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[mrtejano]

Is now on air as H&I showing a old movie looks like either 70s or 80s movie.

 

[purpledevil]

Hey, thanks for the tip, Señor. A quick rescan yields Heroes & Icons on KPRC 2.3. One good tip deserves another. Punch in 15.8 if you can, and you can since you're right down 45 from me. It recently became The Family Channel, and shows older movies and tv shows. Saw an episode of BJ & the Bear last night. It has been a long, long time since I've seen it on television...probably 20 years or more.

Edit to add: Oh..and for some reason Comet is missing from KUBE. I usually have problems picking up 57, but it's coming in well enough to pick up tonight. I thought Comet was supposed to be on 57.6, but there is no .6 at all. There is also a new 57.5 as it has apparently ditched the color bars for Viene Vision.

 

[DJboutit3]

H&I looks to be playing crappy 80s tv shows movies so another channel like Cozi and Antenna TV kinda lame

 

[K.M. Richards]

H&I looks to be playing crappy 80s tv shows movies so another channel like Cozi and Antenna TV kinda lame

Hill Street Blues (every night, 9pm ET/6pm PT) is "crappy"? It was one of the most well-written drama series of the 1980s.

And some of us find the retro channels far from "lame". They are quite entertaining when one wants a dose of nostalgia. But, let me guess ... you're under 50 years of age, aren't you?

 

[davideduardo]

Hill Street Blues (every night, 9pm ET/6pm PT) is "crappy"? It was one of the most well-written drama series of the 1980s.

And some of us find the retro channels far from "lame". They are quite entertaining when one wants a dose of nostalgia. But, let me guess ... you're under 50 years of age, aren't you?

Hill Street Blues along with others such as St. Elsewhere and The Paper Chase are a few examples of very well written, produced and acted series from that era.

I am guessing that the slower pace of action and the lack of special effects makes these dramas and those of their kind seem "old fashioned" to some, but they are very well worth revisiting occasionally today.

 

[DJboutit3]

Hill Street Blues (every night, 9pm ET/6pm PT) is "crappy"? It was one of the most well-written drama series of the 1980s.

And some of us find the retro channels far from "lame". They are quite entertaining when one wants a dose of nostalgia. But, let me guess ... you're under 50 years of age, aren't you?

There is already 7 of them there way to many channels that play 70s to early 90s tv shows already

 

[landtuna]

There is already 7 of them there way to many channels that play 70s to early 90s tv shows already

No one is forcing you to watch. As someone who grew up during the Golden Age of Television I appreciate the old retro shows. We had actors who had more than 15 minutes of fame and could actually act. We had writers that could put together interesting stories instead of depending upon CGI and gunfights. We had Westerns which are not on the air any longer - and variety shows, also missing from today's line-up.

I have said it often - it is a damn shame we now have the technology for surround sound and great picture quality and nothing of value to show. I will gladly watch a semi-blurry black and white oldie and enjoy the hell out of it just as I did when it first aired 60 years ago.

 

[purpledevil]

No one is forcing you to watch. As someone who grew up during the Golden Age of Television I appreciate the old retro shows. We had actors who had more than 15 minutes of fame and could actually act. We had writers that could put together interesting stories instead of depending upon CGI and gunfights. We had Westerns which are not on the air any longer - and variety shows, also missing from today's line-up.

I have said it often - it is a damn shame we now have the technology for surround sound and great picture quality and nothing of value to show. I will gladly watch a semi-blurry black and white oldie and enjoy the hell out of it just as I did when it first aired 60 years ago.

A big thumbs up to you for this post, tuna. Well stated.

 

[K.M. Richards]

There is already 7 of them there way to many channels that play 70s to early 90s tv shows already

As landtuna says, no one is making you watch.

Try looking at this from a different perspective: If those retro channels weren't successful by some meaningful measure -- viewership, cost vs. revenue, etc. -- would media companies create even more of them? I guarantee you that they don't do it just to irritate you.

These channels are relatively inexpensive to program. As an example, note that Cozi, which is owned by Comcast NBC Universal, has drawn and continues to draw a large percentage of their schedule from shows in the Universal library: Simon & Simon, Dragnet, Adam-12, Quantum Leap, The Munsters, Run For Your Life, The Name Of The Game, The Bionic Woman, The Six Million Dollar Man, McMillan And Wife, McCloud, The Bold Ones, Banacek, Magnum P.I., Knight Rider, Miami Vice, Murder She Wrote ... all of them have aired or are airing on Cozi, and every one of them resides in the Universal Studios vault, and Cozi gets them for little more than the cost of making fresh digital copies from the masters.

Continuing to take Cozi as an example, when it comes time to negotiate the carriage agreements with cable and satellite providers, the owned-and-operated NBC stations can insist on Cozi being carried in addition to their main signal. And as more and more of those agreements get that carriage inserted, NBC suddenly has a second place to sell commercials ... or at the very least, somewhere they can offer bonus spots for advertisers on the main network (value-added time buys).

And even those shows on Cozi that Comcast NBC Universal doesn't own are available relatively cheap, because there is practically no demand at the local station level for these shows ... what non-network time is available at the station level is filled with reality shows, talk shows, and off-network reruns that are rarely older than five or six years since their network airings.

You may ask yourself why these retro diginets don't carry newer programs. The answer is an extension of the previous paragraph's discussion: The newest shows, if they aren't locked into exclusive agreements to air on cable networks immediately after their network runs, tend to be the ones the local stations gravitate to if they're going to air off-network reruns at all. Once they've aged a little, they tend to go back on the cable nets for several years, because cable is likely to pay more than the broadcast diginets for them. A program pretty much needs to be older than 15 years before it is no longer in demand by the national cable nets and the local stations for the price-per-play to drop (or, in some cases, drop to a flat rate with unlimited plays).

So, while I defend your right to watch whatever you want, I also defend the rights of others who apparently want to watch these shows in sufficient numbers to make these channels viable. On that basis, I politely ask you to give it a rest.

 

[purpledevil]

I like you a lot more when you play nice with others, K.M. Very eloquent, my California neighbor. I might add that replacing the old shows with newer ones on TV Land and Game Show...er, GSN..ran a large swath of our loyal generation away. Having the same occur to Antenna, Buzzr, Cozi, MeTV, etc., at this juncture of each one's short life on air, would be a complete travesty.

 

[K.M. Richards]

I like you a lot more when you play nice with others, K.M. Very eloquent, my California neighbor. I might add that replacing the old shows with newer ones on TV Land and Game Show...er, GSN..ran a large swath of our loyal generation away. Having the same occur to Antenna, Buzzr, Cozi, MeTV, etc., at this juncture of each one's short life on air, would be a complete travesty.

I thank you, sir. I admit that sometimes posts set me off ranting ... usually when circular arguments are concerned.

I've already seen a slight shift on Antenna TV with the addition of Newhart and Evening Shade to the schedule this past year. I think I'd draw a line in the sand around the time Murphy Brown originally aired, although even then I'd have to define a mid-point in the series where it's too new, as it ran ten years (1988-1998). Maybe early 1995, when the Miller Redfield character became a regular, rather than recurring, character.

Now, if either H&I or Cozi would resurrect reruns of The Equalizer from the Universal vault ...

For the record: Newhart aired from 1982 to 1990 and Evening Shade from 1990 to 1994.