Most notalbly, their six o'clock program. I noticed it this past Monday. The anchors no longer feed Kevin Williams, the voice-over does that. And they do the dow jones report after the commercial. The sports segment starts later. After the sports segment is over, the program ends. I don't like that. I always look forward to the follow up story like the "Do The Right Thing" awards. Channel 10, it is time for some stability. I guess when you are number 2, you have to make changes to try to be number 1.
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Channel 10 has made some more changes on their broadcasts
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newscool said:Most notalbly, their six o'clock program. I noticed it this past Monday. The anchors no longer feed Kevin Williams, the voice-over does that. And they do the dow jones report after the commercial. The sports segment starts later. After the sports segment is over, the program ends. I don't like that. I always look forward to the follow up story like the "Do The Right Thing" awards. Channel 10, it is time for some stability. I guess when you are number 2, you have to make changes to try to be number 1.
Maybe it's more about you have to make changes if you are number 3 trying to be number two,..as ch.10 is currently 3rd at noon and 11pm (althoguh they remain number two at AM, 5, & 6)
While I realize I'm just a media arts student with little field experience and may be off base here but I don't think mixing up things is a bad thing. It lets the station experiment and see what happens. Our fellow poster Mark Giardina once said that Rochester was a "conservative" market in the sense that people's tv remotes rusted on channel 13 and he is correct, although they have been seeing more competition as of late(remember that three way tie at 11PM back in February???) Also Rochester probably hasn't had any new viewers in quite some time. People in the market are still going to watch Alhart until the day he retires.
And after that? Well it's up for grabs at that point. It's best for WHEC and WROC to start making good impressions. Sure people will still watch WHAM but if the other two stations play the game right they have a chance of luring viewers away. Remember, WIVB and WGRZ are still reaping the downfall of WKBW. Conditions could become right in Rochester for the same thing to occur.
And after that? Well it's up for grabs at that point. It's best for WHEC and WROC to start making good impressions. Sure people will still watch WHAM but if the other two stations play the game right they have a chance of luring viewers away. Remember, WIVB and WGRZ are still reaping the downfall of WKBW. Conditions could become right in Rochester for the same thing to occur.
Channel 13 is very smart because the station is thinking years ahead, not months. What I mean is that they already have in place people ready for what I call A A; (After Alhart). Doug Emblidge will step into Alhart’s role when Don retires and when Ginny leaves, there is either Holly Maynard or someone else. Many of their field reporters have had the opportunity to anchor as well. Let’s hope 13’s new owner doesn’t come in and screw things up.
At Channel 10 the smart move was putting Jennifer Johnson on at 11pm. She will eventually replace Janet Lomax. Now when Rich Funke decides its time to retire, who will be his replacement? That’s a question 10’s management better start thinking about.
Channel 8 unfortunately doesn’t have any talent waiting in the stables to move in if and when Kevin and Maureen leave. That, along with 8’s revolving door policy when it comes to on-air staff, is one of the reasons the station has been influx for so many years. Truthfully I am surprised to read that 8 is doing so well against 10 in recent ratings. Either people are tired of watching 10, which does not bode well for WHEC, or 8 is benefiting from the CBS network lineup of shows.
In summary, yes the time is right for 10 and 8 to try new things. The audience of TV viewers is not growing amongst younger viewers and older people are sticking with Alhart.
But time marches on and eventually things change. The big question is whether there will be enough people watching local news to care?
At Channel 10 the smart move was putting Jennifer Johnson on at 11pm. She will eventually replace Janet Lomax. Now when Rich Funke decides its time to retire, who will be his replacement? That’s a question 10’s management better start thinking about.
Channel 8 unfortunately doesn’t have any talent waiting in the stables to move in if and when Kevin and Maureen leave. That, along with 8’s revolving door policy when it comes to on-air staff, is one of the reasons the station has been influx for so many years. Truthfully I am surprised to read that 8 is doing so well against 10 in recent ratings. Either people are tired of watching 10, which does not bode well for WHEC, or 8 is benefiting from the CBS network lineup of shows.
In summary, yes the time is right for 10 and 8 to try new things. The audience of TV viewers is not growing amongst younger viewers and older people are sticking with Alhart.
But time marches on and eventually things change. The big question is whether there will be enough people watching local news to care?
Yes, but just remember that you being "just a media arts student with little field experience" also makes you something else.dustintv said:While I realize I'm just a media arts student with little field experience and may be off base here but I don't think mixing up things is a bad thing. ...
Something the TV stations covet, or should.
You see, you...my friend, are a VIEWER.
So perhaps as such, you opinion should count for more than some of the "veteran" TV types who post on this board and who, because they have been involved in TV for so long, have not in fact been "average viewers" for..well...years.
Mark_Giardina said:At Channel 10 the smart move was putting Jennifer Johnson on at 11pm.....
Either people are tired of watching 10, which does not bode well for WHEC, or 8 is benefiting from the CBS network lineup of shows.
The SMART move, Mark ???? They've fallen to THIRD at 11pm. (and not more than couple years ago they were actually FIRST at 11)
How smart is that?? I think the Jennifer Johnson experiment is failing.
And, while I'm here, this is the second post I've seen (the other is on the "ratings" discussion on this thread) where someone infers that 8's success at 11pm MUST be because of CBS prime.
Why,...it couldn't possibly be that viewers actually prefer to watch News 8 Now at 11,..could it??
Hmmmmm ???
Also, the ratings show that in Rochester the numbers for ABC prime are just as strong as CBS prime. (It's a fact-- look it up). So, why is it that nobody ever says .."13 benefits from the strong lead ins from ABC" -Or- "...13 continues to hang on the the number one spot, mostly because of the strong lead ins from ABC prime."
I know, I know,...it's absolutely blasphemous to suggest any of this,.. and I can already feel the sting of the rotten fruit about to be chucked at me as I stand at the pillory.
(Oh, well,,,I could always get a job at the Ren. Festival in Sterling, I suppose)
newscool said:I had no idea 10 was 3rd at noon and at 11. When you come in at 3rd behind WROC, something's not right.
Here again, another example of a "back handed" compliment. EXACTLY what I'm talking about!
Kohoutek said:The SMART move, Mark ???? They've fallen to THIRD at 11pm. (and not more than couple years ago they were actually FIRST at 11)
How smart is that?? I think the Jennifer Johnson experiment is failing.
And, while I'm here, this is the second post I've seen (the other is on the "ratings" discussion on this thread) where someone infers that 8's success at 11pm MUST be because of CBS prime.
Why,...it couldn't possibly be that viewers actually prefer to watch News 8 Now at 11,..could it??
Hmmmmm ???
Also, the ratings show that in Rochester the numbers for ABC prime are just as strong as CBS prime. (It's a fact-- look it up). So, why is it that nobody ever says .."13 benefits from the strong lead ins from ABC" -Or- "...13 continues to hang on the the number one spot, mostly because of the strong lead ins from ABC prime."
I know, I know,...it's absolutely blasphemous to suggest any of this,.. and I can already feel the sting of the rotten fruit about to be chucked at me as I stand at the pillory.
(Oh, well,,,I could always get a job at the Ren. Festival in Sterling, I suppose)
The smart move from the perspective that instead of waiting until Janet decided to retire, 10 went ahead and moved Johnson to 11pm. None of this long good-bye stuff which I'm sure 13 will air when Alhart finally decides to pack it in. Now I didn't say that Johnson was going to bring in ratings, I was referring to getting her on-air so the viewing audience can get used to her. That is a smart move. If you remember back that far, it was a guessing game who would be named co-anchor at Channel 10 and the final decision was Janet Lomax; not that the top brass didn't have her in mind anyways.
CBS has great prime numbers, which is the reason I stated that CBS's strong network line-up benefits 8. NBC's prime time apparently isn't doing much for 10, wouldn't you agree?
Personally I could care less whose on first (what's on second and whatever is on third). If 8 is gaining an audience, good for them. I'm sure that executives at Channel 10 are not very thrilled, but that's their business, not mine.
One final question. Has 8 been number #1 at 11pm for more than one book? If they have not then perhaps the book might have been a fluke. If so then 10 should worry....really worry.
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