Charlie Manning to replace Rush on WRKO

[Don Juan]

My observation and criticism stands.

Even though your assumptions have been proven wrong?

Why has RKO never considered having a Democratic operative co-host a show? Is a Democratic operative just not as "entertaining" as a Republican operative??

Let's say you have a bar with a folk group playing, that is well known and brining people in the door. They leave. Do you go out and hire a polka band? No you try to find another folk group to retain what audience you have and try to build on it.

The same with RKO. They lost Limbaugh. Do they want to chase every 12-3 listener away they have and start building an audience all over again? No, give the listeners a reason to stay on WRKO, with a potential to bring more people into the station.

Just logic....not a vast Right Wing Conspiracy. ;-)

Please do not tell me that station owners and managers are not operating from a political idoelogical bias. It's perfectly obvious that that is EXACTLY what they are doing.

Please see the explanation above. Did you see any partsan reasoning on what I presented? No just good business and logic.

Please get off the conspiracy theories.

BTW...Why WOULD they hire a Liberal, when they are failing so badly at WWZN?

That wouldn't be good logic or make business sense, would it! ;-)

 

[Smoke]

A liberal is only good on talk radio when paired with a conservative. Except maybe Randi Rhodes.

Considering NYC gets many new celeb-hosts with no radio experience, we should be grateful to get someone with some.

 

[DToTheJ]

A liberal is only good on talk radio when paired with a conservative. Except maybe Randi Rhodes.

Don't forget Jerry Springer!

 

[Garrett]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100302wrko_bumps_rush_limbaugh_for_charley_manning/

What a misleading Heslam headline. It makes it sound as if WRKO was expunging Rush Limbaugh, when in fact, it's Clear Channel yanking their cash cow away from WRKO.

Ah, but WRKO is letting them take him without a fight. Wasn't there some kind of contract? I thought that was the controversy, with reports that Rush wouldn't be on until the contract is out. The fact that WRKO is just letting CC take him, is, in a way, an "expunging."

"Save RKO fans" everywhere are partying, I'm sure. But not for long, because Rush gets the ratings. I can think of no faster way to make a station an overnight success, than to do what CC is doing, so give them credit.

 

[FPB]

Let's say you have a bar with a folk group playing, that is well known and brining people in the door. They leave. Do you go out and hire a polka band? No you try to find another folk group to retain what audience you have and try to build on it.

The same with RKO. They lost Limbaugh. Do they want to chase every 12-3 listener away they have and start building an audience all over again? No, give the listeners a reason to stay on WRKO, with a potential to bring more people into the station.

Please see the explanation above. Did you see any partsan reasoning on what I presented? No just good business and logic.

Please get off the conspiracy theories.

BTW...Why WOULD they hire a Liberal, when they are failing so badly at WWZN?

That wouldn't be good logic or make business sense, would it! ;-)
[/quote]


No, thre is no partisan reasoning in your example as you presented it.

But there IS partisan reasoning on the part of RKO. As the article stated, Limbaugh was placing 18th in this city. So Limbaugh has not been, as you say, bringing people in the door. RKO in fact IS attemting to build an audience all over again.

I am not advocating that they hire a liberal (And where is your evidence that 'wzn is failing? By what barometer can you PROVE that?). RKO has every right to hire as they please. My concern is WHY they are doing what they're doing. And I don't accept that it's mearly business. They could take any direction they want, and if they weren't PARTISAN, they might very well have found a different and more refreshing answer to their current REAL problem of dwindling listeners.

 

[Uncle Kaimbridge]

I hear LIONEL is available! ;D :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_(radio_personality)

 

[WFNERBSHX]

I'm a little surprised 'RKO didn't try to pair Manning with his frequent sparring partner, Democratic strategist Mary Anne Marsh. I think that both are very good and compelling when playing off each other, just as Manning was good with Michael Goldman during the Spin Doctors years.

I understand the folk to polka analogy, but I'm not convinced that Manning will do well going solo. Time will tell, I guess.

 

[Deleted User]

someone over on savewrko dot com's message section mentioned her name and how she'd be silly to take time out of a lucrative consulting gig do work for what radio pays these days.

 

[Don Juan]

No, thre is no partisan reasoning in your example as you presented it.
But there IS partisan reasoning on the part of RKO.

Because you can read their mind and know their intentions? Such a talent!

As the article stated, Limbaugh was placing 18th in this city. So Limbaugh has not been, as you say, bringing people in the door. RKO in fact IS attempting to build an audience all over again.

Wrong.

Do you know how many people 18th place brings in? (BTW...that's 25-54, and their numbers are much higher if you add 55+) There are a lot of people listening to Limbaugh, and since they won't have the $$ to promote a new host, they have to hang onto those people (and their listening habits) and build upon it.

I am not advocating that they hire a liberal (And where is your evidence that 'wzn is failing? By what barometer can you PROVE that?).

They have shown they even care about winning by a.) purchasing time on a multilingual station, a plan which does not depend on having any listeners. and b.) not encoding for PPM & Arbitron, which shows they don't care if anyone is listening.

RKO has every right to hire as they please. My concern is WHY they are doing what they're doing. And I don't accept that it's mearly business.

Conspiracy theories abound! People believe what they want to believe...even without facts.

I think it's hard for partisans (like you) to believe that there are people who are not partisan at all.

 

[FPB]

My observation and criticism stands.

Even though your assumptions have been proven wrong?

Why has RKO never considered having a Democratic operative co-host a show? Is a Democratic operative just not as "entertaining" as a Republican operative??

Let's say you have a bar with a folk group playing, that is well known and brining people in the door. They leave. Do you go out and hire a polka band? No you try to find another folk group to retain what audience you have and try to build on it.

The same with RKO. They lost Limbaugh. Do they want to chase every 12-3 listener away they have and start building an audience all over again? No, give the listeners a reason to stay on WRKO, with a potential to bring more people into the station.

Just logic....not a vast Right Wing Conspiracy. ;-)

Please do not tell me that station owners and managers are not operating from a political idoelogical bias. It's perfectly obvious that that is EXACTLY what they are doing.

Please see the explanation above. Did you see any partsan reasoning on what I presented? No just good business and logic.

Please get off the conspiracy theories.

BTW...Why WOULD they hire a Liberal, when they are failing so badly at WWZN?

That wouldn't be good logic or make business sense, would it! ;-)

latently
Let me also remind you of Entercom's quoted statement in the article:
>Jason Wolfe, New England vice president of AM programming at Entercom Communications Corp., which owns >WRKO and WEEI. "Charley Manning brings top-notch insight and great credibility to us at a time when Boston >politics are so intense and top of mind.''

What in this statement reflects purely business concerns?

Where does it talk about Audience?
Where does it talk about product?
Where does it talk about ratings and advertising?

What part of this POLITCAL statement do you not see as politcial?

You try to hang the "conspiracy theory"noose around my neck, but I didn't say this, Jason Wolf of Entercom said it. The station is interested in Charley Manning because they feel he could be instrumental in effecting polical outcomes. It's as blatently politcal as you could possibly ask for.

 

[FPB]

I think it's hard for partisans (like you) to believe that there are people who are not partisan at all.

When it comes to POLITCAL TALK, how is anyone NOT partisan?? Why do you beleive that people making decisions concerning POLITICAL TALK are not allowing their own biases to play a roll in how they make those decisions?

How can someone NOT be partisan and NEVER give full consideration to ALL SIDES of an arguement?

How can a non-partisan programmer NEVER say at some point, "Gee this conservative guy was pretty interesting. Maybe now a progressive guy might be interesting as well", or "Ya know, this conservative guy was doing pretty good in the ratings, but he's been faltering. Maybe now someone with a different point of view might do better"?

If you're not partisan, that sort of thinking is VERY possible. If you ARE partisan, that sort of thinking becomes IMPOSSIBLE, because A PERSON WHO IS PARTISAN *WILL NEVER* WELCOME a different viewpoint, no matter how intersting he may be, even if that person with a different viewpoint MIGHT POSSIBLY be an answer to a ratings problem.

 

[Don Juan]

Let me also remind you of Entercom's quoted statement in the article:
>Jason Wolfe, New England vice president of AM programming at Entercom Communications Corp., which owns >WRKO and WEEI. "Charley Manning brings top-notch insight and great credibility to us at a time when Boston >politics are so intense and top of mind.''What in this statement reflects purely business concerns?

All of it.

Where does it talk about Audience?

All of it.

Where does it talk about product?

All of it.

Where does it talk about ratings and advertising?

All of it.

What part of this POLITCAL statement do you not see as politcial?

None of it.

You try to hang the "conspiracy theory"noose around my neck, but I didn't say this, Jason Wolf of Entercom said it.

Yet you interpret it through the eyes of a conspiracy theorist who thinks there is a devious motive behind everything.

The station is interested in Charley Manning because they feel he could be instrumental in effecting polical outcomes.

Because you can read their minds, and know their secret motivations! Such a talent!

It's as [sic]blatently[sic] politcal as you could possibly ask for.

Please seek professional help.

I think it's hard for partisans (like you) to believe that there are people who are not partisan at all.

When it comes to POLITCAL TALK, how is anyone NOT partisan??

Because people who own these stations want to make money regardless...and could care less about "effecting [sic] polical outcomes".

 

[FPB]

Let me also remind you of Entercom's quoted statement in the article:
>Jason Wolfe, New England vice president of AM programming at Entercom Communications Corp., which owns >WRKO and WEEI. "Charley Manning brings top-notch insight and great credibility to us at a time when Boston >politics are so intense and top of mind.''What in this statement reflects purely business concerns?

All of it.

Where does it talk about Audience?

All of it.

Where does it talk about product?

All of it.

Where does it talk about ratings and advertising?

All of it.

What part of this POLITCAL statement do you not see as politcial?

None of it.

You try to hang the "conspiracy theory"noose around my neck, but I didn't say this, Jason Wolf of Entercom said it.

Yet you interpret it through the eyes of a conspiracy theorist who thinks there is a devious motive behind everything.

The station is interested in Charley Manning because they feel he could be instrumental in effecting polical outcomes.

Because you can read their minds, and know their secret motivations! Such a talent!

It's as [sic]blatently[sic] politcal as you could possibly ask for.

Please seek professional help.

I think it's hard for partisans (like you) to believe that there are people who are not partisan at all.

When it comes to POLITCAL TALK, how is anyone NOT partisan??

Because people who own these stations want to make money regardless...and could care less about "effecting [sic] polical outcomes".

Thank you for closing your mind and not listening

 

[Don Juan]

Thank you for closing your mind and not listening

...says the man who clings to conspiracy theories.

;-)

 

[FPB]

Thank you for closing your mind and not listening

...says the man who clings to conspiracy theories.

;-)

A closed mind and name-calling tells me that I've reached some truth that you refuse to acknowledge.


I offer you the following statement of intent from Revolution Boston:
RevolutionBoston is Boston’s new media platform for CHANGE and NEW IDEAS in this important time in history. With the election of Barack Obama, the United States voted for a new direction, and revolutionBoston is the new voice for that change in Boston. revolutionBoston fills a void in the Boston media landscape and is the NEW VOICE for progressive ideas that make a difference in people’s lives."

And again, for comparison, Jason Wolf's statement:
. "Charley Manning brings top-notch insight and great credibility to us at a time when Boston politics are so intense and top of mind.''

The political nature of Wolf's statement is AT LEAST equal of that of RevolutionBoston. EQUAL They both express political agendas. EQUAL

The above statement from Revolution Boston is PRECISELY the sort of thing conservatives in radio FAULT progrsssive talk over, USING such statements as proof that progressive talk is too ideological, too agenda-driven and not business-oriented.

But when we see conservatives make EXACTLY THE SAME SORT OF STATEMENT, it's defended as "logical business sense".

How very stupid..

 

[Don Juan]

Thank you for closing your mind and not listening

...says the man who clings to conspiracy theories.

;-)

A closed mind and name-calling tells me that I've reached some truth that you refuse to acknowledge.

Wrong. You claim to be able to read the minds and know the motivations of others. That's not "truth".

You also appear to believe that all the media companies get together in a big room and secretly decide how to convince all their listeners to turn into conservatives. That's a conspiracy theory.

How very stupid..

You're telling me? LOL

And again, for comparison, Jason Wolf's statement:
. "Charley Manning brings top-notch insight and great credibility to us at a time when Boston politics are so intense and top of mind.''

So what?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar my dear friend.

 

[raccoonradio]

RKO's facebook says Sen Brown & Gov Patrick will be on the very first Charley Manning show on Monday
(for some reason I guess Deval never wanted to go on Howie's show, though). RKO website is now free
of any mention of Limbaugh, as next wk's sched is posted...no more "Rush bio" page, etc.

Q:Why will Howie will walking slowly into the sneaker building on Monday?
A: Hey, no Rush...

 

[Deleted User]

any word as to who is producing Manning's hours?

Are they borrowing someone from the jock sniffing operation or are they dumping it on Nancy

 

[raccoonradio]

bostonradio had heard that J-pod from Planet Mikey would be doing double duty, his reg work plus
the Manning show. Not Eli or Payton but Charley