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Changes at The River

People aren't idiots.

They'll figure it out. Actually most of them probably already know it's network.

However, Jake's a great talent. And if he's with a company that's paying him a good salary and treats him well, more power to him!
 
However, Jake's a great talent. And if he's with a company that's paying him a good salary and treats him well, more power to him!
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Thanks! I try. Some days are better than others...And they DO treat me well.

Jake
 
Tillman- I agree aboiut Jake. My post wasn't about him, though. I also agree that people aren't idiots. So, why treat them like they are? Joyner doesn't try to fool anyone by trying to make them think he's in a studio in Victorian Village. Stern doesn't do that. Bob and Tom never did it. Why here? If they're trying to fool me about that, what else are they trying to fool me about? It reminds me of the old Bobb Chevrolet "remotes" that were actually phoned in weeks in advance. "We're here at B-O-B-B Bobb Chevrolet on this Saturday morning to tell you about the great deals blah, blah, blah..." I remember sitting in a studio on Wednesday and carting those up for Saturday morning. It just doesn't sit well for a station whose stock in trade is supposed to be truth.
 
Heard this week that they are selling part of the property in Zanesville to "Use the proceeds to build a new studio on the top of the hill on the current location.

My question is, why??? They are just satteliting it in from Columbus anyway, the same as 95.1 and have been doing that for quite some time, what are they building it for?? the transmitter? It's in Crooksville anyway.

Maybe they have a buyer on the line and one of the conditions is they have to build a new studio.
 
You know, it must be nice to have nothing better to do with your time than to try to figure out all the things going on at the River! Who cares if they're selling their property and what does it matter to you whether they have a buyer or not? I've been watching this whole thread for a while now and it's pretty comical! If you're THAT interested, call them and ask for an interview with the manager! And if you've got all the answers for fixing the station, contact the board of directors or whatever and sell them on putting you in charge! (Yeah, I didn't think so!)
 
ecdzit said:
You know, it must be nice to have nothing better to do with your time than to try to figure out all the things going on at the River! Who cares if they're selling their property and what does it matter to you whether they have a buyer or not? I've been watching this whole thread for a while now and it's pretty comical! If you're THAT interested, call them and ask for an interview with the manager! And if you've got all the answers for fixing the station, contact the board of directors or whatever and sell them on putting you in charge! (Yeah, I didn't think so!)
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I don't know if that was an attack on me or what, but that is what this whole thread is about anyway right? Changes at the River?
I care because I have listened to the station for many years and it concerns me the way things are going. It seems like they don't care to be local anymore.

I am actually quite stunned Jake is still there. Considering they got rid of live mornings, why concede that piece of time to the other stations?

It just doesn't make sense, unless the river is about to dry up financially. They are donor based after all and the economy stinks.
 
Easy does it, ecdzit. This whole board is chock full of speculation and "I wonder if...". Not just this thread. So? No need to be so defensive. There are a lot of us here who have been invested in The River for many, many years... long before it was The River. I suggest you take a deep breath and switch to decaf for a while.
 
Bad economy.. "The Sky Is Falling???" Did you know that the overall support numbers for listener supported radio is UP?????? Tell anyone that all is bad and forget gas lines in the 70's and you get folks giving over the 'poor is me' syndrome.. We are gluttens, we are fat, out of shape and expect an entitlement to life, not the opportunity to prosper... Watch what we say on that... I may have had a rough year and owe some money, but it was not of the economy's doing.. Most of us are in our particular situation by our own doing... Geez? The stocks lose 3 to 400 hundred in one day and you'd think we were in the great depression... Yet, the news does not follow that with how it goes up an average of 40 or so points a week for a few and then 'takes a breath'.... In 1977, 300 points down would have been horrible, for the fact the overall numbers were much lower... My question is: is the glass half empty or half full??? Just a random obersvation... :-\
 
Let's clarify something.. the building that the River is currently operating out of in Zanesville is falling into the ground, literally. Talk has been in the air for YEARS about selling that property and building new... even before the Joy FM days, so this is nothing new. Though only the sales staff is in zville now, maybe a studio is needed for recording local commercials? I doubt that all that land they have is needed anyway.. whats it gonna be used for... mowing?

Yes.. many changes have been made in recent years, many to the dislike of those on here.. but my guess is that many were done with the budget in mind. I don't know about you, but I would rather have what we have, rather than nothing at all. Yes, the situation could be better, but lets take what we can get. Just my opinion. :)
 
Nicely put michiana! There are those of us on here that STILL support the station, changes or not! Too many "religious" people get their panties in a wad and do the "I'll show you, I'm just going to take my marbles and go home" :mad: routine! But as you said, something's better than nothing! How quickly we forget the two previous all-music stations that died on the vine - "The Light" and Salem's feeble attempt, buying the former Z-Rock in Johnstown and turning it into a satellite station with DJ's in Texas! They lasted what ... a year to a year and a half or so? Be thankful (now that we're in November) for what we have! There are plenty of other markets who wish they had something like the River!

See, I didn't even have to switch from the double-shot latte after all! :)
 
That would be a great liner! "104.9 The River... We're better than nothing!"

"104.9 The River... Better than listening to your toaster"

"104.9 The River... Better than a sharp stick in the eye"

"104.9 The River... We've left the building"

"104.9 The River... Seattle's best, er I mean, Columbus'... never mind"

"104.9 The River... Serving Columbus, and we're pretty sure it's the one in Ohio!"

OK, I quit... this is too much fun!
 
What happened with Greg Murray?

I know he does the voice of the Bluejackets at the arena.

I listened today to the AM show and I did not like it. Too fake. No local stuff either :(
 
To:NotMe,

Bro, you are in dire need of an attitude adjustment. Why should I have to come here to defend my station from you? If you don't like it, turn it off...It's ALWAYS been that way. :-\

To:mee816,

Greg landed a SWEET outside gig that he can do from home. He is still with us, but on a contract basis.

Jake
 
All the bickering over a Christian radio station...there is a sick irony in that.

I'm so glad that local Christian media means enough to some that they want to argue their points and try to improve something that they find lacking, but may I suggest in the most respectful terms possible that further and future discussions be done without personal jabs and ridicule? Disagreement and debate are noble things when conducted in noble fashion. Taunting and making fun of the station and/or the staff is not the way to go and diatribes composed in anger are rarely productive.

One man's opinion...
 
Jake there's no reason you do need to come here to defend your station. Frankly, it's an indefensable position. As a long time (former) FINANCIAL supporter of the station, I've EARNED the right to criticize it.

Columbus deserves better. In the past, we've received better so we know that your station has (or had, maybe) the ability to deliver. "Be happy with what we've got"? That's just rubbish. Christian radio should be the best on the dial.

Stations like yours always walk that fine line between business and ministry. I've got no quarrell with that. Lately, it seems like that dial has shifted more toward the business side. Therefore, there's no reason to sidle up to it as a "Christian Station". It's nothing more than a radio station that happens to play christian music. I used to support the ministry side. But, as a business owner, I can't see supporting the station through my advertising budget unless I see some real big improvement. I was an advertiser at one time as well.

As far as your suggestion that I turn it off, I already have. Apparently, so have many others. Now, there's 91.5. They may be offering nothing more than music right now, but at least they're local.

I wish you well, Jake.
 
NotMe said:
As a long time (former) FINANCIAL supporter of the station, I've EARNED the right to criticize it.
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Wow...

That statement is SMACK of arrogance.
 
Columbus deserves better. In the past, we've received better so we know that your station has (or had, maybe) the ability to deliver. "Be happy with what we've got"? That's just rubbish. Christian radio should be the best on the dial.
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What exactly are you talking about? What have you recieved better? Better programing? From where?

Christian radio should be the best on the dial.
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We do good radio. This is not bragging. I was 2nd women 25-54 (.1 behind COL) and the entire station is consistantly in the top 5 in our target demo. Can you get there by doing bad radio.

And while I have you here...YOU are not on the recieving end of the people that have been off the crack for 2 days and counting on the music and ministry we provide at The River to pull them through another day. Have you heard the calls from crying family members saying "thank you to The River Family for praying for my baby, the cancer is gone"? It happens, bro. It happens EVERYDAY and I am here to see it because I take the calls..How much more LOCAL can you be?

It keeps ME off the crack everyday...it's a safe place for ME to be. Try calling 95.1 when you kid is sick and needs prayer...no one will answer. If you call me, I can promise that 50,001 believers will lift your child up to the Father and he will hear because that is what he promised to do.

Jake
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I think what upsets me about posts here is every thinks they know the facts and speaks as if they do. First off I agree the River should have a live morning show, fact is they don't. I also agree if you don't like it turn if off. Just because you may have supported them in the past doesn't give you any rights above anyone else...sorry to burst your bubble!
What I hear is everyone knows how to do Baughman's job except him...LOL! Just like John Copper, everyone knew how to do his job but the reality is HE was the one that got the wins, not you!

I have heard how great 91.5 is, are they investing in the community like the River is. What was Rob Case’s real motives, what are they now. The station isn’t running legal per FCC guidelines. You complain the River doesn’t have a morning show 91.5 doesn’t have anything not even the legal ID’S!!!! Yep, they sure are better aren’t they?

It is hard to read the lack of concern for facts and have enough tissues to wipe my eyes from all the whining going on here. If you want change at the River call Baughman tell him what you think…didn’t think you had the courage, yep easier to hide behind your fake screen name…

I love the creditability the River has brought to Christian radio, even though I don’t agree with everything, but I agree with a lot they have done! I say call and encourage them to keep struggling and tell them what needs changed…

Be part of the solution
 
NotMe said:
That would be a great liner! "104.9 The River... We're better than nothing!"

"104.9 The River... Better than listening to your toaster"

"104.9 The River... Better than a sharp stick in the eye"

"104.9 The River... We've left the building"

"104.9 The River... Seattle's best, er I mean, Columbus'... never mind"

"104.9 The River... Serving Columbus, and we're pretty sure it's the one in Ohio!"

OK, I quit... this is too much fun!
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I am not so sure what your rub is with a station having a syndicated show on...I mean, there are a ton of stations that do it and honestly for a Christian station to utilize that sort of service is just wise stewardship of funds. It is a no lose situation because the product being delivered is still on par with what was delivered before and the main product of the station (the music) is still in tact.

Think back 12 or so years ago when WTLT was suddenly taken off the air. The night before the station was hosting a Michael W. Smith concert at the Ohio Center. The staff was there having a great time, I later found out from a couple of them that they had been told to go to the show, celebrate what they had accomplished with WTLT with the listeners and bands but that they were not needed after the show...so these people cleaned out their desks before they came to the concert and never let anything dampen the joy of that time because the people I talked to (Marty Daniels and Dave Riley) felt like they were building something that others would build on...and they kept building after WTLT went away, Dave went on to work in Oklahoma City at a Christian radio station and Marty went on to help establish RadioU here in Columbus and I found out on another thread that he now does Comedy with churches and corporations.

Before WTLT, 106.3 was a Christian Music Station back in the early-mid 80's...it laid the ground work for WTLT, WCVO and even RadioU. Even WRFD played music in the late 80 and early 90's until WTLT came on.

The constant thing in all of these things, including life is "change".

ALL change is good.

If "The River" doesn't "Float your boat" don't listen, withdraw your financial support and let them know what changes you would like to see put in place. Then pray for them and pray that you find something to listen to that you can enjoy just as much or more than you did "The River".

Be encouraged.
 
Jake- This isn't about you. It's about the other 20 hours the station is on the air, particularly where the morning show used to be. First of all, we used to get better programming from The River. Second, I'm not minimizing your experience, but what happens when that call comes in at 10 AM, or 12:30, or 8 PM? I'm talking about studio calls, not the ones to the receptionist. A crisis call is most likely to come into the studio since that's the number you give on the air. But, there's nobody home. "How much more local can you be?" That's exactly my point!

Mattee: I HAVE spoken to Baughman... face to face... several times. I'm not saying anything here that I haven't said directly to him, so stow that garbage about hiding behind a screen name, "Mattee". ..... I don't claim to have any rights above anyone else's, so my bubble isn't burst. My bubble is quite in tact. I do have the right to an opinion though, or is that true only if I agree with you? ..... Casting aspersions on Rob Case's motives when you don't have the first clue about what they are (were)? Size THAT up with the first sentence in your post!

xianbroadcaster: "All change is good"???? ??? Please limit your comments to events on the planet earth.

Look, calling yourself a Christian station or a ministry does not place you above criticism or accountability. It surely doesn't mean that we should accept out of hand every move they make as being "good". That position is just naieve! Taking the attitude that if people don't like it, they should turn it off is a cop-out, not to mention counter productive.
 
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