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Charlie Morgan out at Cumulus Indy

N_D_Radioguy: "Retribution?" For what? I made choices to advance my career, including leaving before I took a bullet on Shadeland. I avoided the carnage that came shortly after, and well before Cumulus purchased this operation.

I said in my posting that I wish the man no ill will, that no one should have to go through this. Charlie is a very likeable guy. Charlie, like most managers, has had to make a lot of hard choices along the way, including letting many people go. Most of his fans on this site think he is such a good guy that he could do no wrong. "Geeze People," he doesn't walk on water, leap tall buildings in a single bound, save stray cats, and have a plan for world peace. He's a likeable guy. A good programmer. A great face in the public.

The only thing personal I have, N-D-Radioguy, is an opinion that more good people than anyone here seems to want to admit had their worlds turned upside down. You were either part of the fraternity, or you weren't. So be it; that was the management philosophy. And now, he doesn't "fit" at Cumulus, and his firing is probably just as wrong. I think a person can learn from this; I think it can make you a better manager, make you appreciate the full impact on someone's life you have every day, as well as when you're thinking about pulling the trigger on letting someone go. That trigger was pulled a little too easy and often on Shadeland.

Radioho, shut up. A board like this gives everyone the right to their opinion, and that's fine. You, however, seem to have this bad habit of calling people out and slamming on them personally when you don't know a thing about them. Stop making it personal; you look stupid. Everyone has a right to an opinion on a subject as much as you on this board, but I don't stoop to namecalling. Pleeze.
 
Is there anybody who has been in radio for a while who HASN'T been fired? It comes with the territory. Maybe the people on Fall Creek want a new GM.
 
BobOnTheJob said:
While I'm still mad at him for nuking 104.5 The Bear 10 years ago, maybe he'll have a chance to redeem himself by bringing New Hit Country to a full power signal at another cluster.

I don't think he had a lot to do with these decisions as a manager.
 
mouseman said:
Radioho, shut up. A board like this gives everyone the right to their opinion, and that's fine. You, however, seem to have this bad habit of calling people out and slamming on them personally when you don't know a thing about them. Stop making it personal; you look stupid. Everyone has a right to an opinion on a subject as much as you on this board, but I don't stoop to namecalling. Pleeze.

you said a guy deserves to be fired because he had to fire people. That's a manager's role. If YOU write something stupid, yes I will call YOU out. Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it isn't stupid (to use your term). Sour grapes makes YOU look stupid. It shows you don't have much of a grasp of a manager's role, or radio in general.

If that offends you - it should.
 
Dear Radioho: I'll put nearly 30 years of experience in this business, many as a manager, some as a radio station owner, up against whatever experience you have that formulates your opinion.

Give it up on the "sour grapes" crap; I wasn't fired from this organization. But I personally know many who were, many who are successful elsewhere in our industry now, who weren't deemed a fit in this building. The trigger was pulled too often, in my humble opinion, on people who didn't deserve it.

The only thing that offends me is your arrogance, steeped in your ignorance. I wouldn't comment on something here unless I was fairly knowledgeable about it. You shoot your mouth off with little or no direct knowledge of the situation, or of me. Who looks stupid?
 
bigtime said:
Is there anybody who has been in radio for a while who HASN'T been fired? It comes with the territory. Maybe the people on Fall Creek want a new GM.

A wise person once told me "You've never made it in radio until you've been fired at least once."

Charlie, has only worked for ! station, so I guess he finally made it! ;D
 
mouseman said:
Give it up on the "sour grapes" crap; I wasn't fired from this organization. But I personally know many who were, many who are successful elsewhere in our industry now, who weren't deemed a fit in this building. The trigger was pulled too often, in my humble opinion, on people who didn't deserve it. Who looks stupid?

If the shoe fits...
 
Big Time - I've heard Clear Channel is pretty happy with their GM. Who's left? Entercom?
 
phillyfan89 said:
Big Time - I've heard Clear Channel is pretty happy with their GM. Who's left? Entercom?

::)

I understand the management there has great respect for Charlie.
 
Didn't CC ship their GM to Austin, TX about a year ago?

Charlie could also go right the ship at 107.1
 
CC Mgr. went to Entercom Norfolk. Doubtful he'll land @ 107.1.
 
radioho said:
mouseman said:
Give it up on the "sour grapes" crap; I wasn't fired from this organization. But I personally know many who were, many who are successful elsewhere in our industry now, who weren't deemed a fit in this building. The trigger was pulled too often, in my humble opinion, on people who didn't deserve it. Who looks stupid?

If the shoe fits...

Ho, I knew you were... oh never mind. I can't think of anything to say that won't be censored.
 
A lot of posts about Charlie's Market Manager years but what a great story. Started as a part-time jock on WFMS worked his way to successful stints in afternoons, mornings and then PD before becoming GM of WGLD and then Market Manager. Took on difficult choices including budget/staffing cuts as a pro (with more compassion than most). He's a radio nerd with the utmost respect for every department and believes in finding the right talent from the front desk to on-air from sales to summer crew. Mouseman is correct there are alot of pros who've moved on to find more success. They found an environment that was right for them. And as others have said, Charlie will land on his feet when he's presented with an opportunity that's fitting.
 
I'm one of the guys Charlie fired, and I still think he's one of the most brilliant radio managers I've ever had the fortune of working with. Cumulus just lost a ton of intellectual wealth.

Trapper
 
mouseman said:
N_D_Radioguy: "Retribution?" For what? I made choices to advance my career, including leaving before I took a bullet on Shadeland.

"Revenge" seemed too harsh and I didn't have a thesaurus handy, so I went with "retribution."

Maybe "recompence" was the way to go -- I grabbed a thesaurus -- since it's more of a "what goes around, comes around" vibe you have.

You say you don't wish him any ill will, but you do, at least a little bit. If you two didn't get along, that's human nature. I'm not calling you a bad guy because of it, just pointing out that it shades your thinking.
 
I am hearing rumblings of the first defection from CC to Cumulus.....if my sources are correct....it's a big one.

Anybody else hearing anything?
 
ScatzerFan said:
I am hearing rumblings of the first defection from CC to Cumulus.....if my sources are correct....it's a big one.

Anybody else hearing anything?

What? Bob & Tom are going to WWFT? Hey, that IS big! What's next, Country Stuck & Country Gunner afternoons on WFMS? :)
 
mouseman said:
Trapper,
How the hell are you? BOSL missed you this year ;)
All good down in the Big Easy...oops...forgot...people down here hate it when you call it that!
 
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