who pronounces that little town east of Austin as El-jin. And that road going north out of Austin as Bur-NET, instead of Burnit.

 

[formeraa]

Yep Ch.11 blew KERNS as well. Let us not forget "Culebra Rd" in SA, some guy on ch.12 KSAT down there called it:

are you ready? "CULL -A- BRA" <short A rhymes with the name of a woman's undergarment>

I know, I know my bad "racist self"

That's not the least bit racist!

I lived in SA for 5 years and never heard one single person mispronounce "Culebra". We did have controversy over "Blanco Rd". Is it "Blonco" or "Blank-o"? Native San Antonians would say "Blank-o". Newer people would say "Blonco".

 

[jd]

I lived in SA for 5 years and never heard one single person mispronounce "Culebra". We did have controversy over "Blanco Rd". Is it "Blonco" or "Blank-o"? Native San Antonians would say "Blank-o". Newer people would say "Blonco".

I heard Coo-LEB-ruh occasionally. But Blanco was generally pronounced Blank-oh. Just like the Blanco Cafe (don't know about you, but I always preferred the the original location). And then there's that major north-south road, San Pedro. It ain't Pay-dro...