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Changes in DFW's LPTV market
- Thread starter JHBrandt
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And tonight I see almavision on 26.2 and punch on 28.1
I enjoyed watching The Jackie Robsinson Story tonight on Punch TV 28.1. Not too many commercials. But they did have the one where the cell phone straps to the side of your head. 
As for other programming that's coming, I saw a placeholder for 30.8 for BPEN (Black Premier Entertainment Network). I don't know when they will be signing on.
As for other programming that's coming, I saw a placeholder for 30.8 for BPEN (Black Premier Entertainment Network). I don't know when they will be signing on.
30.8 has been on-again, off-again since KWDA added it to their lineup. At first it was a preview for a station to be titled Diicon; then it became a music channel for a while, with a slide show honoring African-American musicians; then it went to color bars for a while; and now the new preview slide (what's with the elephant, BTW ??? ). I hope they finally get it together but I'm not holding my breath.
For what it's worth.. I see where KHFW Denison has applied to move to channel 4. It would be 100 watts at 67 feet with a tower near 75 and 121.. the city of license would be Dallas. (see here: http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?facid=130952 )
The coverage area (according to Trip Erickson's awesome rabbitears.info website) would be limited to McKinney and Plano.
I can't imagine why anyone would want a station like this. It may be another vaporware station that never signs on the air despite what they tell the FCC. Anyway.. it's an odd move.. if it ever fires up, I might get it.
The coverage area (according to Trip Erickson's awesome rabbitears.info website) would be limited to McKinney and Plano.
I can't imagine why anyone would want a station like this. It may be another vaporware station that never signs on the air despite what they tell the FCC. Anyway.. it's an odd move.. if it ever fires up, I might get it.
So how does that work? Two stations on the same virtual Ch 29, KMPX RF 30, and KHFW RF 4. ???
tested said:
With an antenna that is only 67 feet up at that power level, I frankly can't imagine that the useable coverage area will be more than a fraction of their theoretical coverage area. My bet is that even if it does sign on from that location, I'll never see a trace of it here in Plano.
Megapsycle said:
KHFW would have to use a different virtual channel number. They can't use channel 29, their current digital physical and virtual channel, as KMPX uses that; they can't use channel 4, their new physical channel, as KDFW uses that; and they can't use channel 30, KMPX's physical channel, and their old analog channel, as KWDA is using that. Most likely, they would use KDFW's physical channel 35 as their virtual channel, assuming that they ever sign on.
Megapsycle said:
It can work. You just get two sets of 29.1 etc. I get that when KXXV comes in and I still get k25fw
So, the comical part of this application is that it looks like the antenna will be on top of the lacosta outlet store at the Allen outlet mall.
tested said:
Depends on the receiver. Back when KTVT was broadcasting on both RF11 and RF19 some receivers would show two 11.1's; some would only show one. One of my boxes (an Apex DT250, IIRC) actually showed RF19 as 19.1
Echostar's boxes are the most comical. The first one detected (presumably KMPX unless you reran the setup wizard from scratch) would show as 29 while the second would show with a dummy number between 70 & 99.
That said, I'm sure dhett is right and they would use virtual channel 35, not 29. Most likely it's just another HCCN vaporware station, and if they get the license they'll probably quickly apply to move downtown or to Cedar Hill.
The only way they might duplicate another station's virtual channel number is if they were acting as a translator for that other station. That's also the only logical reason I can think of for a station with such a small coverage area.
Re: KXDA continues the trend
KQFW/24 is still dead, but the FCC has given KXDA their license for RF 5. Expect KXDA to apply to move closer to Cedar Hill (I think they're still over 30 miles out so it'll take 2 or 3 more steps) real soon now.... :
Bob E. Nelson said:JHBrandt said:KXDA & KQFW have applied for licenses to cover their construction permits on RF 5 and RF 24. With anyone else I'd say that meant they were close to going on the air. But with these guys.... :
As for KQFW RF-24, there's not a hint of any ATSC waveform there. Per another thread, I was checking analog channel 6 on the Sencore (it has only an audio component and nothing at down in the lower part of the NTSC spectrum). Then I saw your post and examined KQFW. Nada. I can only speculate that the license to cover is for yet another zombie with the ultimate purpose of filing a CP for a Cedar Hill move.
KQFW/24 is still dead, but the FCC has given KXDA their license for RF 5. Expect KXDA to apply to move closer to Cedar Hill (I think they're still over 30 miles out so it'll take 2 or 3 more steps) real soon now.... :
JHBrandt said:tested said:
Yes, after keeping the "P-TV" promo slide on 26.2 for weeks, looks like they moved it to 28.1 after only one day. :
SBN is no longer on 28.1 but is still on 31.1
Almavision is now on both 26.2 and 28.3
The musical chairs at KODF and KHPK continue: Punch TV is back on 26.2, Almavision is on new subchannel 26.3 (and remains on 28.3 as well), and 28.1 is now color bars.
julesism said:
It's there for me as well. It sure doesn't appear to be a full facility LP analog from Cedar Hill, very snowy. Back when the low power analog stations were still on, like KODF, they were all crystal clear.
KNAV has a CP for a digital facility from Milton Tower on channel 22 but has filed a resumption of operations as of 01/12/2013 for facility ID
BLTTL-20050915ABM, 150 kW from Milton.
And here it is I quit looking for analogs when I did a re-scan yesterday. Will have to try that tonight.
tested said:
I'm curious to see what the "usual suspects" here report with the reception. More than 3-1/2 years after the transition, it's almost like seeing something new when an analog reappears after a long absence.
Yep, its there. Decent picture here in plano. Kinda curious if this was put on as a test or to keep the cp active somehow.
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