If approved, it will greatly improve their coverage in North County, where reception of 93.3 has always been less than great.
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Channel 93.3 Files to Move to La Jolla
- Thread starter Ryan Williams
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They have? Nothing is on file
I don't think KGB/101.5 would be allowed to move to La Jolla (Mt. Soledad), because K-LOVE/102.1 is already there. I don't believe you can have two full-power FM stations on the same mountain less than four channels apart. And you can't slide KGB to 101.3 on Soledad because they'd be short-spaced with KFBG/100.7 (also on Mt. Soledad) and would interfere with KATY/101.3 in Idyllwild about 90 miles away.
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KGB 101.5 and KLVJ 102.1 are already short spaced. 102.1 used to transmit up in Encinitas CA and move to Mt. Soledad in 2008. I think it's possible to put 101.5 and 102.1 in the same area. Look at Philadelphia that they are able to have 97.5 WPEN and 98.1 WOGL transmitt in the same location even they are 3 spaces apart.
so no ones answered yet... they have filed something? I looked and didnt see anything.
because boosters can be a pain in the ass to maintain and if they go awry, they can do more damage then good.
Those boosters in the North County have done nothing to improve the reception of 97.3 in Carlsbad and Oceanside. Still a lot of static on my car and home radio and no HD lock. To be fair, when I was driving around Escondido and San Marcos earlier today, the signal was great with an HD lock. But, 97.3 dropping the planned signal boosters in Oceanside was a mistake because where I live, the signal has not improved. The only viable option for the Padres to get full market coverage is to partner with one of the big AM stations like they used to be on the Mighty 1090, AM 600 KOGO or a better FM signal like KYXY 96.5 FM. The boosters on 97.3 is like putting lipstick on a pig: it’s still a bad signal all around!!
I believe XHMORE/98.9 is on Cerro Colorado, not Mount San Antonio.
I don't think so. KGB/101.5 and KLVJ 102.1 transmit from different locations many miles apart. 101.5's tower is in Oak Park. 102.1 is on Mt. Soledad, on other side of the city. When 102.1 moved to Soledad around 2008, that effectively prevented 101.5 from moving to Soledad.
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101.5 KGB and 102.1 KLVJ are grandfather shortspacing. Distance between Class B from 3 adjacent channel is 41 miles apart. Distance between 101.5 and 102.1 tower is about 12 miles/19.5 km apart. Since both stations are grandfather and short space from each other. Technical they both can be transmitting at the same tower.
I don't think so. I'm almost certain full-power Class B stations (like 101.5 and 102.1) need to be at least four channels apart if they're on the same tower or mountain. That's the case everywhere in California. If I'm wrong, give me a real-world example.
Yes, KHTS filed to move to Soledad. Just saw it on FCCInfo.com. 29kw ERP, 650 ft HAAT. And they'd be on the KFMB-TV tower. That mast is called the quadzilla because it already has four other FM's on it. Didn't think they had room left for another. Unless they're going to diplex with an existing antenna.
The FCC grandfathering rule doesn't specify class. Any station that was short-spaced prior to the adoption of the current spacing tables in 1964 can move without regard to third- or second-adjacent spacing to another pre-1964 grandfathered station. There are lots of examples in California of pre-1964 short-spacing - almost all the class As in the LA basin are significantly short to their second-adjacent class B neighbors, with 107.1 Arcadia/107.5 LA probably the closest pair.
In this case, since 102.1 (KUDE-FM, then) and 101.5 were licensed and operating short-spaced in 1964, they have no requirement to protect each other. That's the only way 102.1 got to Soledad in the first place. Here's the rule:
§ 73.213 Grandfathered short-spaced stations.
(a) Stations at locations authorized prior to November 16, 1964, that did not meet the separation distances required by § 73.207 and have remained continuously short-spaced since that time may be modified or relocated with respect to such short-spaced stations, provided that (i) any area predicted to receive interference lies completely within any area currently predicted to receive co-channel or first-adjacent channel interference as calculated in accordance with paragraph (a)(1) of this section, or that (ii) a showing is provided pursuant to paragraph (a)(2) of this section that demonstrates that the public interest would be served by the proposed changes.
Great info, Mr. Fybush. I didn't know about those rules. Still, wouldn't two Class B's on the *same* tower or mountain have to be at least four channels apart? In your L.A. example 107.1 is a Class A many miles from (and hundreds of feet below) 107.5 on Mt. Wilson.
Yet when 107.1 had a "casualty" at its location on the slope up to the Mt Wilson peak, it operated from the "Wilson" site with reduced power for a while. Of course, keep in mind that that whole mountain range is a series of relatively small humps and peaks... or terrain variations... which have been given their own name.
My "own" mountain is indistinguishable from surrounding ones except for some lower points in a long ridge.
https://www.summitpost.org/mount-gleason/304677
Found this on recradio.net website when I type in KSSX.
"Accepted on channel 239-B by Mexico in 11/29/2010 letter as a restricted allotment limited to 20 kW ERP and 218.2 m HAAT or the equivalent along the azimuths of 120 deg to 159 deg azimuth to protect channel 238-B(N), Ensenada, BN. Cleared at coordinates 32 50 21 NL, 117 14 57 WL. See BLH-20070703AAE for original comment."
https://fccdata.org/?call=KSSX&facid=&city=&state=&ccode=1&country=US
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