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beaun
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All Christmas music through the holidays, then 'Positive Music for the whole family' (according to the old website). Smokescreen? Who knows... guess Bob-FM and KLBJ finally put the nail into that coffin.
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> All Christmas music through the holidays, then 'Positive
> Music for the whole family' (according to the old website).
> Smokescreen? Who knows... guess Bob-FM and KLBJ finally put
> the nail into that coffin.
>
Let's all hope it's just a smokescreen. That format would be a terrible waste of such a great local signal. But then again, that's C.C. for you.
> Music for the whole family' (according to the old website).
> Smokescreen? Who knows... guess Bob-FM and KLBJ finally put
> the nail into that coffin.
>
Let's all hope it's just a smokescreen. That format would be a terrible waste of such a great local signal. But then again, that's C.C. for you.
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ddd30
Guest
From Radio and Records website:
Austin To Get New Christian AC
Clear Channel's KPEZ (Channel 102.3)/Austin has dropped its gold-based Triple A format and has flipped to all-Christmas music. On Dec. 26, the station will officially adopt a Contemporary Christian format, as "102.3 The River." The River will be Austin's first FM contemporary Christian music station, playing artists like Steven Curtis Chapman, Newsboys, Jars of Clay and MercyMe.
Live talent is expected to debut on KPEZ in January 2006; the Channel 102.3 air staff has been let go by Clear Channel. CC will be hiring a new PD and staff soon, and all positions are still open. McVay Media's Daniel Anstandig is consulting.
Austin To Get New Christian AC
Clear Channel's KPEZ (Channel 102.3)/Austin has dropped its gold-based Triple A format and has flipped to all-Christmas music. On Dec. 26, the station will officially adopt a Contemporary Christian format, as "102.3 The River." The River will be Austin's first FM contemporary Christian music station, playing artists like Steven Curtis Chapman, Newsboys, Jars of Clay and MercyMe.
Live talent is expected to debut on KPEZ in January 2006; the Channel 102.3 air staff has been let go by Clear Channel. CC will be hiring a new PD and staff soon, and all positions are still open. McVay Media's Daniel Anstandig is consulting.
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HurricaneRun
Guest
> > All Christmas music through the holidays, then 'Positive
> > Music for the whole family' (according to the old
> website).
> > Smokescreen? Who knows... guess Bob-FM and KLBJ finally
> put
> > the nail into that coffin.
> >
> Let's all hope it's just a smokescreen. That format would be
> a terrible waste of such a great local signal. But then
> again, that's C.C. for you.
>
I am so tired of hearing people like "rockhard" (and there are many others) say that a station x or y is a "waste" just because they don't personally care for the format. Your taste are not shared by every other human.
Your hubris makes me physically ill.
HR
> > Music for the whole family' (according to the old
> website).
> > Smokescreen? Who knows... guess Bob-FM and KLBJ finally
> put
> > the nail into that coffin.
> >
> Let's all hope it's just a smokescreen. That format would be
> a terrible waste of such a great local signal. But then
> again, that's C.C. for you.
>
I am so tired of hearing people like "rockhard" (and there are many others) say that a station x or y is a "waste" just because they don't personally care for the format. Your taste are not shared by every other human.
Your hubris makes me physically ill.
HR
> I am so tired of hearing people like "rockhard" (and there
> are many others) say that a station x or y is a "waste" just
> because they don't personally care for the format. Your
> taste are not shared by every other human.
>
> Your hubris makes me physically ill.
>
> HR
>
I totally agree. This board is getting to be old and tired. No one has anything constructive or compelling to say about anything. This board contains the same three or four people echoing the same complaints over and over. For example "there's not enough dance music" or "CHR stations' play lists are not deep enough". Like the previous poster said, look past your own tastes. If you people are so well trained or educated in the workings of the industry then truly have more to say than the old "that's C.C. for you". Explore why Channel 102.3 failed and what this new format will do to the market.
> are many others) say that a station x or y is a "waste" just
> because they don't personally care for the format. Your
> taste are not shared by every other human.
>
> Your hubris makes me physically ill.
>
> HR
>
I totally agree. This board is getting to be old and tired. No one has anything constructive or compelling to say about anything. This board contains the same three or four people echoing the same complaints over and over. For example "there's not enough dance music" or "CHR stations' play lists are not deep enough". Like the previous poster said, look past your own tastes. If you people are so well trained or educated in the workings of the industry then truly have more to say than the old "that's C.C. for you". Explore why Channel 102.3 failed and what this new format will do to the market.
> I am so tired of hearing people like "rockhard" (and there
> are many others) say that a station x or y is a "waste" just
> because they don't personally care for the format. Your
> taste are not shared by every other human.
>
> Your hubris makes me physically ill.
>
I just consider it a tipping of the hand that the people who say such things are either not in the industry or not informed about the industry.
Honestly, this board is pretty tame compared to some of the ad hominem attacks I see on the boards in other markets. Look elsewhere in the regional boards and it's common to find people singling out competing station execs by name and questioning their parentage or their personal habits. Be careful what you wish for! Those other boards make me want to wash my hands or crawl under the desk after I read them.
> are many others) say that a station x or y is a "waste" just
> because they don't personally care for the format. Your
> taste are not shared by every other human.
>
> Your hubris makes me physically ill.
>
I just consider it a tipping of the hand that the people who say such things are either not in the industry or not informed about the industry.
Honestly, this board is pretty tame compared to some of the ad hominem attacks I see on the boards in other markets. Look elsewhere in the regional boards and it's common to find people singling out competing station execs by name and questioning their parentage or their personal habits. Be careful what you wish for! Those other boards make me want to wash my hands or crawl under the desk after I read them.
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eepstein
Guest
truth?
THis must have happened just yesterday because I sometimes listen to 102.3 at work. I knew the format was not doing well, but it was a very poorly programmed station with a fairly limited playlist for a classic rock venue. If done correctly, this station could have given KLBJ a serious run for its money.
Anyways, with regards to the format, I have to believe Clear Channel with flip it to Hurban just like Mega 101. No other format would make sense here. Though Austin is in the heart of the biblebelt, there are already TWO Christian music stations here covering mainly the northern parts of the city. 88.1 and 92.1.
It couldn't possibly be this format--no money to be made here. Bring on Mega 102.3.
> All Christmas music through the holidays, then 'Positive
> Music for the whole family' (according to the old website).
> Smokescreen? Who knows... guess Bob-FM and KLBJ finally put
> the nail into that coffin.
>
THis must have happened just yesterday because I sometimes listen to 102.3 at work. I knew the format was not doing well, but it was a very poorly programmed station with a fairly limited playlist for a classic rock venue. If done correctly, this station could have given KLBJ a serious run for its money.
Anyways, with regards to the format, I have to believe Clear Channel with flip it to Hurban just like Mega 101. No other format would make sense here. Though Austin is in the heart of the biblebelt, there are already TWO Christian music stations here covering mainly the northern parts of the city. 88.1 and 92.1.
It couldn't possibly be this format--no money to be made here. Bring on Mega 102.3.
> All Christmas music through the holidays, then 'Positive
> Music for the whole family' (according to the old website).
> Smokescreen? Who knows... guess Bob-FM and KLBJ finally put
> the nail into that coffin.
>
Re: Cover up?
> Anyways, with regards to the format, I have to believe Clear
> Channel with flip it to Hurban just like Mega 101. No other
> format would make sense here. Though Austin is in the heart
> of the biblebelt, there are already TWO Christian music
> stations here covering mainly the northern parts of the
> city. 88.1 and 92.1.
The Hurban format is not doing that well for Clear in the 4 markets they are in with it. On the other hand, there is considerable talk about La Preciosa PD Alex Lucas being seen in Austin to complete a shift to the La Peciosa format out of CA in early January. The Preciosa format is working for CCU in many markets, including Dallas where it is #2 Spanish format after only 2 months.
>
> It couldn't possibly be this format--no money to be made
> here. Bring on Mega 102.3.
Will not happen. Houston is not a confirmed win, and is not billing. Albuquerque is a true disaster, and they will be changing it soon. Denver is so-so, and Miami billing is off by over 70% from the former format.
It looks like there is a sneak play to go to the satellite Preciosa format. And it will be right after New Year´s day.
> Anyways, with regards to the format, I have to believe Clear
> Channel with flip it to Hurban just like Mega 101. No other
> format would make sense here. Though Austin is in the heart
> of the biblebelt, there are already TWO Christian music
> stations here covering mainly the northern parts of the
> city. 88.1 and 92.1.
The Hurban format is not doing that well for Clear in the 4 markets they are in with it. On the other hand, there is considerable talk about La Preciosa PD Alex Lucas being seen in Austin to complete a shift to the La Peciosa format out of CA in early January. The Preciosa format is working for CCU in many markets, including Dallas where it is #2 Spanish format after only 2 months.
>
> It couldn't possibly be this format--no money to be made
> here. Bring on Mega 102.3.
Will not happen. Houston is not a confirmed win, and is not billing. Albuquerque is a true disaster, and they will be changing it soon. Denver is so-so, and Miami billing is off by over 70% from the former format.
It looks like there is a sneak play to go to the satellite Preciosa format. And it will be right after New Year´s day.
What is the format of KNLE then?
> The River will be Austin's first FM contemporary Christian
> music station, playing artists like Steven Curtis Chapman,
> Newsboys, Jars of Clay and MercyMe.
>
> <P ID="signature">______________
[email protected]</P>
> The River will be Austin's first FM contemporary Christian
> music station, playing artists like Steven Curtis Chapman,
> Newsboys, Jars of Clay and MercyMe.
>
> <P ID="signature">______________
[email protected]</P>
Re: Cover up?
> The Hurban format is not doing that well for Clear in the 4
> markets they are in with it. On the other hand, there is
> considerable talk about La Preciosa PD Alex Lucas being seen
> in Austin to complete a shift to the La Peciosa format out
> of CA in early January. The Preciosa format is working for
> CCU in many markets, including Dallas where it is #2 Spanish
> format after only 2 months.
If this is true, it could put a dent into KHHL's market
share and it would put a damper on BMP's recently launched
gold based format on KKLB. Well, not much of a damper since
the signal doesn't cover most of the austin area. I wonder
if this has anything to do with BMP hiring a former
Grupo Acir employee as it's operations manager?
CC could also entertain the idea of using their VIVA format
for KPEZ. Is it billing well in Atlanta?
> Will not happen. Houston is not a confirmed win, and is not
> billing. Albuquerque is a true disaster, and they will be
> changing it soon. Denver is so-so, and Miami billing is off
> by over 70% from the former format.
Micki Gamez, KHFI daytimer, was part of the original air staff
for Mega in Denver. She can assist in the launch of Mega in
Austin. Just a thought.
> The Hurban format is not doing that well for Clear in the 4
> markets they are in with it. On the other hand, there is
> considerable talk about La Preciosa PD Alex Lucas being seen
> in Austin to complete a shift to the La Peciosa format out
> of CA in early January. The Preciosa format is working for
> CCU in many markets, including Dallas where it is #2 Spanish
> format after only 2 months.
If this is true, it could put a dent into KHHL's market
share and it would put a damper on BMP's recently launched
gold based format on KKLB. Well, not much of a damper since
the signal doesn't cover most of the austin area. I wonder
if this has anything to do with BMP hiring a former
Grupo Acir employee as it's operations manager?
CC could also entertain the idea of using their VIVA format
for KPEZ. Is it billing well in Atlanta?
> Will not happen. Houston is not a confirmed win, and is not
> billing. Albuquerque is a true disaster, and they will be
> changing it soon. Denver is so-so, and Miami billing is off
> by over 70% from the former format.
Micki Gamez, KHFI daytimer, was part of the original air staff
for Mega in Denver. She can assist in the launch of Mega in
Austin. Just a thought.
Re: Cover up?
> I wonder
> if this has anything to do with BMP hiring a former
> Grupo Acir employee as it's operations manager?
Bob Perry? Bob consults both Clear Channel in Mexico and works for Border in the US.
>
>
> Micki Gamez, KHFI daytimer, was part of the original air
> staff
> for Mega in Denver. She can assist in the launch of Mega in
>
> Austin.
I really doubt there will be any more Megas until Cleaar sees if there is a market for them. So far, they have failed to generate any revenue, and are losing money like mad. Albuquerque Clear staff are saying that the end is near.
The Viva format, which is just a pop and regional hybrid (Tigrillos and Juanes back to back), has tanked in Tucson and only works in Atlanta because it is the only FM game in town.
> I wonder
> if this has anything to do with BMP hiring a former
> Grupo Acir employee as it's operations manager?
Bob Perry? Bob consults both Clear Channel in Mexico and works for Border in the US.
>
>
> Micki Gamez, KHFI daytimer, was part of the original air
> staff
> for Mega in Denver. She can assist in the launch of Mega in
>
> Austin.
I really doubt there will be any more Megas until Cleaar sees if there is a market for them. So far, they have failed to generate any revenue, and are losing money like mad. Albuquerque Clear staff are saying that the end is near.
The Viva format, which is just a pop and regional hybrid (Tigrillos and Juanes back to back), has tanked in Tucson and only works in Atlanta because it is the only FM game in town.
> Austin's first 24/7 full market Christian AC
It's actually a pretty smart move. 102.3 hasn't been doing anything since the staff got run off in 1992-93. KLTY in Dallas has done very well for Salem. It's an untapped psyche-graphic for Austin radio, KNLE notwithstanding.
People who buy christian radio don't look at ratings. The religion industry is actually pretty big. It's a virgin market. for CC, and could open up a whole new cookie cutter star system format for our favorite media congolmerate.
It's actually a pretty smart move. 102.3 hasn't been doing anything since the staff got run off in 1992-93. KLTY in Dallas has done very well for Salem. It's an untapped psyche-graphic for Austin radio, KNLE notwithstanding.
People who buy christian radio don't look at ratings. The religion industry is actually pretty big. It's a virgin market. for CC, and could open up a whole new cookie cutter star system format for our favorite media congolmerate.
La Preciosa 102.3
I agree with David. I think the format wheel will land on La Preciosa. This format has been popping up all over and it seems to be doing well. As for Bob Perry he's also the consultant for BMP here in San Antonio. I would imagine he's also the consultant for the other BMP stations in Texas.
I agree with David. I think the format wheel will land on La Preciosa. This format has been popping up all over and it seems to be doing well. As for Bob Perry he's also the consultant for BMP here in San Antonio. I would imagine he's also the consultant for the other BMP stations in Texas.
Re: Cover up?
> Bob Perry? Bob consults both Clear Channel in Mexico and
> works for Border in the US.
Yes. They hired Jason Kane, former Austin operations manager
of Clear Channel and regional vice president of programming,
a few months ago. He was recently let go. They now have
their sites set on a former Grupo Acir employee to run their
Austin operations. They've been shuffling staff recently.
Back to the CC programming spanish-language roulette wheel, CC
also has Que Suave in Tuscon. There's another programming
option for them. But, according to the ratings it isn't
doing so well. Preciosa and Mega are indeed the most logical
moves to make. Either way, it will be interesting to see how the
other spanish-language radio outlets will respond to a new
entrant in the market. Will we see more staff shakedowns in the
coming months? Or, will there be any interesting programming shifts
from any of the players in the market?
> Bob Perry? Bob consults both Clear Channel in Mexico and
> works for Border in the US.
Yes. They hired Jason Kane, former Austin operations manager
of Clear Channel and regional vice president of programming,
a few months ago. He was recently let go. They now have
their sites set on a former Grupo Acir employee to run their
Austin operations. They've been shuffling staff recently.
Back to the CC programming spanish-language roulette wheel, CC
also has Que Suave in Tuscon. There's another programming
option for them. But, according to the ratings it isn't
doing so well. Preciosa and Mega are indeed the most logical
moves to make. Either way, it will be interesting to see how the
other spanish-language radio outlets will respond to a new
entrant in the market. Will we see more staff shakedowns in the
coming months? Or, will there be any interesting programming shifts
from any of the players in the market?
Re: Cover up?
> Back to the CC programming spanish-language roulette wheel,
> CC
> also has Que Suave in Tuscon. There's another programming
> option for them.
They changed Que Suave to Viva two years ago. The AC, under Rick Thomas, had around a 3 share. Now it is about half that with the owful Viva format. Very likely we see Preciosa there and soon.
: But, according to the ratings it isn't
> doing so well. Preciosa and Mega are indeed the most
> logical
> moves to make.
Mega is not working, billing wise, anywhere. They are off 75% in both Miami and Houston, and losing money. Albuqueque is changing format soon. Denver is questionable, as no revenue.
> Either way, it will be interesting to see
> how the
> other spanish-language radio outlets will respond to a new
> entrant in the market. Will we see more staff shakedowns in
> the
> coming months? Or, will there be any interesting programming
> shifts
> from any of the players in the market?
The only option for CCU in Austin is Preciosa. The only know how to do two formats, and only make money on one of them. Interestingly, the succe3ssful format is a rip off and a copy. The unsuccessful one they invented insofar as using it in the continental US.
>
> Back to the CC programming spanish-language roulette wheel,
> CC
> also has Que Suave in Tuscon. There's another programming
> option for them.
They changed Que Suave to Viva two years ago. The AC, under Rick Thomas, had around a 3 share. Now it is about half that with the owful Viva format. Very likely we see Preciosa there and soon.
: But, according to the ratings it isn't
> doing so well. Preciosa and Mega are indeed the most
> logical
> moves to make.
Mega is not working, billing wise, anywhere. They are off 75% in both Miami and Houston, and losing money. Albuqueque is changing format soon. Denver is questionable, as no revenue.
> Either way, it will be interesting to see
> how the
> other spanish-language radio outlets will respond to a new
> entrant in the market. Will we see more staff shakedowns in
> the
> coming months? Or, will there be any interesting programming
> shifts
> from any of the players in the market?
The only option for CCU in Austin is Preciosa. The only know how to do two formats, and only make money on one of them. Interestingly, the succe3ssful format is a rip off and a copy. The unsuccessful one they invented insofar as using it in the continental US.
>
Re: La Preciosa 102.3
> I agree with David. I think the format wheel will land on
> La Preciosa. This format has been popping up all over and
> it seems to be doing well. As for Bob Perry he's also the
> consultant for BMP here in San Antonio. I would imagine
> he's also the consultant for the other BMP stations in
> Texas.
Bob consultas BMP in the US, and Clear Channel in Mexico (Clear controls Grupo ACIR there). In Mexico, they do AC and Pop as Spanish music formats... both of which are pretty dead formats in the USA among Hispanics. The other Mexican FMs Bob deals with are English music formats.
>
> I agree with David. I think the format wheel will land on
> La Preciosa. This format has been popping up all over and
> it seems to be doing well. As for Bob Perry he's also the
> consultant for BMP here in San Antonio. I would imagine
> he's also the consultant for the other BMP stations in
> Texas.
Bob consultas BMP in the US, and Clear Channel in Mexico (Clear controls Grupo ACIR there). In Mexico, they do AC and Pop as Spanish music formats... both of which are pretty dead formats in the USA among Hispanics. The other Mexican FMs Bob deals with are English music formats.
>
Re: Cover up?
> Mega is not working, billing wise, anywhere. They are off
> 75% in both Miami and Houston, and losing money. Albuqueque
> is changing format soon. Denver is questionable, as no
> revenue.
How is La Calle doing in San Antonio? I know they recently offered
current KBBT middayer John Medina a 3 year contract to program the
station.
> The only option for CCU in Austin is Preciosa. The only know
> how to do two formats, and only make money on one of them.
> Interestingly, the succe3ssful format is a rip off and a
> copy. The unsuccessful one they invented insofar as using it
> in the continental US.
I assume you are refering to Recuerdo as the originator? Where
was the first Recuerdo?
> Mega is not working, billing wise, anywhere. They are off
> 75% in both Miami and Houston, and losing money. Albuqueque
> is changing format soon. Denver is questionable, as no
> revenue.
How is La Calle doing in San Antonio? I know they recently offered
current KBBT middayer John Medina a 3 year contract to program the
station.
> The only option for CCU in Austin is Preciosa. The only know
> how to do two formats, and only make money on one of them.
> Interestingly, the succe3ssful format is a rip off and a
> copy. The unsuccessful one they invented insofar as using it
> in the continental US.
I assume you are refering to Recuerdo as the originator? Where
was the first Recuerdo?
Re: La Preciosa 102.3
> Bob consultas BMP in the US, and Clear Channel in Mexico
> (Clear controls Grupo ACIR there). In Mexico, they do AC and
> Pop as Spanish music formats... both of which are pretty
> dead formats in the USA among Hispanics. The other Mexican
> FMs Bob deals with are English music formats.
The U.S. spanish pop stations will have an interesting time
next year. When you think that all their major artists have
already released product this year. Are there any Reik's, Yuridia's
and RBD's out there for next year? Let's hope, at least for them,
that La Oreja de Van Gogh, Enrigue Iglesias, Mana and Belinda have stellar
comebacks. Or, that there are more break out artists.
> Bob consultas BMP in the US, and Clear Channel in Mexico
> (Clear controls Grupo ACIR there). In Mexico, they do AC and
> Pop as Spanish music formats... both of which are pretty
> dead formats in the USA among Hispanics. The other Mexican
> FMs Bob deals with are English music formats.
The U.S. spanish pop stations will have an interesting time
next year. When you think that all their major artists have
already released product this year. Are there any Reik's, Yuridia's
and RBD's out there for next year? Let's hope, at least for them,
that La Oreja de Van Gogh, Enrigue Iglesias, Mana and Belinda have stellar
comebacks. Or, that there are more break out artists.
Re: Cover up?
>
> How is La Calle doing in San Antonio? I know they recently
> offered
> current KBBT middayer John Medina a 3 year contract to
> program the
> station.
Kalle in SA is doing well, but the cluster knows how to sell the demo as they have one of America's most successful hip hop stations, The Beat, which is #2 in local billing, amazing for a hip hop format. And Kalle is NOT Hurban, it is reggaetón, and does not sound like the Clear Channel mega stations at all.
>
>
> > The only option for CCU in Austin is Preciosa. The only
> know
> > how to do two formats, and only make money on one of them.
>
> > Interestingly, the succe3ssful format is a rip off and a
> > copy. The unsuccessful one they invented insofar as using
> it
> > in the continental US.
>
> I assume you are refering to Recuerdo as the originator?
> Where
> was the first Recuerdo?
LA, February, 2000. Currently, there are Recuerdos in Dallas, McAllen, Phoenix, Fresno and the same format, different name, in Chicago.
>
>
> How is La Calle doing in San Antonio? I know they recently
> offered
> current KBBT middayer John Medina a 3 year contract to
> program the
> station.
Kalle in SA is doing well, but the cluster knows how to sell the demo as they have one of America's most successful hip hop stations, The Beat, which is #2 in local billing, amazing for a hip hop format. And Kalle is NOT Hurban, it is reggaetón, and does not sound like the Clear Channel mega stations at all.
>
>
> > The only option for CCU in Austin is Preciosa. The only
> know
> > how to do two formats, and only make money on one of them.
>
> > Interestingly, the succe3ssful format is a rip off and a
> > copy. The unsuccessful one they invented insofar as using
> it
> > in the continental US.
>
> I assume you are refering to Recuerdo as the originator?
> Where
> was the first Recuerdo?
LA, February, 2000. Currently, there are Recuerdos in Dallas, McAllen, Phoenix, Fresno and the same format, different name, in Chicago.
>
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