Changes in DFW's LPTV market

[julesism]

in response to AlanB, right now FIOS 24 and KODF-LD 26.2 have the same ad program on.... ???

 

[TexasTom]

The FCC database shows that KLEG is licensed as a Class A television station. Doesn't that mean E/I programming is mandated? If so, do they break away from the slide to meet that requirement for all two of us who watch it?

As a Class A, KLEG is supposed to meet a variety of mandates, including the three hours of E/I programming. But I suspect that enforcement would be based on the FCC receiving a complaint about the station.

 

[fredcantu]

Some stations do their E/I as 30-minutes, 6 days a week.
You can probably also do 30 one-minute segments spread through the week.

 

[JHBrandt]

KNAV not dead yet

KNAV just filed to amend their CP, so perhaps they're getting ready to go back on the air in a few months. Now they're going for the full 15kW instead of just 10. The whopping 2dB increase would push their service out a bit further into the 'burbs.

Edit: I might not even be able to receive it. Antenna height is only 180m AGL. KHPK & K31GL are 330m AGL.

Actually it looks like 31-2 and 47-3 are both Mexicanal, but they're showing different programming. Perhaps one is delayed.

As of Sunday 31-2 and 47-3 were the same. It looks like K31GL will soon be looking for something to fill 31-2 as well as 31-1.

Speaking of K31GL, RTV was off of 31-4 this weekend for the third time in about a month. Don't know if it's back on yet, but Saturdays aren't the same without the old Battlestar Galactica. It's hilarious to watch what was considered "futuristic" back in '79!

 

[arnoldevns]

For what it's worth.. RTV was back this morning.

 

[JHBrandt]

For what it's worth.. RTV was back this morning.

Yes; I saw they got it back on Monday.

It's no big deal; just one of life's little annoyances. I think they just have occasional problems with the RTV feed, but if problems occur Friday evening no one wants to stick around to fix them - not to mention that if they need to speak to someone at RTV there's probably no one available anyway - so they just switch over to locally-originated programming for the weekend and leave it until Monday.

 

[arnoldevns]

in response to AlanB, right now FIOS 24 and KODF-LD 26.2 have the same ad program on.... ???

Saw a note on Fios yesterday that 24 will soon go away.

 

[DToTheJ]

Some stations do their E/I as 30-minutes, 6 days a week...

And some opt to schedule them at 7 AM, which is the earliest a station can run E/I programming per the FCC.

 

[JHBrandt]

K31GL finally dropped long-dark channel 31-1 from their PSIP.

 

[arnoldevns]

That's odd. How many other stations have .2, .3 etc.. without a .1?

 

[JHBrandt]

KODF drops its subchannels

No big loss, but KODF has dropped 26-2 and 26-3 from their lineup.

BTW, RTV was off the air yet again this Saturday, but this time, 31-4 got it back by Sunday.

 

[JHBrandt]

Re: KNAV not dead yet

KNAV just filed to amend their CP, so perhaps they're getting ready to go back on the air in a few months. Now they're going for the full 15kW instead of just 10. The whopping 2dB increase would push their service out a bit further into the 'burbs.

The FCC approved the modification. Watch for more color bars to appear on RF 22 soon.

As of Sunday 31-2 and 47-3 were the same. It looks like K31GL will soon be looking for something to fill 31-2 as well as 31-1.

I mentioned this on another thread, but K31GL put 31-1 back on their PSIP (after dropping it for awhile), still w/o programming. Reminds me of 31-5, which got added many weeks before any actual programming appeared, resulting in much hopeful speculation until the slot was actually filled - with infomercials

 

[Bob E. Nelson]

Re: KNAV not dead yet

The FCC approved the [KNAV 15 kW] modification. Watch for more color bars to appear on RF 22 soon.

...and after they do light it up, then what? Color bars for weeks (like KHPK)? Maybe months? I think we both agree that this market has long ago reached a saturation point as far as actually programming these super-abundant LPTV streams.

Maybe Trip can answer this: Is there a financial benefit to have a constructed facility when the time comes for spectrum reallocation or is just a CP sufficient?

 

[JHBrandt]

Good questions. Are KHPK, KLEG, and soon possibly KNAV just beaming something out in hopes of selling off their transmitters if/when incentive auctions happen? (You'd think they'd at least put up an ad page: "This channel for lease - call xxx-xxx-xxxx.")

Of the three, I'd most hate to see KLEG go. Their downtown-Dallas transmitter should let almost everyone inside Loop 12 get them with an indoor antenna, and areas north and/or east will likely have better antennas anyhow. But they apparently haven't figured out how to market their theoretical advantage to potentially profitable networks like MeTV, TheCoolTV, etc.

 

[tripinva]

Re: KNAV not dead yet

Maybe Trip can answer this: Is there a financial benefit to have a constructed facility when the time comes for spectrum reallocation or is just a CP sufficient?

There's no telling if any LPTV station will benefit.

- Trip

 

[eskipper411]

What I am waiting to see is what Tropo DX does to KNAV..... KAUZ in Wichita Falls will shatter that signal to pieces on my antenna.

 

[JHBrandt]

What I am waiting to see is what Tropo DX does to KNAV..... KAUZ in Wichita Falls will shatter that signal to pieces on my antenna.

You may be OK. You probably have an antenna with a high F/B ratio, which should attenuate the weaker signal from behind more than 15 dB below the stronger one. But 'burbs SE of Dallas (e.g., Ferris) may see the interference you're talking about, since there'd only be about 60 degrees separation between the signals.

 

[DToTheJ]

Good questions. Are KHPK, KLEG, and soon possibly KNAV just beaming something out in hopes of selling off their transmitters if/when incentive auctions happen? ... Of the three, I'd most hate to see KLEG go...

Or, in their case, "hop along". :

 

[JHBrandt]

Looks like 34.1 is no longer simulcasting 47.2. Last time I checked it was showing infomercials :

What I am waiting to see is what Tropo DX does to KNAV..... KAUZ in Wichita Falls will shatter that signal to pieces on my antenna.

You may be OK. You probably have an antenna with a high F/B ratio, which should attenuate the weaker signal from behind more than 15 dB below the stronger one. But 'burbs SE of Dallas (e.g., Ferris) may see the interference you're talking about, since there'd only be about 60 degrees separation between the signals.

Silly me. That assumed you'd rather watch KNAV than KAUZ. Even though KNAV isn't on the air yet, that seems unlikely. If you're more interested in KAUZ during tropo episodes, interference from KNAV is a bigger problem: it'd probably be the stronger signal, which means you'd need a F/B ratio well above 15 dB. You may need to gang together two antennas with a 1/4 wavelength (just under 6 inches at RF 22) N/S separation and a 1/4 wavelength delay line to null out KNAV.

 

[JHBrandt]

Looks like 34.1 is no longer simulcasting 47.2. Last time I checked it was showing infomercials :

Last night it looked like 34.1 was broadcasting UAN again, but it was no longer simulcast with 47.2.

That makes some sense. If you're going to broadcast programming that's available on another channel, you can always delay it a few hours rather than merely showing a simulcast. Someone who likes the channel but doesn't happen to like what's on now might find a repeat of an earlier show more appealing. It's an idea KSTR & KFWD could adopt for 49.2 & 52.2 respectively.

Also, it looks like KBOP/20.2 has gone dark. These are tough times for the videospammers....